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\nAzad Xadiyev: Salam. M\u0259nim ad\u0131m Azad Xadiyev. M\u0259n Mail.ru Cloud Solutions-in PaaS y\u00f6n\u00fcnd\u0259 proqram\u00e7\u0131s\u0131yam. Burada c\u0259nab Pavel Selivanov Southbridge \u015firk\u0259tind\u0259n var. Biz DevOpsDays konfrans\u0131nday\u0131q. O burada Kubernetes il\u0259 DevOps-un nec\u0259 qurulmas\u0131 bar\u0259d\u0259 bir t\u0259qdimat ed\u0259c\u0259k, amma sizin \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn \u00e7ox g\u00fcman ki, he\u00e7 n\u0259 al\u0131nmayacaq. Niy\u0259 bel\u0259 m\u0259yus bir m\u00f6vzu?
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\nPavel Selivanov: \u018fslind\u0259, bu, m\u0259yus deyil. Bu, c\u0259miyy\u0259timizd\u0259 bir \u00e7ox m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259l\u0259ri texnologiyalarla h\u0259ll etm\u0259y\u0259 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fd\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 g\u00f6st\u0259rir. V\u0259 biz bu probleml\u0259ri texnologiyalarla bir t\u0259r\u0259fd\u0259n h\u0259ll etm\u0259y\u0259 \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131r\u0131q. Kubernetes d\u0259 el\u0259dir \u2014 bu, opslarla \u0259laq\u0259li olan bir \u015feydir. Amma bizd\u0259 m\u00fck\u0259mm\u0259l bir DevOps m\u00fch\u0259ndisi anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131 var. Kubernetes-\u0259 DevOps m\u00fch\u0259ndisi cavabdehdir. Eyni zamanda\u2026 Dey\u0259k ki, siz Kubernetes-i qurursunuz, amma inki\u015faf (Dev) komandas\u0131 bu Kubernetes-l\u0259rl\u0259 ba\u011fl\u0131 he\u00e7 bir \u015fey bilmir, onun n\u0259 ed\u0259 bil\u0259c\u0259yini bilmir \u2014 v\u0259 onlar \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn h\u0259r \u015fey h\u0259l\u0259 d\u0259 eyni \u015f\u0259kild\u0259 davam edir. V\u0259 bu, Kubernetes-in haz\u0131r h\u0259ll\u0259r, al\u0259tl\u0259r t\u0259qdim etm\u0259sin\u0259 baxmayaraq olur ki, bu texnologiya il\u0259 DevOps yana\u015fmas\u0131n\u0131, Dev v\u0259 Ops aras\u0131ndak\u0131 \u00fcnsiyy\u0259ti geni\u015fl\u0259ndirm\u0259k \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn imkanlar t\u0259qdim edir. Biz bu imkan\u0131 \u00e7ox az istifad\u0259 edirik. Bunun say\u0259sind\u0259, haz\u0131rk\u0131 strukturlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 bu DevOps al\u0259tl\u0259rin\u0259 \u2014 Docker, Kubernetes, buludlar v\u0259 s. \u2014 ke\u00e7irdikc\u0259, biz v\u0259ziyy\u0259ti daha da pisl\u0259\u015fdiririk. Al\u0259tl\u0259ri n\u0259z\u0259rd\u0259 tutuldu\u011fu kimi istifad\u0259 etm\u0259y\u0259 ba\u015flam\u0131r\u0131q. V\u0259 b\u00fct\u00fcn bu texnologiyalar\u0131n \u0259traf\u0131nda sad\u0259c\u0259 d\u0259h\u015f\u0259tli x\u0259st\u0259likl\u0259r inki\u015faf edir. <\/p>\n

Azad Xadiyev: Ayd\u0131nd\u0131r. M\u00f6vzunun geni\u015f oldu\u011fu hiss olunur. S\u0259nin fikrinc\u0259, indi \u015firk\u0259tl\u0259r aras\u0131nda \u0259n \u00e7ox yay\u0131lm\u0131\u015f problem n\u0259dir? Kubernetes il\u0259.<\/p>\n

