{"id":54524,"date":"2019-12-28T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-12-27T21:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/blog_prohoster\/podvedeny-itogi-golosovaniya-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian"},"modified":"2020-02-18T14:02:32","modified_gmt":"2020-02-18T11:02:32","slug":"podvedeny-itogi-golosovaniya-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/cs\/blog\/news\/podvedeny-itogi-golosovaniya-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian","title":{"rendered":"Byly vyhodnoceny v\u00fdsledky hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed o inicia\u010dn\u00edch syst\u00e9mech v Debiane","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"

Byly zve\u0159ejn\u011bny<\/a><\/noindex> v\u00fdsledky obecn\u00e9ho hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed<\/a><\/noindex> (GR, obecn\u00e1 rezoluce) v\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159\u016f projektu Debian, kte\u0159\u00ed se pod\u00edlej\u00ed na \u00fadr\u017eb\u011b bal\u00ed\u010dk\u016f a podpo\u0159e infrastruktury, se zab\u00fdval podporou n\u011bkolika inicializa\u010dn\u00edch syst\u00e9m\u016f. V\u00edt\u011bzem se stal druh\u00fd bod («B») v seznamu \u2014 preferovan\u00fdm z\u016fst\u00e1v\u00e1 systemd, ale z\u016fst\u00e1v\u00e1 mo\u017enost \u00fadr\u017eby alternativn\u00edch inicializa\u010dn\u00edch syst\u00e9m\u016f. Hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed bylo uskute\u010dn\u011bno metodou Kondorsee<\/a><\/noindex>, v n\u00ed\u017e ka\u017ed\u00fd voli\u010d se\u0159ad\u00ed v\u0161echny mo\u017enosti podle sv\u00e9ho preference, p\u0159i\u010dem\u017e p\u0159i v\u00fdpo\u010dtu v\u00fdsledku se zohled\u0148uje, kolik voli\u010d\u016f preferuje jednu mo\u017enost p\u0159ed druhou.<\/p>\n

V\u00edt\u011bzn\u00fd variant uzn\u00e1v\u00e1, \u017ee servisn\u00ed jednotky systemd jsou preferovan\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem konfigurace spu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed d\u00e9mon\u016f a slu\u017eeb, ale p\u0159ipou\u0161t\u00ed, \u017ee existuj\u00ed prost\u0159ed\u00ed, ve kter\u00fdch mohou v\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159i a u\u017eivatel\u00e9 vytv\u00e1\u0159et a aplikovat alternativn\u00ed inicia\u010dn\u00ed syst\u00e9my a funk\u010dn\u00ed alternativy k mo\u017enostem systemd. V\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159i alternativn\u00edch \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed pot\u0159ebuj\u00ed poskytov\u00e1n\u00ed zdroj\u016f pro prov\u00e1d\u011bn\u00ed sv\u00e9 pr\u00e1ce a form\u00e1tov\u00e1n\u00ed bal\u00ed\u010dk\u016f. Alternativn\u00ed \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed, jako nap\u0159\u00edklad elogind, pou\u017e\u00edvan\u00e9 k organizaci spou\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed aplikac\u00ed v\u00e1zan\u00fdch na rozhran\u00ed specifick\u00e1 pro systemd, z\u016fst\u00e1vaj\u00ed d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1 pro projekt. Podpora podobn\u00fdch iniciativ vy\u017eaduje spolupr\u00e1ci v oblastech, kde se vyv\u00edjen\u00e9 alternativn\u00ed technologie p\u0159ekr\u00fdvaj\u00ed s ostatn\u00edm projektem, nap\u0159\u00edklad se nesm\u00ed zdr\u017eovat recenzov\u00e1n\u00ed patch\u016f a veden\u00ed diskuz\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Do bal\u00ed\u010dk\u016f je mo\u017en\u00e9 zahrnout jak unit soubory systemd, tak init skripty pro spou\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed slu\u017eeb. Bal\u00ed\u010dky mohou vyu\u017e\u00edvat jak\u00e9koliv mo\u017enosti systemd podle p\u0159\u00e1n\u00ed udr\u017eovatele bal\u00ed\u010dku, za p\u0159edpokladu, \u017ee tyto mo\u017enosti odpov\u00eddaj\u00ed po\u017eadavk\u016fm pravidel Debian a nejsou v\u00e1z\u00e1ny na experiment\u00e1ln\u00ed nebo nepodporovan\u00e9 mo\u017enosti z jin\u00fdch bal\u00ed\u010dk\u016f. Krom\u011b systemd mohou bal\u00ed\u010dky tak\u00e9 zahrnovat podporu alternativn\u00edch inicializa\u010dn\u00edch syst\u00e9m\u016f a poskytovat komponenty pro nahrazen\u00ed specifick\u00fdch rozhran\u00ed systemd. Rozhodnut\u00ed o zahrnut\u00ed patch\u016f p\u0159ij\u00edmaj\u00ed udr\u017eovatel\u00e9 v r\u00e1mci b\u011b\u017en\u00fdch procedur. Debian se zavazuje spolupracovat s odvozen\u00fdmi distribucemi, kter\u00e9 si zvolily jin\u00e9 inicializa\u010dn\u00ed syst\u00e9my, p\u0159i\u010dem\u017e interakce se buduje na \u00farovni udr\u017eovatel\u016f, na kter\u00e9 se p\u0159en\u00e1\u0161ej\u00ed rozhodnut\u00ed o tom, kter\u00e9 mo\u017enosti p\u0159ipraven\u00e9 t\u0159et\u00edmi distribucemi p\u0159ijmout do hlavn\u00edho j\u00e1dra Debian a kter\u00e9 ponechat v odvozen\u00e9 distribuci.<\/p>\n

