{"id":33998,"date":"2019-10-31T21:55:51","date_gmt":"2019-10-31T18:55:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/kak-my-delaem-internet-2-0-nezavisimyj-detsentralizovannyj-i-po-nastoyashhemu-suverennyj\/"},"modified":"2019-10-31T21:55:51","modified_gmt":"2019-10-31T18:55:51","slug":"kak-my-delaem-internet-2-0-nezavisimyj-detsentralizovannyj-i-po-nastoyashhemu-suverennyj","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/cs\/blog\/administrirovanie\/kak-my-delaem-internet-2-0-nezavisimyj-detsentralizovannyj-i-po-nastoyashhemu-suverennyj","title":{"rendered":"Jak d\u011bl\u00e1me \"Internet 2.0\" \u2013 nez\u00e1visl\u00fd, decentralizovan\u00fd a skute\u010dn\u011b suver\u00e9nn\u00ed","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"

Ahoj, komunit\u011b!<\/p>\n

Dne 18. kv\u011btna se v moskevsk\u00e9m parku Tsaritsyno konala sch\u016fzka syst\u00e9mov\u00fdch oper\u00e1tor\u016f bod\u016f s\u00edt\u011b \u201eMedium\u201c<\/a><\/noindex>.<\/p>\n

V tomto \u010dl\u00e1nku se nach\u00e1z\u00ed p\u0159epis z m\u00edsta ud\u00e1lost\u00ed: diskutovali jsme o dlouhodob\u00fdch pl\u00e1nech rozvoje s\u00edt\u011b \u201eMedium\u201c, nutnosti pou\u017eit\u00ed HTTPS pro eepsites p\u0159i vyu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed s\u00edt\u011b \u201eMedium\u201c, nasazen\u00ed soci\u00e1ln\u00ed s\u00edt\u011b uvnit\u0159 s\u00edt\u011b I2P a mnoho dal\u0161\u00edho.<\/p>\n

V\u0161ecko nejzaj\u00edmav\u011bj\u0161\u00ed je pod \u010dl\u00e1nkem.<\/p>\n

\"Jak
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1) To je longread.
\n2) To je otev\u0159en\u00e1 diskuse: m\u016f\u017eete se p\u0159ipojit k diskusi v koment\u00e1\u0159\u00edch k publikaci.
\n3) Jm\u00e9na \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edk\u016f byla zkr\u00e1cena pro zachov\u00e1n\u00ed d\u016fv\u011brnosti a \u010ditelnosti.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\nPodcast<\/noindex> \u2022 Tento \u010dl\u00e1nek na GitHubu<\/noindex> \u2022 Co je \u201eMedium\u201c?<\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Dnes chceme otev\u0159\u00edt d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1 t\u00e9mata t\u00fdkaj\u00edc\u00ed se organizace s\u00edt\u011b \u2014 dlouhodob\u00e9 pl\u00e1ny a podobn\u011b. Tak, u\u017e jsme \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u011b za\u010dali diskutovat a zastavili jsme se u probl\u00e9mu disident\u016f. N\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed byli znepokojeni negativn\u00edmi koment\u00e1\u0159i, \u017ee p\u0159ijdou \u0161patn\u00ed lid\u00e9 a v\u0161echny zatknou.<\/p>\n

Aby se do konference dostali n\u011bjac\u00ed provokat\u00e9\u0159i a za\u010dali provokovat, mus\u00edme n\u011bco nez\u00e1konn\u00e9ho d\u011blat \u2014 a my dokonce podle pr\u00e1vn\u00edch akt\u016f, kter\u00e9 existuj\u00ed, \u2014 my roz\u0161i\u0159ujeme Wi-Fi body, \u2014 za prv\u00e9, nejsme pr\u00e1vnick\u00e9 osoby, za druh\u00e9, internet v\u016fbec neposkytujeme \u2014 pouze I2P.<\/p>\n

Na programu m\u00e1me t\u00e9mata, kter\u00e1 byla otev\u0159ena: za prv\u00e9, Yggdrasil, kter\u00fd n\u00e1m ned\u00e1v\u00e1 sp\u00e1t ani ve dne, ani v noci, \u017ee?<\/p>\n