Pavel Selivanov: Kubernetes il\u0259 m\u00fcbariz\u0259 aparan \u0259n geni\u015f yay\u0131lm\u0131\u015f problem \u2014 kompetensiyalar\u0131n olmamas\u0131d\u0131r. \u0130T-d\u0259 bu, adi bir problemdir. H\u0259mi\u015f\u0259 m\u00fct\u0259x\u0259ssisl\u0259r \u00e7at\u0131\u015fm\u0131r. H\u0259mi\u015f\u0259 kompetensiyalardan ehtiyac olur. \u0130ndi Kubernetes il\u0259 kompetensiyalar\u0131n \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 d\u00f6vrd\u0259yik. Bazar\u0131m\u0131zda bu probleml\u0259ri h\u0259ll ed\u0259c\u0259k tam haz\u0131r h\u0259ll\u0259r \u00e7ox azd\u0131r v\u0259 bunlar da b\u0259z\u0259n suallar yarad\u0131r. H\u0259mi\u015f\u0259 Kubernetes il\u0259 ba\u015fa d\u00fc\u015f\u0259n insanlar axtar\u0131\u015f\u0131nday\u0131q. Bu m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259l\u0259r\u0259 uy\u011fun inki\u015faf\u0131 c\u0259lb etm\u0259y\u0259 \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131r\u0131q. <\/p>\n

Azad Xadiyev: V\u0259 n\u0259z\u0259r\u0259 alaraq \u0130T-d\u0259ki cari kadr b\u00f6hran\u0131n\u0131. H\u0259mi\u015f\u0259 olub. \u0130ndid\u0259 var. S\u0259nin fikrinc\u0259, bu \u015f\u0259raitd\u0259 nec\u0259 ya\u015famal\u0131y\u0131q? H\u0259r hans\u0131 h\u0259yat t\u0259rzi ipuclar\u0131 varm\u0131? <\/p>\n

Pavel Selivanov: Life hacks. Firstly, from the perspective of clouds, the life hack looks like this: let\u2019s have you give us part of your competencies. We will take them ourselves and deal with them internally. And that\u2019s all good. Except for the fact that it\u2019s important to understand for those who use it\u2026 In fact, it\u2019s a wonderful moment\u2026 But it\u2019s important to understand that when you give part of your competencies to a cloud or a provider, you receive a standardized solution in return. Roughly speaking, we have a database that performs very specific tasks, and it was very specifically configured. By giving this database to the cloud, we can certainly lay off the admin who previously handled database clusters \u2014 the same Amazon or Google will do it for us. But at the same time, Amazon or Google won\u2019t allow us to configure our database precisely. Large projects, big companies \u2014 they inevitably come to the point where at some stage of their life, they use cloud solutions, and then they always end up taking their competencies back because more specificity is required.<\/p>\n

Azat Khadiyev: Are universal solutions bad, or can we build more on their basis? <\/p>\n

Pavel Selivanov: No, universal solutions are definitely not bad. Universal solutions are good. Just universal solutions\u2026 are universal. It\u2019s important to understand this. It\u2019s like taking a general script\u2026 If around this general script, general application you can build the entire logic of the company\u2019s operations \u2014 then that\u2019s cool. But if the logic of operations is different and you take this universal solution, universal script \u2014 and start stretching it like an owl on a globe, that\u2019s bad. In universalism itself, there\u2019s nothing wrong. <\/p>\n

Azat Khadiyev: If this admin is already working for you, the issue isn't his dismissal. He will simply be able to do more. <\/p>\n

Pavel Selivanov: Yes, taking the routine away from him and giving it to someone else to handle elsewhere. This is undoubtedly a good approach. The crucial point here is whether this standard solution fits the specific case. <\/p>\n

Azat Khadiyev: Just based on my experience, I see that many companies are doing the same thing. They set up a Kubernetes cluster and think about its scaling. And all these operations are highly repetitive. <\/p>\n