P\u0159ipome\u0148me, \u017ee v roce 2014 technick\u00fd v\u00fdbor schv\u00e1lil<\/a><\/noindex> p\u0159ej\u00edt<\/a><\/noindex> distribuce ve v\u00fdchoz\u00edm nastaven\u00ed na systemd, ale ne vypracoval<\/a><\/noindex> rozhodnut\u00ed ohledn\u011b podpory n\u011bkolika inicializa\u010dn\u00edch syst\u00e9m\u016f (v hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed zv\u00edt\u011bzil bod, kter\u00fd poukazoval na neochotu v\u00fdboru u\u010dinit rozhodnut\u00ed v t\u00e9to v\u011bci). P\u0159edseda v\u00fdboru doporu\u010dil udr\u017eovatel\u016fm bal\u00ed\u010dk\u016f zachovat podporu sysvinit jako alternativn\u00edho inicializa\u010dn\u00edho syst\u00e9mu, ale uvedl, \u017ee nem\u016f\u017ee vnucovat sv\u016fj n\u00e1zor a v ka\u017ed\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b by se m\u011blo rozhodovat samostatn\u011b. <\/p>\n

Po tomto kroku se n\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed v\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159i pokusili o uspo\u0159\u00e1d\u00e1n\u00ed<\/a><\/noindex> spole\u010dn\u00e9ho hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed, ale p\u0159edb\u011b\u017en\u00e9 hlasov\u00e1n\u00ed uk\u00e1zalo, \u017ee nen\u00ed pot\u0159eba u\u010dinit rozhodnut\u00ed o ot\u00e1zce pou\u017eit\u00ed n\u011bkolika inicializa\u010dn\u00edch syst\u00e9m\u016f. P\u0159ed n\u011bkolika m\u011bs\u00edci, po probl\u00e9mech<\/a><\/noindex> s zahrnut\u00edm bal\u00ed\u010dku elogind (pot\u0159ebn\u00e9ho pro fungov\u00e1n\u00ed GNOME bez systemd) do testing v\u011btve kv\u016fli konfliktu s libsystemd, byla tato ot\u00e1zka znovu vznesena p\u0159edsedou projektu Debian, proto\u017ee se v\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159i nedok\u00e1zali dohodnout a jejich komunikace se zm\u011bnila v konfrontaci a dostala se do slep\u00e9 uli\u010dky. <\/p>\n