\u0160.:<\/b> Pr\u00e1vn\u00ed aspekt\u2026<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Pr\u00e1vn\u00ed aspekt \u2014 to je ur\u010dit\u011b pravda \u2014 nyn\u00ed se k n\u00e1m kolega p\u0159ipoj\u00ed, prodiskutujeme. D\u00e1le \u2014 cht\u011bli jsme tak\u00e9 probrat soci\u00e1ln\u00ed s\u00ed\u0165 \u2014 je nap\u016fl \u017eiv\u00e1, nap\u016fl mrtv\u00e1\u2026<\/p>\n

\u0160.:<\/b> M\u016f\u017eeme zprovoznit HumHub v Yggdrasilu?<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> V podstat\u011b ano. Ale pro\u010d ho zprovoz\u0148ovat \u2014 kdy\u017e m\u016f\u017eeme jednodu\u0161e poskytnout p\u0159\u00edstup?<\/p>\n

\u0160.:<\/b> Ano, to by nebylo \u0161patn\u00e9.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> To znamen\u00e1, \u017ee ot\u00e1zka transportu je pro n\u00e1s velmi nal\u00e9hav\u00e1 \u2014 I2P je pomal\u00fd a koncept s\u00edt\u011b na \u00farovni protokolu nep\u0159edpokl\u00e1d\u00e1, \u017ee bude velmi rychl\u00fd. To je norm\u00e1ln\u00ed. Z pohledu oby\u010dejn\u00e9ho u\u017eivatele je to samoz\u0159ejm\u011b \u0161patn\u00e9.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> V\u00edce ne\u017e ano. K ot\u00e1zce bod\u016f: \u0159ekn\u011bme, \u017ee uzly na ur\u010dit\u00fdch m\u00edstech lze um\u00edstit, kter\u00e9 neust\u00e1le funguj\u00ed \u2014 d\u011bl\u00e1te to tak?<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> No, v podstat\u011b ano: medium p\u0159edstavuje decentralizovan\u00e9ho poskytovatele, kde ka\u017ed\u00fd oper\u00e1tor se sv\u00fdmi body je sv\u00fdm ISP, tedy poskytovatelem.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> S\u00e1m sob\u011b poskytovatel.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Ano: sami sob\u011b poskytovatel. Tedy nez\u00e1visl\u00fd, decentralizovan\u00fd a suver\u00e9nn\u00ed.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> A co s t\u011bmi, kdo nebudou neust\u00e1le online \u2014 budou se p\u0159ipojovat a odpojovat? Tak jako tak, nejbli\u017e\u0161\u00ed uzly budou p\u0159ipojen\u00e9 a existuje n\u011bco, \u010demu se \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 ve\u0159ejn\u00fd peer.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Ne, jde o to, \u017ee takov\u00e9 uzly ozna\u010dujeme jako semi-available a na tom nen\u00ed nic hrozn\u00e9ho, ve skute\u010dnosti: jednodu\u0161e m\u00edsto zelen\u00e9 bude \u017elut\u00e1.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> Ne, no, co se rychlosti t\u00fd\u010de \u2014 ne v\u0161ichni se budou o neust\u00e1l\u00e9 p\u0159ipojen\u00ed tolik starat.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Vlastn\u011b ano. Ale tento p\u0159\u00edstup je problematick\u00fd v tom, \u017ee nelze zaru\u010dit autenticitu v\u0161ech bod\u016f, \u017ee budou jednat stejn\u011b. N\u011bkdo m\u016f\u017ee jednat podle vlastn\u00edch pravidel.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> To je specifikace vybaven\u00ed\u2026<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> To je specifikace jak\u00fdchkoli decentralizovan\u00fdch s\u00edt\u00ed. V principu. Nen\u00ed to ani tak o vybaven\u00ed, ale o oper\u00e1torech \u2014 pokud se mu n\u011bco nel\u00edb\u00ed, m\u016f\u017ee to zablokovat.<\/p>\n