Pavel Selivanov: B\u0259li, \u015f\u00fcbh\u0259siz. H\u0259m d\u0259, \u0259g\u0259r biz konkret olaraq Kubernetes-i alsaq, burada d\u0259rin, yax\u015f\u0131 bilikl\u0259rin bu g\u00fcn bazarda h\u0259qiq\u0259t\u0259n az oldu\u011fu bir m\u0259qam var. Kubernetes o q\u0259d\u0259r b\u00f6y\u00fck bir konstruktordur ki, \u0259g\u0259r onu \u015firk\u0259tiniz\u0259 daxil ets\u0259niz, onunla birlikd\u0259 bunu tam zamanl\u0131 m\u0259\u015f\u011ful olacaq bir m\u00fch\u0259ndis d\u0259 g\u0259tirm\u0259y\u0259 haz\u0131r olun. V\u0259 bu, bahal\u0131d\u0131r. El\u0259 m\u00fch\u0259ndisi tapmaq da \u00e7\u0259tindir. \u00d6z\u00fcm haqq\u0131nda dan\u0131\u015fanda, bulud h\u0259ll\u0259rini \u00e7ox sevmir\u0259m, \u00e7\u00fcnki Kubernetes-in nec\u0259 i\u015fl\u0259diyini kifay\u0259t q\u0259d\u0259r yax\u015f\u0131 v\u0259 d\u0259rin anlay\u0131ram. V\u0259 buludlarda tez-tez ist\u0259diyim funksionall\u0131q \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn, m\u0259n\u0259 \u00abXeyr, m\u00fcmk\u00fcn deyil\u00bb deyirl\u0259r. Bel\u0259 olan halda, \u00fczr ist\u0259yir\u0259m, amma m\u0259n buluddan daha yax\u015f\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 ed\u0259 bil\u0259r\u0259m. Amma eyni zamanda \u0259g\u0259r sizd\u0259 tam zamanl\u0131 m\u00fch\u0259ndis yoxdursa, o m\u00fch\u0259ndis\u0259 pul verm\u0259k ist\u0259mirsinizs\u0259 ki, o Kubernetes-i idar\u0259 etsin v\u0259 ona yaln\u0131z eksperiment aparmas\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn \u00e7ox pul \u00f6d\u0259dirsinizs\u0259, bulud sad\u0259c\u0259 yax\u015f\u0131 bir h\u0259ll olur. \u00c7\u00fcnki orada \u0259n az\u0131 provayderin \u00f6z\u00fc \u00e7atan u\u015faqlar var. V\u0259 onlar etdikl\u0259ri i\u015fd\u0259 ba\u015fa d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcrl\u0259r. V\u0259 siz\u0259 g\u00fcnd\u0259lik olaraq laz\u0131m olan \u0259sas \u015feyl\u0259r orada var.<\/p>\n

Azat Khadiev: S\u0259nc\u0259, Kubernetes-in indiki v\u0259ziyy\u0259ti haqq\u0131nda n\u0259 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcrs\u0259n? Be\u015f il sonra v\u0259 on ild\u0259n sonra onunla n\u0259 olacaq?<\/p>\n

Pavel Selivanov: Good question. I just know what is happening in our community regarding this. Some people believe that nothing will remain except Kubernetes. The situation that happened a long time ago with Linux applies here. Outside of Linux, there are people who are living on BSD, likely with very specific tasks. There are people working on Windows \u2014 Windows servers \u2014 who probably also have specific tasks or just have competence in this area and are not ready to leave it. In any case, the standard in our field is Linux. There is an opinion that Kubernetes will become the same de facto standard, and nothing will exist besides Kubernetes. Kubernetes will manage not only applications, their deployment, and scaling, but everything overall. People are already asking: \"Can we put a database in Kubernetes?\" I usually respond that the question is not about Kubernetes, but about Docker. If you're willing for your database to run in containers, then how it will operate is another matter. I get responses like, \"No, no, no, wait. It shouldn't be in containers. It needs to be in Kubernetes. We will attach it to a node. So everything will be as it is now, but Kubernetes will manage all of it.\" And actually, that\u2019s a good idea. Kubernetes is something that allows someone to enter a company; if a company has Kubernetes and processes built on it, a person who understands it can just take a couple of days to say: \"I can fully support you. Completely. I understand how things work here.\" Unlike approaches without Kubernetes \u2014 they just added all sorts of hacks here, and more hacks there. Here\u2019s Ansible, here's Terraform. It\u2019s all been written by someone, and it can take half a year to understand. So, will Kubernetes become the de facto standard? I don\u2019t know. As of today, it looks much more ambitious and confident than the solutions around it. <\/p>\n

Azat Khadiev: Well, the comparison with Linux is quite bold. Linux operates on one machine \u2014 that\u2019s it. But Kubernetes works across many machines. Immediately, a million variations and reasons arise. Yes, it\u2019s bold. Just taking into account the fact that there are competitors to this paradigm, such as Serverless. Is Kubernetes at risk from such competitors? <\/p>\n