Zva\u017eovan\u00e9 mo\u017enosti:<\/p>\n

  • Hlavn\u00ed d\u016fraz je kladen na systemd. Poskytov\u00e1n\u00ed podpory alternativn\u00edch init syst\u00e9m\u016f nen\u00ed prioritou, ale \u00fadr\u017eb\u00e1\u0159i maj\u00ed pr\u00e1vo voliteln\u011b zahrnout init skripty pro takov\u00e9 syst\u00e9my do bal\u00ed\u010dk\u016f.\n<\/li>\n
  • Preferovan\u00fdm z\u016fst\u00e1v\u00e1 systemd, ale je ponech\u00e1na mo\u017enost \u00fadr\u017eby a alternativn\u00edch init syst\u00e9m\u016f. Technologie jako elogind, kter\u00e9 umo\u017e\u0148uj\u00ed spou\u0161t\u011bt aplikace v alternativn\u00edch prost\u0159ed\u00edch spojen\u00e9 se systemd, jsou pova\u017eov\u00e1ny za d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9. Do bal\u00ed\u010dk\u016f lze zahrnout init soubory pro alternativn\u00ed syst\u00e9my.\n<\/li>\n
  • Podpora r\u016fzn\u00fdch init syst\u00e9m\u016f a mo\u017enost zav\u00e1d\u011bn\u00ed Debianu s init syst\u00e9my odli\u0161n\u00fdmi od systemd.
    \nPro spu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed slu\u017eeb mus\u00ed bal\u00ed\u010dky nutn\u011b obsahovat init skripty, dod\u00e1n\u00ed pouze unit soubor\u016f systemd bez sysv init skript\u016f nen\u00ed p\u0159\u00edpustn\u00e9.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n
  • Podpora syst\u00e9m\u016f, kter\u00e9 nepou\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed systemd, av\u0161ak bez vyd\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed zm\u011bn, kter\u00e9 by br\u00e1nily rozvoji. V\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159i souhlas\u00ed s podporou n\u011bkolika init syst\u00e9m\u016f v dohledn\u00e9 budoucnosti, ale tak\u00e9 pova\u017euj\u00ed za nutn\u00e9 pracovat na zlep\u0161en\u00ed podpory systemd. V\u00fdvojem a \u00fadr\u017ebou specifick\u00fdch \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed by se m\u011bly zab\u00fdvat zainteresovan\u00e9 komunity, ale ostatn\u00ed \u00fadr\u017eb\u00e1\u0159i by m\u011bli aktivn\u011b pom\u00e1hat a p\u0159isp\u00edvat k \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed probl\u00e9m\u016f, kdykoli nastane pot\u0159eba. Ide\u00e1ln\u011b by bal\u00ed\u010dky m\u011bly fungovat p\u0159i pou\u017eit\u00ed jak\u00e9hokoli init syst\u00e9mu, za t\u00edmto \u00fa\u010delem lze dod\u00e1vat tradi\u010dn\u00ed init skripty nebo vyu\u017e\u00edvat jin\u00e9 mechanismy umo\u017e\u0148uj\u00edc\u00ed fungov\u00e1n\u00ed bez systemd. Neschopnost fungovat bez systemd je pova\u017eov\u00e1na za chybu, av\u0161ak nikoli za chybu, kter\u00e1 by blokovala vyd\u00e1n\u00ed, s v\u00fdjimkou p\u0159\u00edpad\u016f, kdy existuje hotov\u00e9 \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed pro fungov\u00e1n\u00ed bez systemd, ale je odm\u00edtnuto jeho zachov\u00e1n\u00ed (nap\u0159\u00edklad kdy\u017e probl\u00e9m je zp\u016fsoben odstran\u011bn\u00edm d\u0159\u00edve dod\u00e1van\u00e9ho init skriptu).\n<\/li>\n
  • Podpora p\u0159enositelnosti bez zm\u011bn br\u00e1n\u00edc\u00edch rozvoji. Debian je nad\u00e1le pova\u017eov\u00e1n za spojovac\u00ed \u010dl\u00e1nek pro integraci r\u016fzn\u00fdch softwar\u016f, kter\u00e9 poskytuj\u00ed ekvivalentn\u00ed nebo podobnou funkcionalitu. P\u0159enositelnost mezi hardwarov\u00fdmi platformami a softwarov\u00fdmi stacky pat\u0159\u00ed mezi d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 \u00fakoly, p\u0159i\u010dem\u017e integrace alternativn\u00edch technologi\u00ed je v\u00edt\u00e1na, i kdy\u017e se n\u00e1zory jejich tv\u016frc\u016f li\u0161\u00ed od obecn\u00e9ho p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010den\u00ed. Postoj k systemd a dal\u0161\u00edm syst\u00e9m\u016fm inicializace se pln\u011b shoduje s bodem 4.\n<\/li>\n
  • P\u0159evod podpory v\u00edce syst\u00e9m\u016f inicializace na povinn\u00e9. Mo\u017enost spustit Debian se syst\u00e9my inicializace odli\u0161n\u00fdmi od systemd z\u016fst\u00e1v\u00e1 pro projekt d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1. Ka\u017ed\u00fd bal\u00ed\u010dek mus\u00ed fungovat s pid1 handlerem odli\u0161n\u00fdm od systemd, s v\u00fdjimkou p\u0159\u00edpad\u016f, kdy software obsa\u017een\u00fd v bal\u00ed\u010dku byl od za\u010d\u00e1tku ur\u010den pouze pro pr\u00e1ci se systemd a nem\u00e1 podporu pro spu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed bez systemd (absence init skript\u016f se nepova\u017euje za ur\u010den\u00ed pouze pro systemd).\n<\/li>\n
  • Podpora p\u0159enositelnosti a n\u011bkolika realizac\u00ed. Obecn\u00e9 principy se pln\u011b shoduj\u00ed s bodem 5, av\u0161ak konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed po\u017eadavky v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b systemd a syst\u00e9m\u016f inicializace nejsou stanoveny a \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 z\u00e1vazky na v\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159e nejsou ulo\u017eeny. V\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159\u016fm se doporu\u010duje vz\u00edt v \u00favahu z\u00e1jmy ostatn\u00edch, hledat kompromisy a naj\u00edt spole\u010dn\u00e1 \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed, kter\u00e1 budou vyhovovat r\u016fzn\u00fdm stran\u00e1m.\n<\/li>\n
  • Pokra\u010dov\u00e1n\u00ed diskuse. Bod m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt pou\u017eit k sn\u00ed\u017een\u00ed hodnocen\u00ed nep\u0159ijateln\u00fdch variant.\n<\/li>\n

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