Z na\u0161\u00ed strany z\u00e1vis\u00ed na autenti\u010dnosti t\u011bchto bod\u016f, tedy \u017ee jsou v\u0161echny nakonfigurov\u00e1ny stejn\u011b, bezpe\u010dnost u\u017eivatel\u016f. Ne v\u0161ichni jsou takov\u00ed g\u00e9niov\u00e9-hackerov\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed rozum\u00ed, pro\u010d nelze nap\u0159\u00edklad v s\u00edti I2P zad\u00e1vat hesla bez HTTPS, kdy\u017e se p\u0159ipojujete p\u0159es 'Medium'; tedy, z pohledu v\u00fdchoz\u00edho nastaven\u00ed je to jakoby bezpe\u010dn\u00e9, ale pokud se pohybujete p\u0159es 'Medium', tak...<\/p>\n

\u0160.:<\/b> Uvid\u00edme va\u0161e hesla!<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Ano. Mus\u00edme pou\u017e\u00edvat takov\u00e1 opat\u0159en\u00ed.<\/p>\n

\u0160.:<\/b> Proto, z ohledu na bezpe\u010dnost, pros\u00edm, vytv\u00e1\u0159ejte dlouh\u00e1, nesrozumiteln\u00e1 hesla!<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> A, ne, probl\u00e9m je v tom, \u017ee to nezachr\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159ed panem majorem \u2014 m\u00e1m na mysli, \u017ee pova\u017eujeme ka\u017edou 'Medium' stanici za v\u00fdchoz\u00ed kompromitovanou a za n\u00ed sed\u00ed pan major.<\/p>\n

Nelze se p\u0159ipojovat do s\u00edt\u011b I2P bez HTTPS, proto\u017ee v\u0161echna data, kter\u00e1 se nach\u00e1zej\u00ed mezi spojovac\u00edm uzlem, tedy routerem, a u\u017eivatelem, u\u017e jsou p\u0159ed\u00e1v\u00e1na v de\u0161ifrovan\u00e9 podob\u011b, co\u017e je nebezpe\u010dn\u00e9. Z t\u00e9to perspektivy je t\u0159eba jak\u00e9koli takov\u00e9 pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed zastavit.<\/p>\n

M. S.<\/b> Je\u0161t\u011b co se t\u00fd\u010de bod\u016f, kter\u00e9 nemus\u00ed b\u00fdt p\u0159\u00edmo u v\u00e1s doma nebo na chat\u011b; body, kter\u00e9 by mohly b\u00fdt p\u0159ipojeny k ur\u010dit\u00e9mu zdroji energie a um\u00edst\u011bny v n\u011bjak\u00e9 parkov\u00e9 oblasti, proto\u017ee v tuto chv\u00edli pot\u0159ebujeme n\u011bjak\u00e9 pokryt\u00ed...<\/p>\n

\u0160.:<\/b> Dobrovoln\u011b-nucen\u011b umis\u0165ovat u zn\u00e1m\u00fdch a p\u0159\u00edbuzn\u00fdch.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> Vytvo\u0159ili jste si v\u016fbec n\u011bjak\u00fd p\u0159ehledn\u00fd pl\u00e1n na pap\u00ed\u0159e, jak to vypad\u00e1? Nebo se zat\u00edm v\u0161e jen tak prob\u00edralo?<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Ve skute\u010dnosti jsme o tom ani neuva\u017eovali, tak\u017ee bychom vzali pap\u00edr a kreslili. Co bychom kreslili? V\u0161echno je u n\u00e1s tak prost\u00e9 a jasn\u00e9.<\/p>\n