Pavel Selivanov: About Serverless\u2026 (laughs) Serverless \u2014 we still need to understand that server<\/a> it indeed exists. I recently heard a report on this matter. The speaker mentioned that servers do exist \u2014 and that\u2019s the cloud. However, we must always remember that in the cloud \u2014 there are servers as well. There are real physical servers set up, in racks, and they are installed somewhere. That\u2019s the cloud. On top of that, Serverless exists, where serverl\u0259ri \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn m\u00fck\u0259mm\u0259l se\u00e7im edir.<\/a> \u00abXeyr\u00bb. Bel\u0259likl\u0259, Serverless Kubernetes-i \u00fcst\u0259l\u0259y\u0259c\u0259kmi? D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr\u0259m ki, Serverless Kubernetes-\u0259 k\u00f6\u00e7\u0259c\u0259k. Serverless xidm\u0259tl\u0259ri t\u0259qdim ed\u0259n provayderl\u0259r \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn Kubernetes bunu t\u0259min etm\u0259k \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn \u00e7ox uy\u011fun bir platformad\u0131r. B\u0259li, b\u0259lk\u0259 d\u0259 bir vaxtdan sonra biz Kubernetes-d\u0259n bir biznes t\u0259tbiqi inki\u015faf\u0131 kimi dan\u0131\u015fma\u011f\u0131 dayand\u0131raca\u011f\u0131q. Ancaq d\u0259rinlikd\u0259, provayderl\u0259r v\u0259 m\u00fch\u0259ndisl\u0259r \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn Kubernetes h\u0259r \u015feyin h\u0259yata ke\u00e7irildiyi yer olacaq. <\/p>\n

Azat Xadiyev: Bir az f\u0259rqli bir m\u00f6vzudur. Fullstack m\u00fch\u0259ndislik dey\u0259 bir anlay\u0131\u015f var. Bu haqda n\u0259 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcrs\u0259n? Onlar h\u0259qiq\u0259t\u0259n m\u00f6vcuddurmu? <\/p>\n

Pavel Selivanov: Ehm\u2026 Fullstack m\u00fch\u0259ndis\u2026 D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr\u0259m ki, bunu ay\u0131rmaq laz\u0131md\u0131r\u2026 Bilirs\u0259n, T-shaped insanlar var. Bu c\u00fcr insanlara bu g\u00fcnki s\u0259nayed\u0259 ehtiyac varm\u0131? B\u0259li, \u0259lb\u0259tt\u0259 ki, var. Biz geni\u015f bilikl\u0259r\u0259 sahib olan insanlara ehtiyac duyuruq, lakin eyni zamanda m\u00fc\u0259yy\u0259n bir sah\u0259d\u0259 m\u00fct\u0259x\u0259ssis olmal\u0131d\u0131rlar. V\u0259 Fullstack m\u00fch\u0259ndis burada eynidir \u2014 h\u0259r \u015feyi ed\u0259 bil\u0259n insand\u0131r. Frontend inki\u015faf\u0131ndan, test etm\u0259d\u0259n, backend, serverl\u0259r v\u0259 dig\u0259r h\u0259r \u015fey\u0259 q\u0259d\u0259r. \u0130nanm\u0131ram ki, b\u00f6y\u00fck bir \u015firk\u0259td\u0259 bir insan\u0131n b\u00fct\u00fcn bu i\u015fl\u0259ri uzunsov spesifikasiyalar\u0131 olmadan h\u0259yata ke\u00e7irm\u0259si m\u00fcmk\u00fcnd\u00fcr. Ancaq sad\u0259c\u0259 olaraq m\u00fc\u0259yy\u0259n bir sah\u0259d\u0259 m\u00fct\u0259x\u0259ssis olmaq, amma ba\u015fqalar\u0131 bar\u0259d\u0259 he\u00e7 n\u0259 bilm\u0259k d\u0259 m\u00fcasir d\u00fcnyada i\u015fl\u0259mir. Y\u0259ni burada Fullstack s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc d\u0259 atard\u0131m. Biz\u0259 m\u00fch\u0259ndisl\u0259r laz\u0131md\u0131r. DevOps m\u00fch\u0259ndisl\u0259rin\u0259 ehtiyac var. D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr\u0259m ki, bu m\u0259qam\u0131 yax\u0131n zamanlarda yenid\u0259n n\u0259z\u0259rd\u0259n ke\u00e7ir\u0259c\u0259yik. V\u0259 onlar laz\u0131m olmayacaq. <\/p>\n

