{"id":53682,"date":"2019-12-07T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-12-06T21:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/blog_prohoster\/nachalos-obshhee-golosovanie-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian"},"modified":"2020-02-18T14:01:36","modified_gmt":"2020-02-18T11:01:36","slug":"nachalos-obshhee-golosovanie-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/cs\/blog\/news\/nachalos-obshhee-golosovanie-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian","title":{"rendered":"Za\u010dalo ve\u0159ejn\u00e9 hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed o inicializa\u010dn\u00edch syst\u00e9mech v Debianu","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"

Projekt Debian ozn\u00e1mil<\/a><\/noindex> o zah\u00e1jen\u00ed obecn\u00e9ho hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed<\/a><\/noindex> (GR, obecn\u00e9 usnesen\u00ed) v\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159\u016f projektu o podpo\u0159e n\u011bkolika syst\u00e9m\u016f inicializace<\/a><\/noindex>, kter\u00e9 ur\u010d\u00ed dal\u0161\u00ed politiku projektu v\u016f\u010di vazb\u011b na systemd, podpo\u0159e alternativn\u00edch syst\u00e9m\u016f inicializace a spolupr\u00e1ci s odvozen\u00fdmi distribucemi, kter\u00e9 systemd nepou\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed. Hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed potrv\u00e1 do 27. prosince v\u010detn\u011b, v\u00fdsledky budou ozn\u00e1meny 28. prosince.<\/p>\n

P\u0159ipome\u0148me, \u017ee v roce 2014 technick\u00fd v\u00fdbor schv\u00e1lil<\/a><\/noindex> p\u0159ej\u00edt<\/a><\/noindex> distribuce ve v\u00fdchoz\u00edm nastaven\u00ed na systemd, ale ne vypracoval<\/a><\/noindex> rozhodnut\u00ed o podpo\u0159e n\u011bkolika syst\u00e9m\u016f inicializace (v hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed zv\u00edt\u011bzil bod, kter\u00fd ukazuje na neochotu v\u00fdboru u\u010dinit rozhodnut\u00ed k t\u00e9to ot\u00e1zce). Vedouc\u00ed v\u00fdboru doporu\u010dil \u00fadr\u017eb\u00e1\u0159\u016fm bal\u00ed\u010dk\u016f zachovat podporu sysvinit jako alternativn\u00ed syst\u00e9m inicializace, ale uvedl, \u017ee nem\u016f\u017ee prosazovat sv\u016fj n\u00e1zor a v ka\u017ed\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b by m\u011blo b\u00fdt rozhodnut\u00ed p\u0159ijato samostatn\u011b. <\/p>\n

Po tomto kroku se n\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed v\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159i pokusili o uspo\u0159\u00e1d\u00e1n\u00ed<\/a><\/noindex> spole\u010dn\u00e9ho hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed, ale p\u0159edb\u011b\u017en\u00e9 hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed uk\u00e1zalo, \u017ee nen\u00ed pot\u0159eba u\u010dinit rozhodnut\u00ed o ot\u00e1zce pou\u017eit\u00ed n\u011bkolika inicializa\u010dn\u00edch syst\u00e9m\u016f. P\u0159ed n\u011bkolika m\u011bs\u00edci, po probl\u00e9mech<\/a><\/noindex> s zahrnut\u00edm bal\u00ed\u010dku elogind (pot\u0159ebn\u00e9ho pro fungov\u00e1n\u00ed GNOME bez systemd) do testing v\u011btve kv\u016fli konfliktu s libsystemd, byla tato ot\u00e1zka znovu vznesena p\u0159edsedou projektu Debian, proto\u017ee se v\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159i nedok\u00e1zali dohodnout a jejich komunikace se zm\u011bnila v konfrontaci a dostala se do slep\u00e9 uli\u010dky. <\/p>\n

Prob\u00edhaj\u00edc\u00ed hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed umo\u017en\u00ed schv\u00e1lit politiku ohledn\u011b n\u011bkolika syst\u00e9m\u016f inicializace, a pokud zv\u00edt\u011bz\u00ed mo\u017enost, kter\u00e1 vy\u017eaduje podporu alternativn\u00edch syst\u00e9m\u016f, \u00fadr\u017eb\u00e1\u0159i nebudou moci tyto ot\u00e1zky ignorovat nebo zdr\u017eovat. Po diskusi o t\u0159ech p\u016fvodn\u011b navr\u017een\u00fdch bodech hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed vedouc\u00edm projektu bylo po\u010det mo\u017enost\u00ed roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159eno na osm. P\u0159i hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed je povoleno vybrat n\u011bkolik bod\u016f s hodnocen\u00edm vybran\u00fdch prvk\u016f podle \u00farovn\u011b preference. Pr\u00e1va hlasu m\u00e1 p\u0159ibli\u017en\u011b tis\u00edc v\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed se pod\u00edlej\u00ed na \u00fadr\u017eb\u011b bal\u00ed\u010dk\u016f a infrastruktu\u0159e.<\/p>\n

Navrhovan\u00e9 mo\u017enosti:<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