\nM. P.:<\/b> No, je spr\u00e1vn\u00e9 p\u0159irovnat 'Medium' k benign\u00edmu rakovinn\u00e9mu n\u00e1doru, tedy dokud je ho m\u00e1lo, nen\u00ed vid\u011bt a nikomu to nevad\u00ed. Kdy\u017e je ho moc \u2014 co se s t\u00edm d\u00e1 ud\u011blat?<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> Pokud jde o obavy ohledn\u011b kontroly komunikace, v\u0161ichni v\u00edme, \u017ee jsou lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed cht\u011bj\u00ed kontrolovat naprosto v\u0161echno.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Vznik\u00e1 tady jak\u00fdsi disonance: v centralizovan\u00e9m st\u00e1t\u011b \u2014 decentralizovan\u00e9 s\u00edt\u011b.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> A to se t\u00fdk\u00e1 toho, \u017ee internet byl zpo\u010d\u00e1tku podporov\u00e1n soukrom\u00fdmi osobami, proto tady nem\u00e1me to, co maj\u00ed v \u010c\u00edn\u011b.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> No, nen\u00ed dobr\u00e9 srovn\u00e1vat to s \u010c\u00ednou z jednoho d\u016fvodu: procento lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed tam um\u00ed anglicky, je velmi mal\u00e9. Pro\u010d by pot\u0159ebovali jin\u00fd internet? Oni se k tomu v\u016fbec nevyjad\u0159uj\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Mluvil jsem s jedn\u00edm \u010d\u00ed\u0148anem, v\u0161echno prob\u00edh\u00e1 v klidu.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> Ne, je t\u0159eba pochopit, na jak\u00fdch m\u00edstech jsou lid\u00e9 ochotni...<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> N\u011bjak zjistit hranice t\u011bch nejasn\u00fdch okam\u017eik\u016f\u2026<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> Um\u00edstit te\u010dku vedle FSB \u2014 to je p\u0159\u00edm\u00e1 provokace, ned\u011blejte to.<\/p>\n

Pokud, zjednodu\u0161en\u011b \u0159e\u010deno, um\u00edst\u00edte router n\u011bkde na poli, kter\u00fd bude n\u011bco poskytovat \u2014 no a co.<\/p>\n

Nen\u00ed t\u0159eba d\u011blat provokaci. To je v\u0161e.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Pokud jde o provokaci, souhlas\u00edm pln\u011b.<\/p>\n

\u0160.:<\/b> Te\u010f se takov\u00fdch v\u011bc\u00ed objevilo hodn\u011b.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Tak\u017ee na\u0161e pozice spo\u010d\u00edv\u00e1 v zachov\u00e1n\u00ed neutrality, klidu\u2026 A nep\u0159ekra\u010dovat hranice, tak\u017ee tak.<\/p>\n

Nebudeme organizovat n\u011bjakou neziskovku \u2014 v\u0161echno je to zalo\u017eeno na dobrovolnosti. V podstat\u011b je 'Medium' jen n\u00e1zev bodu. SSID. Nic nen\u00ed monetizov\u00e1no.<\/p>\n

Pokud st\u00e1t za\u010dne terorizovat u\u017eivatele \u2014 to u\u017e je ot\u00e1zka pro \u00fa\u0159ady, ne pro u\u017eivatele.<\/p>\n

\u0160.:<\/b> M\u00e1me p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 velkou paranoiu ohledn\u011b toho, \u017ee by \u00fa\u0159ady mohly projevit z\u00e1jem.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> Stahujeme st\u00e1le torrenty, sledujeme pir\u00e1tsk\u00e9 filmy, seri\u00e1ly \u2014 na tom nesejde. Nestresujeme se. Ale jakmile kdokoliv uva\u017euje o decentralizovan\u00e9 soci\u00e1ln\u00ed s\u00edti \u2014 najednou se n\u011bkde za\u010dne mluvit o n\u00e1hl\u00e9m nebezpe\u010d\u00ed.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Rizika jsou p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 p\u0159ehnan\u00e1.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> Proto\u017ee nev\u00edm, jak moc m\u00e1 v\u016fbec smysl se t\u00edm tr\u00e1pit... Nikdo se nebude hn\u00e1t do akce, aby se dostal k n\u011bjak\u00e9mu nad\u0161enci, kter\u00fd si prost\u011b pro z\u00e1bavu n\u011bco d\u011bl\u00e1.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Pokud nebudeme uv\u00e1d\u011bt \u010d\u00edslo bytu \u2014 tak ur\u010dit\u011b!<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> Ne, a pro\u010d? Ot\u00e1zka \u2014 pro\u010d?<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> A nebudeme.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> Na 'VKontakte' v sou\u010dasnosti existuje obrovsk\u00e9 mno\u017estv\u00ed dost radik\u00e1ln\u00edch skupin. Ot\u00e1zka: kolik jich se ka\u017ed\u00fd den uzav\u00edr\u00e1?<\/p>\n