Azat Xadiyev: Bunu a\u00e7\u0131qlaya bil\u0259rs\u0259nmi? <\/p>\n

Pavel Selivanov: D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr\u0259m ki, s\u0259nayemizd\u0259 Dev v\u0259 Ops rollar\u0131n\u0131n tezlikl\u0259 l\u0259\u011fv olunaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6r\u0259c\u0259yik. \u018fg\u0259r m\u00fct\u0259x\u0259ssisl\u0259r\u0259 ehtiyac\u0131m\u0131z varsa v\u0259 axtar\u0131\u015fdad\u0131r\u0131q\u2026 Bel\u0259 bir inki\u015faf etdirici laz\u0131md\u0131r, bel\u0259 administratorlar laz\u0131md\u0131r, DevOps m\u00fch\u0259ndisl\u0259rin\u0259 ehtiyac var \u2014 indi onlar\u0131n yan\u0131m\u0131zda var, indi daha da prodak\u015fn m\u00fch\u0259ndisl\u0259ri, SRE m\u00fch\u0259ndisl\u0259ri yaranacaq. Lakin \u0259slind\u0259, bizim daha \u00e7ox ehtiyac duydu\u011fumuz m\u00fch\u0259ndisl\u0259rdir, onlar\u0131 i\u015f\u0259 g\u00f6t\u00fcrm\u0259k ist\u0259yirik. B\u00f6y\u00fck \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcd\u0259 ke\u00e7mi\u015f m\u00fch\u00fcm deyil. M\u0259s\u0259l\u0259n, SRE deyir ki, infrastruktur probleml\u0259ri h\u0259mi\u015f\u0259 proqram t\u0259minat\u0131 probleml\u0259ridir. B\u0259s\u2026 G\u0259lin, biz inki\u015faf etdirm\u0259 m\u00fch\u0259ndisl\u0259rini \u2014 m\u00fch\u0259ndis kimi \u2014 d\u0259st\u0259k b\u00f6lm\u0259sind\u0259 yerl\u0259\u015fdir\u0259k v\u0259 onlar bu probleml\u0259ri kod istifad\u0259 ed\u0259r\u0259k, m\u00fch\u0259ndislikl\u0259 eynil\u0259 i\u015f probleml\u0259rini h\u0259ll etdiyi \u015f\u0259kild\u0259 h\u0259ll etsinl\u0259r. <\/p>\n

Azat Xadiyev: Bu bax\u0131mdan\u2026 Bu c\u00fcr m\u00fch\u0259ndisl\u0259ri nec\u0259 m\u00fcsahib\u0259 etm\u0259k olar? <\/p>\n

Pavel Selivanov: Oh, that's a good question. It's probably beyond what I understand in this life. But I can provide an example. It doesn't relate to the interview. It's about our education system in Russia. In IT, we know that our education system in Russia is very outdated for the IT world; it\u2019s not what it should be. I\u2019m speaking generally about vast Russia \u2014 and what\u2019s happening there. Graduates are coming out who are absolutely unprepared to step into web development or a tech company right after graduation. And that\u2019s a problem. We teach them some strange things, even though we should be teaching them to develop for Android, iOS, how to use Git, and all those things. In reality, it seems like we don\u2019t. The university is a time when mostly your parents pay for you. For your whole life. And you can dedicate five years of your life to studying deeply. And exploring all this T-shaped knowledge. When you can study in university what a version control system is, what the different development patterns are, how to test everything, what database types exist, and load balancers. And once you start working, you begin to dive deeper into a specific area. This way, we end up with engineers. And our education system in Russia is much closer to this truth than it seems to us. We receive good mathematical training, solid algorithmic training, and some understanding of programming languages. And regarding the interviews, it seems to me that this is somewhat related. We need to interview engineers. We need the top part of the letter T from T-shaped. Because they will acquire the vertical line of the T. <\/p>\n

Azat Khadiev: Yes, interesting. For me, five years after university, my education seemed strange and inadequate. But as I worked on deeper projects and more complex tasks, I realized that no, I was taught very important things. Pavel, thank you. It was very interesting to hear your answers. Let's listen to your report. <\/p>\n

Pavel Selivanov: Thank you.
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