  • Hlavn\u00ed d\u016fraz je kladen na systemd. Poskytov\u00e1n\u00ed podpory alternativn\u00edch init syst\u00e9m\u016f nen\u00ed prioritou, ale \u00fadr\u017eb\u00e1\u0159i maj\u00ed pr\u00e1vo voliteln\u011b zahrnout init skripty pro takov\u00e9 syst\u00e9my do bal\u00ed\u010dk\u016f.\n
  • Podpora r\u016fzn\u00fdch init syst\u00e9m\u016f a mo\u017enost zav\u00e1d\u011bn\u00ed Debianu s init syst\u00e9my odli\u0161n\u00fdmi od systemd.
    \nPro spu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed slu\u017eeb mus\u00ed bal\u00ed\u010dky nutn\u011b obsahovat init skripty, dod\u00e1n\u00ed pouze unit soubor\u016f systemd bez sysv init skript\u016f nen\u00ed p\u0159\u00edpustn\u00e9.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n
  • Preferovan\u00fdm z\u016fst\u00e1v\u00e1 systemd, ale je ponech\u00e1na mo\u017enost \u00fadr\u017eby a alternativn\u00edch init syst\u00e9m\u016f. Technologie jako elogind, kter\u00e9 umo\u017e\u0148uj\u00ed spou\u0161t\u011bt aplikace v alternativn\u00edch prost\u0159ed\u00edch spojen\u00e9 se systemd, jsou pova\u017eov\u00e1ny za d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9. Do bal\u00ed\u010dk\u016f lze zahrnout init soubory pro alternativn\u00ed syst\u00e9my.\n
  • Podpora syst\u00e9m\u016f, kter\u00e9 nepou\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed systemd, ale bez z\u00e1sah\u016f, kter\u00e9 by br\u00e1nily rozvoji. V\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159i souhlas\u00ed s t\u00edm, \u017ee budou podporovat n\u011bkolik inicia\u010dn\u00edch syst\u00e9m\u016f v dohledn\u00e9 budoucnosti, z\u00e1rove\u0148 v\u0161ak pova\u017euj\u00ed za nezbytn\u00e9 pracovat na zlep\u0161en\u00ed podpory systemd. V\u00fdvojem a \u00fadr\u017ebou specifick\u00fdch \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed by se m\u011bli zab\u00fdvat z\u00e1jemci o tato \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed, nicm\u00e9n\u011b ostatn\u00ed udr\u017eovatel\u00e9 by m\u011bli aktivn\u011b pom\u00e1hat a p\u0159isp\u00edvat k \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed probl\u00e9m\u016f, pokud to bude pot\u0159eba. Ide\u00e1ln\u011b by m\u011bly bal\u00ed\u010dky fungovat p\u0159i pou\u017eit\u00ed jak\u00e9hokoli inicia\u010dn\u00edho syst\u00e9mu, pro co\u017e lze dod\u00e1vat tradi\u010dn\u00ed init skripty nebo pou\u017e\u00edvat jin\u00e9 mechanismy, kter\u00e9 umo\u017e\u0148uj\u00ed fungov\u00e1n\u00ed bez systemd. Neschopnost fungovat bez systemd je pova\u017eov\u00e1na za chybu, ov\u0161em ne chybu br\u00e1n\u00edc\u00ed vyd\u00e1n\u00ed, pokud existuje hotov\u00e9 \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed pro fungov\u00e1n\u00ed bez systemd, ale to je odm\u00edtnuto uchovat (nap\u0159\u00edklad kdy\u017e probl\u00e9m vypl\u00fdv\u00e1 z odstran\u011bn\u00ed d\u0159\u00edve dod\u00e1van\u00e9ho init skriptu).\n
  • Podpora p\u0159enositelnosti bez zm\u011bn br\u00e1n\u00edc\u00edch rozvoji. Debian je nad\u00e1le pova\u017eov\u00e1n za spojovac\u00ed \u010dl\u00e1nek pro integraci r\u016fzn\u00fdch softwar\u016f, kter\u00e9 poskytuj\u00ed ekvivalentn\u00ed nebo podobnou funkcionalitu. P\u0159enositelnost mezi hardwarov\u00fdmi platformami a softwarov\u00fdmi stacky pat\u0159\u00ed mezi d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 \u00fakoly, p\u0159i\u010dem\u017e integrace alternativn\u00edch technologi\u00ed je v\u00edt\u00e1na, i kdy\u017e se n\u00e1zory jejich tv\u016frc\u016f li\u0161\u00ed od obecn\u00e9ho p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010den\u00ed. Postoj k systemd a dal\u0161\u00edm syst\u00e9m\u016fm inicializace se pln\u011b shoduje s bodem 4.\n
  • P\u0159evod podpory v\u00edce syst\u00e9m\u016f inicializace na povinn\u00e9. Mo\u017enost spustit Debian se syst\u00e9my inicializace odli\u0161n\u00fdmi od systemd z\u016fst\u00e1v\u00e1 pro projekt d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1. Ka\u017ed\u00fd bal\u00ed\u010dek mus\u00ed fungovat s pid1 handlerem odli\u0161n\u00fdm od systemd, s v\u00fdjimkou p\u0159\u00edpad\u016f, kdy software obsa\u017een\u00fd v bal\u00ed\u010dku byl od za\u010d\u00e1tku ur\u010den pouze pro pr\u00e1ci se systemd a nem\u00e1 podporu pro spu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed bez systemd (absence init skript\u016f se nepova\u017euje za ur\u010den\u00ed pouze pro systemd).\n
  • Podpora p\u0159enositelnosti a n\u011bkolika realizac\u00ed. Obecn\u00e9 principy se pln\u011b shoduj\u00ed s bodem 5, av\u0161ak konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed po\u017eadavky v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b systemd a syst\u00e9m\u016f inicializace nejsou stanoveny a \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 z\u00e1vazky na v\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159e nejsou ulo\u017eeny. V\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159\u016fm se doporu\u010duje vz\u00edt v \u00favahu z\u00e1jmy ostatn\u00edch, hledat kompromisy a naj\u00edt spole\u010dn\u00e1 \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed, kter\u00e1 budou vyhovovat r\u016fzn\u00fdm stran\u00e1m.\n
  • Pokra\u010dov\u00e1n\u00ed diskuse. Bod m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt pou\u017eit k sn\u00ed\u017een\u00ed hodnocen\u00ed nep\u0159ijateln\u00fdch variant.\n

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