\u0160.:<\/b> V\u0161echna ta aktu\u00e1ln\u00ed t\u00e9mata \u2014 pohonn\u00e1 hmota pro paranoidn\u00ed my\u0161len\u00ed \u2014 trest\u00e1n\u00ed za reposty \u2014 se d\u011bj\u00ed na z\u00e1klad\u011b ud\u00e1n\u00ed.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> A d\u011blaj\u00ed se dokonce ne v\u00fdb\u011brov\u011b \u2014 prost\u011b n\u00e1hodn\u011b: hop! A hotovo: aby splnili pl\u00e1n.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> Kdo by m\u011bl b\u00fdt zapojen v decentralizovan\u00e9m mal\u00e9m projektu, aby p\u0159it\u00e1hl lidi, kte\u0159\u00ed jsou velmi konzervativn\u00ed ve sv\u00e9m my\u0161len\u00ed? Mo\u017en\u00e1 to n\u011bkoho specialistu zaujme, ale kolik takov\u00fdch projekt\u016f je\u0161t\u011b existuje?<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b, vezm\u011bte t\u0159eba Yggdrasil, Hyperboria\u2026<\/p>\n

\u0160.:<\/b> U n\u00e1s Linux po\u0159\u00e1dn\u011b ani neinstaluj\u00ed.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> A je\u0161t\u011b jednou: odm\u011bna za dopaden\u00ed takov\u00fdch dost zbyte\u010dn\u00fdch lid\u00ed pro jejich pr\u00e1ci \u2014 \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e1. To znamen\u00e1, co z toho z\u00edskaj\u00ed?<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> No, a pokud bychom vzali p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh s Bohatovem, matematikem?<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> P\u0159\u00edb\u011bh s Bohatovem je p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhem, kdy kolega, \u0159ekn\u011bme, ano: postavil uzel, p\u0159es kter\u00fd n\u011bkdo n\u011bkomu hrozil...<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> No, zde je v\u0161echno jasn\u00e9 \u2014 bral na sebe v\u0161echna tato rizika...<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> Ano. Za prv\u00e9, bral na sebe rizika, a za druh\u00e9, omluvte m\u011b, tam skute\u010dn\u011b bylo n\u011bco resonantn\u00edho. Je\u0161t\u011b jednou: kdo zde a nyn\u00ed bude n\u011bco d\u011blat p\u0159es tuto s\u00ed\u0165?<\/p>\n

Nyn\u00ed do n\u00ed budou p\u0159ich\u00e1zet pouze ti, kdo maj\u00ed z\u00e1jem o tento projekt jako takov\u00fd: ne proto, aby n\u011bco realizovali nebo se domlouvali na dod\u00e1vk\u00e1ch drog, nebo n\u011bkoho zab\u00edjeli...<\/p>\n

Podstatou je, \u017ee pokud to n\u011bkdy n\u011bkomu bude d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9, stane se to tehdy, a\u017e se nahromad\u00ed kritick\u00e1 masa. A nen\u00ed jist\u00e9, \u017ee se nahromad\u00ed.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> I kdyby to bylo politik\u016fm zaj\u00edmav\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed, bu\u010fme up\u0159\u00edmn\u00ed, p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 nerozum\u00ed princip\u016fm fungov\u00e1n\u00ed glob\u00e1ln\u00ed s\u00edt\u011b...<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> No, a to u\u017e je \u00fapln\u011b jin\u00e1 t\u00e9ma\u2026 Co jsou to \u0161ifrovac\u00ed kl\u00ed\u010de? \u0160ifrovac\u00ed kl\u00ed\u010de jsou p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm d\u016fv\u011bra. Je to \u00farove\u0148 lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed se vyjad\u0159uj\u00ed na t\u00e9ma \u0161ifrovac\u00edch kl\u00ed\u010d\u016f. P\u0159ijdou k \u010dlov\u011bku, kter\u00fd n\u011bco \u0159\u00edkal z tribuny o tom, \u017ee jsou pot\u0159eba \u0161ifrovac\u00ed kl\u00ed\u010de \u2014 jako odborn\u00edk \u2014 p\u0159ijdou k n\u011bmu, ptaj\u00ed se: co jsou to \u0161ifrovac\u00ed kl\u00ed\u010de? Odpov\u00edd\u00e1, \u017ee by se m\u011bli pt\u00e1t odborn\u00edk\u016f, i kdy\u017e on s\u00e1m tam je odborn\u00edk.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> To znamen\u00e1, \u017ee pro n\u011b je nejd\u016fle\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00ed, aby c\u00edl ospravedl\u0148oval prost\u0159edky. Ale tady se daj\u00ed uv\u00e9st mnoh\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edklady: n\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed ani nedok\u00e1\u017eou odpov\u011bd\u011bt na ot\u00e1zku, co je to IP \u2014 Internetov\u00fd protokol.<\/p>\n

