{"id":39218,"date":"2019-10-31T22:28:31","date_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:28:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/strah-bol-i-nenavist-tehnicheskoj-podderzhki\/"},"modified":"2019-10-31T22:28:31","modified_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:28:31","slug":"strah-bol-i-nenavist-tehnicheskoj-podderzhki","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/cs\/blog\/administrirovanie\/strah-bol-i-nenavist-tehnicheskoj-podderzhki","title":{"rendered":"Strach, bolest a nen\u00e1vist technick\u00e9 podpory","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Strach, bolest a nen\u00e1vist technick\u00e9 podpory\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/8a4fb8a5960601b52a41b768ca845319.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/>Habr nen\u00ed st\u00ed\u017enostn\u00ed kniha. Tento \u010dl\u00e1nek je o bezplatn\u00fdch n\u00e1stroj\u00edch spole\u010dnosti Nirsoft pro syst\u00e9mov\u00e9ho administr\u00e1tora Windows.<\/p>\n<p>Kdy\u017e se obracej\u00ed na technickou podporu, mnoz\u00ed lid\u00e9 za\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed stres. N\u011bkdo m\u00e1 strach, \u017ee nebude schopen vysv\u011btlit probl\u00e9m a vypad\u00e1 hloup\u011b. Jin\u00ed jsou pln\u00ed emoc\u00ed a obt\u00ed\u017en\u011b ovl\u00e1daj\u00ed hn\u011bv kv\u016fli kvalit\u011b slu\u017eby \u2014 v\u017edy\u0165 d\u0159\u00edve nebylo \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fdch v\u00fdpadk\u016f!<br \/>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"habracut\"><\/a><\/noindex><br \/>\nMn\u011b se nap\u0159\u00edklad l\u00edb\u00ed technick\u00e1 podpora Veeam. Odpov\u00eddaj\u00ed sice pomalu, ale p\u0159esn\u011b a v\u011bcn\u011b. Dokonce jsem r\u00e1d, \u017ee tam nap\u00ed\u0161u kv\u016fli banalit\u011b, abych se nau\u010dil n\u011bjak\u00fd nov\u00fd trik.<\/p>\n<p>Docela dobr\u00e1 technick\u00e1 podpora je u DeviceLock. Zku\u0161enosti jejich veter\u00e1n\u016f si zaslou\u017e\u00ed respekt. Po t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 ka\u017ed\u00e9m kontaktu p\u0159id\u00e1v\u00e1m n\u011bkolik \u0159\u00e1dk\u016f \u201eTajn\u00e9ho Znalosti\u201c do firemn\u00ed Wiki. B\u011bhem toho rychle sb\u00edraj\u00ed testovac\u00ed verze produktu s opraven\u00fdm bugem \u2014 podpora a v\u00fdroba jsou \u00fazce propojeny.<\/p>\n<p>ArcServe nen\u00ed moc dobr\u00e9. Obyvatel\u00e9 pob\u0159e\u017e\u00ed Indick\u00e9ho oce\u00e1nu jsou velmi, velmi zdvo\u0159il\u00ed a pozorn\u00ed, ale nic dal\u0161\u00edho dobr\u00e9ho \u0159\u00edct nemohu. Pokud neexistuje p\u0159ipraven\u00e1 KB, v\u00e1\u0161 \u017eivot bude smutn\u00fd.<\/p>\n<p>Jedine\u010dnou pozici m\u00e1 technick\u00e1 podpora na\u0161eho antivirov\u00e9ho l\u00eddra \u2014 Laborato\u0159e Kaspersky. Jak se lid\u00e9 vyh\u00fdbaj\u00ed n\u00e1v\u0161t\u011bv\u011b zuba\u0159e, tak se i j\u00e1 sna\u017e\u00edm vyhnout psan\u00ed tam co nejd\u00e9le. Proto\u017ee to bude trvat dlouho, bolet a v\u00fdsledek bude nep\u0159edv\u00eddateln\u00fd. L\u00e9ka\u0159e si nem\u016f\u017eete vybrat, i kdy\u017e m\u00e1te 5000 rubl\u016f licenc\u00ed \u2014 l\u00e9\u010d\u00ed, kdo se naskytne. A j\u00e1 p\u0159itom jsem docela doktor (no, ne doktor, tak \u0159emesln\u00edk), c\u00edt\u00edm se dvakr\u00e1t zklaman\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>K v\u011bci.<\/p>\n<p>Aktualizujeme Kaspersky Security for Windows Server z verze 10.1.1 na 10.1.2. Operace je jednoduch\u00e1, ale my to v\u00edme. Na dal\u0161\u00ed Patch Tuesday od Microsoftu jsem si v\u0161iml, \u017ee aktualizace se neinstalovaly na velkou skupinu server\u016f.