\nM. P.:<\/b> Te\u010f navrhuji diskutovat transport. M\u011bli jsme I2P a m\u00e1me Yggdrasil. Je tu mo\u017enost m\u00edsto I2P nasadit Yggdrasil.<\/p>\n

\u0160.:<\/b> Dobr\u00e1 varianta.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Pot\u0159ebujeme koment\u00e1\u0159e. Pro\u010d? Mus\u00ed b\u00fdt n\u011bjak\u00fd v\u00e1\u017en\u00fd argument.<\/p>\n

\u0160.:<\/b> Yggdrasil bude rychlej\u0161\u00ed.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> A jen kv\u016fli tomu? Zato je mnohem snaz\u0161\u00ed identifikovat \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edky. \u0160ifrov\u00e1n\u00ed tam samoz\u0159ejm\u011b existuje, hned z krabice \u2014 to je samoz\u0159ejm\u011b dobr\u00e9, ale ne jako v I2P.<\/p>\n

I2P m\u00e1 jednu nev\u00fdhodu: je pomal\u00fd. Ale! V ka\u017ed\u00e9 knize o kryptografii, kterou otev\u0159ete, v\u00e1m na prvn\u00edch str\u00e1nk\u00e1ch budou \u0159\u00edkat \u2014 vyb\u00edrejte: bu\u010f rychle, nebo bezpe\u010dn\u011b. Z t\u00e9to perspektivy I2P vynik\u00e1, a\u010dkoli jsou tu n\u00e1zory lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed: \u201eNe, my to pou\u017e\u00edvat nebudeme, tam nen\u00ed nic.\u201c No, jak to, \u017ee nen\u00ed? Tady, jsme nasadili HumHub.<\/p>\n

To znamen\u00e1, \u017ee tady op\u011bt mus\u00edme vyb\u00edrat: co preferujeme \u2014 Yggdrasil je dobr\u00fd, kdy\u017e je hodn\u011b bod\u016f a provoz neprob\u00edh\u00e1 p\u0159es internet \u2014 ale mezi samotn\u00fdmi body.<\/p>\n

\nM. P.:<\/b> Hlavn\u00ed pot\u00ed\u017e m\u00e1me \u2014 je to bu\u010f rychlost, nebo bezpe\u010dnost. Co chceme? Tady je probl\u00e9m, ch\u00e1pete: spojen\u00ed mezi u\u017eivatelem \"Medium\" a bodem I2P \u2014 nen\u00ed bezpe\u010dn\u00e9. To znamen\u00e1, \u017ee pot\u0159ebujeme, aby zdroje, kter\u00e9 poskytujeme, ji\u017e byly s HTTPS \u2014 tedy transportn\u00ed \u00farove\u0148 bezpe\u010dnosti. Proto\u017ee provoz se de\u0161ifruje na routeru I2P u oper\u00e1tora a p\u0159en\u00e1\u0161\u00ed se po nezabezpe\u010den\u00e9m kan\u00e1lu k n\u00e1m.<\/p>\n

Ot\u00e1zka je, jak ochr\u00e1nit potenci\u00e1ln\u00ed u\u017eivatele: nejjednodu\u0161\u0161\u00ed radik\u00e1ln\u00ed \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed \u2014 nasadit park zdroj\u016f \u2014 f\u00f3rum, imgboard, soci\u00e1ln\u00ed s\u00ed\u0165 a propojit je v\u0161echny na HTTPS.<\/p>\n

\u0160.:<\/b> M\u016f\u017eeme v\u016fbec p\u0159ipojit n\u011bjak\u00e9ho messengeru.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> A samoz\u0159ejm\u011b, u\u017e m\u016f\u017eeme p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161let o messengeru, kter\u00fd by fungoval v overlay re\u017eimu nad I2P.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> V ka\u017ed\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b, pokud se v\u016fbec bav\u00edme o messengeru \u2013 v\u011bt\u0161inou jde o text... Co se rychlosti t\u00fd\u010de \u2013 to je v po\u0159\u00e1dku.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> M\u00e1m ot\u00e1zku \u2013 chci ji vyn\u00e9st na diskusi \u2013 je mo\u017en\u00e9 na jednom bod\u011b \"Medium\" spou\u0161t\u011bt nejen transparentn\u00ed webov\u00fd proxy pro webov\u00e9 slu\u017eby, ale tak\u00e9 n\u011bjakou slu\u017ebu pro v\u00fdm\u011bnu soubor\u016f, n\u011bco v tom duchu.<\/p>\n

Zjednodu\u0161uji, abych to p\u0159ibl\u00ed\u017eil. Aby ur\u010dit\u00e9 porty byly trigerov\u00e1ny pro v\u00fdm\u011bnu soubor\u016f, n\u011bkter\u00e9 \u2013 pro webov\u00fd proxy. A chat nebo n\u011bjak\u00fd messenger. Trigrovat ur\u010dit\u00e9 porty pro messenger a v\u0161echno bude v po\u0159\u00e1dku.<\/p>\n

\nM. P.:<\/b> Mus\u00edme prodiskutovat pravidla chov\u00e1n\u00ed na s\u00edti. Digit\u00e1ln\u00ed hygiena. Sezn\u00e1mit b\u011b\u017en\u00e9 lidi s t\u00edm, pro\u010d nap\u0159\u00edklad p\u0159es \"Medium\" nelze pos\u00edlat sv\u00e9 hesla, kdy\u017e se p\u0159ihla\u0161uj\u00ed na str\u00e1nky bez HTTPS.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> Jde o to, \u017ee lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed nech\u00e1pou, \u017ee nelze pos\u00edlat hesla p\u0159es nap\u0159\u00edklad VK, \u2013 nelze je p\u0159ed\u00e1vat p\u0159es chat a podobn\u011b\u2026<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Ne, vlastn\u011b jsem mluvil o n\u011b\u010dem jin\u00e9m: m\u00e1m na mysli, \u017ee nejde o to, aby n\u011bkomu p\u0159ed\u00e1vali hesla, v\u016fbec ne: mluv\u00edm o n\u011b\u010dem jin\u00e9m. V \"Medium\" je situace vyj\u00e1d\u0159ena trochu jinak: je to p\u0159esn\u011b ta sam\u00e1 p\u0159\u00ed\u010dina, pro\u010d nelze na Toru, zjednodu\u0161en\u011b \u0159e\u010deno, zad\u00e1vat sv\u00e9 heslo na nezabezpe\u010den\u00fdch str\u00e1nk\u00e1ch.<\/p>\n

Obvykle u\u017eivatel\u00e9 netu\u0161\u00ed, \u017ee pokud sed\u00edte p\u0159es sv\u016fj I2P router, ani\u017e byste se p\u0159ipojili k \"Medium\", \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd probl\u00e9m nen\u00ed \u2013 v\u00e1\u0161 provoz je za\u0161ifrovan\u00fd, nemus\u00edte m\u00edt strach o sv\u00e1 data. Ale kdy\u017e pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1te \"Medium\", nejprve byste m\u011bli p\u0159edpokl\u00e1dat, \u017ee tento bod je ji\u017e kompromitov\u00e1n n\u011bjak\u00fdm d\u016fstojn\u00edkem. Ten sed\u00ed a poslouch\u00e1 v\u0161e, co mu \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te.<\/p>\n