<\/p>\n<p>Zjistilo se, \u017ee na serverech p\u0159estaly fungovat slu\u017eby wuauserv a BITS, a p\u0159i spu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed se vrac\u00ed chyba:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Strach, bolest a nen\u00e1vist technick\u00e9 podpory\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/cbde9f245ebffc20e619bad7ea2ee53e.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nOpravil jsem spu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed lidov\u00fdmi prost\u0159edky<\/p>\n<pre><code class=\"plaintext\">sc config wuauserv type= own\nsc config bits type= own\n<\/code><\/pre>\n<p>\nZjistil jsem, \u017ee mezi servery je n\u011bco spole\u010dn\u00e9ho \u2014 na 100 % pacient\u016f byl ned\u00e1vno instalov\u00e1n KSWS 10.1.2.<\/p>\n<p>Zan\u00edtilo to v\u00e1\u017en\u011b, otev\u0159el jsem po\u017eadavek.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Dobr\u00fd den! <br \/>\nPo upgradu z 10.1.1 na 10.1.2.996 na \u0159ad\u011b server\u016f p\u0159estaly fungovat slu\u017eby BITS a Windows Update.<br \/>\nP\u0159i spu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed se vrac\u00ed chyba: 1290<br \/>\nSouvis\u00ed vznik chyby s instalac\u00ed produktu? <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> Odpov\u011b\u010f nenechala na sebe dlouho \u010dekat.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Dobr\u00fd den, Michale!<br \/>\nKaspersky Security 10 pro Windows Server p\u0159i instalaci nebo aktualizaci verze nezohled\u0148uje st\u00e1vaj\u00edc\u00ed slu\u017eby a tak\u00e9 neprov\u00e1d\u00ed kontrolu\/zm\u011bnu jejich nastaven\u00ed. \n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u0158ekli \u2013 jako kdy\u017e u\u0159\u00edzne\u0161.<\/p>\n<p>Rychl\u00e9 googlen\u00ed uk\u00e1zalo, \u017ee probl\u00e9m existuje, minim\u00e1ln\u011b existoval <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/forum.kaspersky.com\/index.php?\/topic\/404287-%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8-ksws\/&amp;do=findComment&amp;comment=2863082\">v jin\u00e9 verzi<\/a><\/noindex>.<\/p>\n<p>Napsal jsem zp\u011bt \u2013 toto chyt\u0159\u00ed lid\u00e9 p\u00ed\u0161\u00ed, \u017ee probl\u00e9m takov\u00fd d\u0159\u00edve byl, mo\u017en\u00e1 \u017ee se i te\u010f zachoval? Poskytl jsem standardn\u00ed technick\u00e9 informace.<\/p>\n<p>7 dn\u00ed (sedm dn\u00ed, Karle!) technick\u00e1 podpora ml\u010dela. V\u00fdsledek nebyl povzbudiv\u00fd. Uv\u00e1d\u00edm v zkr\u00e1cen\u00e9 podob\u011b:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Michale, dobr\u00fd den!<\/p>\n<p>Ve va\u0161em p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b je vypnut\u00ed slu\u017eeb po upgradu produktu spojeno pr\u00e1v\u011b s individu\u00e1ln\u00edmi nebo skupinov\u00fdmi nastaven\u00edmi opera\u010dn\u00edho syst\u00e9mu (m\u00e9 z\u00e1v\u011bry jsou zalo\u017eeny na zkoum\u00e1n\u00ed v\u00e1mi zaslan\u00e9 zpr\u00e1vy). <\/p>\n<p>Doporu\u010duji v\u00e1m na hlubok\u00e9 \u00farovni prozkoumat pr\u00e1ci syst\u00e9mov\u00fdch slu\u017eeb. R\u00e1d bych v\u00e1m v tom pomohl, av\u0161ak to spad\u00e1 do kompetence podpory Microsoft, proto\u017ee uveden\u00e9 \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed je funk\u010dn\u00ed a vy\u017eaduje pouze jednor\u00e1zov\u00fd vstup.<\/p>\n<p>Za sebe chci dodat, \u017ee <b>oba uveden\u00e9 slu\u017eby se vztahuj\u00ed k aktualizaci opera\u010dn\u00edho syst\u00e9mu a nijak neovliv\u0148uj\u00ed fungov\u00e1n\u00ed na\u0161eho produktu, a tedy ani \u00farove\u0148 va\u0161\u00ed ochrany<\/b>. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> A je konec. Mrz\u00ed m\u011b to.<\/p>\n<p>Dob\u0159e, pokud Kaspersky Lab nem\u016f\u017ee naj\u00edt chybu, budou ji muset naj\u00edt voj\u00e1ci N, budu ji muset hledat s\u00e1m.<\/p>\n<p>Nastaven\u00ed slu\u017eeb Windows se ukl\u00e1d\u00e1 do v\u011btve registru:<\/p>\n<pre><code class=\"plaintext\">HKLM\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\services<\/code><\/pre>\n<p>\nVe \u0444\u0430\u0439\u043b\u043e\u0432\u00e9 syst\u00e9mu se nic u\u017eite\u010dn\u00e9ho neukl\u00e1d\u00e1, krom\u011b bin\u00e1rn\u00edch soubor\u016f.<\/p>\n<p>\u010c\u00edm monitorujeme registr? Nejpou\u017e\u00edvan\u011bj\u0161\u00edm n\u00e1strojem je <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/docs.microsoft.com\/en-us\/sysinternals\/downloads\/procmon\">Process Monitor od Sysinternals<\/a><\/noindex>. <\/p>\n<p>Co nen\u00ed v po\u0159\u00e1dku s Process Monitor? Je velmi slo\u017eit\u00e9 v n\u011bm n\u011bco naj\u00edt, pokud p\u0159esn\u011b nev\u00edte, co hled\u00e1te. <\/p>\n<p>Z\u00e1rove\u0148 existuj\u00ed utility od ne tak \u0161iroce zn\u00e1m\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nirsoft.net\/\">Nirsoft<\/a><\/noindex>. Vyd\u00e1v\u00e1 des\u00edtky unik\u00e1tn\u00edch program\u016f \u2013 od monitorov\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159ipojen\u00ed USB za\u0159\u00edzen\u00ed po \u010dten\u00ed produktov\u00fdch kl\u00ed\u010d\u016f z registru. Pokud jste o n\u00ed nikdy nesly\u0161eli \u2013 velmi doporu\u010duji nav\u0161t\u00edvit jej\u00ed web a ocenit sb\u00edrku. Kdy\u017e jsem o nich poprv\u00e9 sly\u0161el \u2013 jako bych otev\u0159el krabici s hra\u010dkami.<\/p>\n<p>Pro na\u0161i pr\u00e1ci bude u\u017eite\u010dn\u00e1 utilita <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nirsoft.net\/utils\/registry_changes_view.html\">www.nirsoft.net\/utils\/registry_changes_view.html<\/a><\/noindex><br \/>\nRegistryChangesView v1.21. St\u00e1hn\u011bte, spus\u0165te na serveru.<\/p>\n<p>Prvn\u00ed, co mus\u00edte ud\u011blat \u2013 snapshot p\u0159ed instalac\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Strach, bolest a nen\u00e1vist technick\u00e9 podpory\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/d0a08c8182640f1bd4e79e3d24f7c4cb.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nPak spust\u00edme Sysinternals Process Monitor, deaktivujeme v\u0161e krom\u011b registru a nastav\u00edme ulo\u017een\u00ed v\u00fdsledk\u016f do souboru.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Strach, bolest a nen\u00e1vist technick\u00e9 podpory\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/e58a5d494d017e67a5d923c45aac95d7.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nSpou\u0161t\u00edme instala\u010dn\u00ed proces, ujist\u00edme se, \u017ee se v\u0161echno pokazilo.<br \/>\nVytv\u00e1\u0159\u00edme druh\u00fd sn\u00edmek v RegistryChangesView.<br \/>\nPorovn\u00e1v\u00e1me sn\u00edmky mezi sebou.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Strach, bolest a nen\u00e1vist technick\u00e9 podpory\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/b6afb1abaffde95dff5984b5dd81726e.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nA tady je to, co n\u00e1s zaj\u00edmalo.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Strach, bolest a nen\u00e1vist technick\u00e9 podpory\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/0bb271f6828bdab7a9f9542e2a2ba00b.