Kdy\u017e zad\u00e1te heslo, co se stane: po nezabezpe\u010den\u00e9m kan\u00e1lu se va\u0161e heslo p\u0159en\u00e1\u0161\u00ed k routeru d\u016fstojn\u00edka, a a\u017e pot\u00e9 vstupuje do s\u00edt\u011b I2P. D\u016fstojn\u00edk to m\u016f\u017ee poslouchat. V\u0161echny ostatn\u00ed uzly \u2013 tranzitn\u00ed uzly \u2013 ne. To je ten probl\u00e9m.<\/p>\n

Mohu to jednodu\u0161e vysv\u011btlit na velmi jednoduch\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edkladu, velmi p\u0159\u00edstupn\u011b, jak funguje asymetrick\u00e1 kryptografie a pro\u010d je \"Medium\" jako transport v\u00edce ne\u017e vhodn\u00e9.<\/p>\n

P\u0159edstavte si, \u017ee m\u00e1me jednoho \u010dlov\u011bka z Moskvy a jednoho \u010dlov\u011bka z Austr\u00e1lie. Jednomu z nich je pot\u0159eba poslat z\u00e1silku s milionem dolar\u016f do Austr\u00e1lie. Nechce to d\u011blat p\u0159es Sberbank, proto\u017ee poplatky budou vysok\u00e9.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> Proto\u017ee to poslal kur\u00fdrem.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> Ano: proto pos\u00edl\u00e1 kufr rovnou s pen\u011bzi kur\u00fdrem. J\u00e1 vezmu a p\u0159ipevn\u00edm z\u00e1mek na kufr. Domluv\u00edme se, \u017ee z\u00e1mek nebudeme moci otev\u0159\u00edt.<\/p>\n

P\u0159ed\u00e1v\u00e1me kufr kur\u00fdrovi. Kur\u00fdr p\u0159en\u00e1\u0161\u00ed kufr na\u0161emu kamar\u00e1dovi z Austr\u00e1lie. Kamar\u00e1d z Austr\u00e1lie je zmaten\u00fd: \u201eJak otev\u0159u kufr? Nem\u00e1m kl\u00ed\u010d!\u201c<\/p>\n

\u017d\u00e1d\u00e1m ho, aby na kufr p\u0159ipevnil sv\u016fj z\u00e1mek a poslal mi ho zp\u011bt. Kur\u00fdr je zmaten\u00fd, ale kufr vrac\u00ed zp\u011bt. Sund\u00e1m sv\u016fj z\u00e1mek. Na kufru z\u016fst\u00e1v\u00e1 z\u00e1mek kamar\u00e1da. Pos\u00edl\u00e1m kufr do Austr\u00e1lie. Kamar\u00e1d sund\u00e1 sv\u016fj z\u00e1mek.<\/p>\n

Zru\u010dnost rukou a \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 podvody.<\/p>\n

M. S.:<\/b> No, obecn\u011b nastaven\u00ed toho, jak moc se uzamyk\u00e1me p\u0159ed ostatn\u00edmi z\u00e1mky, by m\u011blo b\u00fdt vyv\u00e1\u017een\u00e9. Nem\u011blo by b\u00fdt slo\u017eit\u00e9.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> M\u00edt n\u011bjak\u00e9 jasn\u00e9 hranice.<\/p>\n

\nM. S.:<\/b> Nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed d\u00edra v bezpe\u010dnosti v\u017edy sed\u00ed p\u0159ed monitorem, za kl\u00e1vesnic\u00ed... Dokud se nezv\u00fd\u0161\u00ed \u00farove\u0148 kluk\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed sed\u00ed za po\u010d\u00edta\u010dem, nebudeme m\u00edt mo\u017enost pln\u011b zabezpe\u010dit pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed t\u00e9to s\u00edt\u011b.<\/p>\n

M. P.:<\/b> V podstat\u011b pot\u0159ebujeme postupn\u011b zvy\u0161ovat po\u010det web\u016f v I2P, kter\u00e9 podporuj\u00ed HTTPS. Jsem pro to, aby HTTPS v I2P byl pr\u00e1v\u011b pro zaji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed \u00farovn\u011b bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed ochrany.<\/p>\n

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