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Strach, bolest a nen\u00e1vist technick\u00e9 podpory\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/f39fa69459fa468beff842f54bd435f1.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nAle kdo to ud\u011blal? Mo\u017en\u00e1 slu\u017eba se sama rozbila?<\/p>\n<p>Pod\u00edv\u00e1me se na log Process Monitor, za\u010dneme filtrov\u00e1n\u00edm proces\u016f:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Strach, bolest a nen\u00e1vist technick\u00e9 podpory\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/072c53ad956970566ca3b40974caeb5a.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Strach, bolest a nen\u00e1vist technick\u00e9 podpory\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/f451e68e95080b3ad526c4587ecc5526.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nBereme souhrn registru, t\u0159\u00edd\u00edme podle pole Writes:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Strach, bolest a nen\u00e1vist technick\u00e9 podpory\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/b101923413091b1b0a2204677a5e1411.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nA tady je hledan\u00e9:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Strach, bolest a nen\u00e1vist technick\u00e9 podpory\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/bc34d854ff48c6f5221ba072426551a1.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Strach, bolest a nen\u00e1vist technick\u00e9 podpory\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/80a4072def0b40b83a85ee2463997166.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nA to je v\u0161e, p\u0159\u00e1tel\u00e9, p\u0159\u00ed\u010dina probl\u00e9mu byla nalezena za 5 minut.<\/p>\n<p>To je ur\u010dit\u011b instal\u00e1tor Kaspersky, a v\u00edme p\u0159esn\u011b, jak rozb\u00edj\u00ed slu\u017ebu. Tak\u017ee ji snadno vr\u00e1t\u00edme do p\u016fvodn\u00edho stavu.<\/p>\n<p>Jak\u00e9 z\u00e1v\u011bry?<\/p>\n<p>Na podporu se spolehni, ale s\u00e1m nezkaz. Nebu\u010f l\u00edn\u00fd. Zjisti to.<br \/>\nPou\u017e\u00edvejte vhodn\u00e9 n\u00e1stroje. Roz\u0161i\u0159ujte svou osobn\u00ed sadu technick\u00fdch prost\u0159edk\u016f. Studujte ty n\u00e1stroje, kter\u00e9 pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1te ka\u017ed\u00fd den.<br \/>\nA pokud pracujete v podpo\u0159e, sna\u017ete se nau\u010dit p\u0159ekonat prvn\u00ed f\u00e1zi - \"Pop\u0159en\u00ed\". To je mimochodem nejt\u011b\u017e\u0161\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>Tak bych m\u011bl za\u010d\u00edt t\u011bchto rad dodr\u017eovat. Ahoj Laborato\u0159i!<\/p>\n<p>PS: D\u011bkuji <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/ru\/users\/berez\/\" class=\"user_link\">berez<\/a><\/noindex> za pomoc s interpunkc\u00ed.<br \/>\n<br \/>Zdroj: <a content=\"nofollow\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/ru\/post\/472650\/\">habr.com<\/a><\/p>","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u0425\u0430\u0431\u0440 \u2014 \u043d\u0435 \u0436\u0430\u043b\u043e\u0431\u043d\u0430\u044f \u043a\u043d\u0438\u0433\u0430. \u042d\u0442\u0430 \u0441\u0442\u0430\u0442\u044c\u044f \u043e \u0431\u0435\u0441\u043f\u043b\u0430\u0442\u043d\u044b\u0445 \u0438\u043d\u0441\u0442\u0440\u0443\u043c\u0435\u043d\u0442\u0430\u0445 \u043a\u043e\u043c\u043f\u0430\u043d\u0438\u0438 Nirsoft \u0434\u043b\u044f \u0441\u0438\u0441\u0442\u0435\u043c\u043d\u043e\u0433\u043e \u0430\u0434\u043c\u0438\u043d\u0438\u0441\u0442\u0440\u0430\u0442\u043e\u0440\u0430 Windows. 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