{"id":82838,"date":"2020-05-25T13:42:25","date_gmt":"2020-05-25T11:42:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/administrirovanie\/uberite-vashih-detej-ot-nashih-golubyh-ekranov-ili-pochemu-nelzya-pokupat-yandeks-stancziyu-dlya-rebyonka"},"modified":"2020-05-25T13:42:25","modified_gmt":"2020-05-25T11:42:25","slug":"uberite-vashih-detej-ot-nashih-golubyh-ekranov-ili-pochemu-nelzya-pokupat-yandeks-stancziyu-dlya-rebyonka","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/cs\/blog\/administrirovanie\/uberite-vashih-detej-ot-nashih-golubyh-ekranov-ili-pochemu-nelzya-pokupat-yandeks-stancziyu-dlya-rebyonka","title":{"rendered":"Odlo\u017ete sv\u00e9 d\u011bti od na\u0161ich modr\u00fdch obrazovek, nebo pro\u010d nekupovat Yandex.Stanici pro d\u00edt\u011b","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"

P\u0159ed p\u0159ibli\u017en\u011b dv\u011bma t\u00fddny jsem kontaktoval technickou podporu Yandexu ohledn\u011b filtrace vide\u00ed v d\u011btsk\u00e9m re\u017eimu.<\/p>\n

Up\u0159\u00edmn\u011b \u0159e\u010deno, u\u017e d\u0159\u00edve jsem m\u011bl chu\u0165 se obr\u00e1tit kv\u016fli nevhodn\u00e9mu obsahu pro d\u011bti, ale jak to b\u00fdv\u00e1 \u2014 odkl\u00e1dal jsem to.<\/p>\n

Krom\u011b toho \u2014 v\u017edy\u0165 je to Yandex! Ten l\u00e9pe v\u00ed, co jsi cht\u011bl naj\u00edt.<\/p>\n

Jak se uk\u00e1zalo \u2014 ne l\u00e9pe.<\/p>\n

\"Odlo\u017ete
\n
\nV\u0161imni si ikony d\u011btsk\u00e9ho re\u017eimu vpravo naho\u0159e.
\n<\/a><\/noindex>
\nPr\u00e1v\u011b tuhle obrazovku \u2014 o nevhodn\u00e9m jazyce a 18+ jsem vid\u011bl, kdy\u017e jsem se pokusil pustit d\u00edt\u011bti video pr\u016fchodu kr\u00e1sn\u00e9 hry od MZ, mimochodem \u2014 hra m\u00e1 6+.<\/p>\n

Odpov\u00eddaj\u00edc\u00ed alternativy samoz\u0159ejm\u011b existovaly, ale z\u016fstal jako nep\u0159\u00edjemn\u00fd pocit.<\/p>\n

Trochu pozad\u00ed \u2014 pro\u010d jsem se n\u00e1hle rozhodl obr\u00e1tit na TP.<\/p>\n

D\u00edt\u011b (7 let) nen\u00ed ciz\u00ed po\u010d\u00edta\u010d\u016fm a gadget\u016fm, ale tak\u00e9 jimi nen\u00ed posedl\u00e9.<\/p>\n

R\u00e1do maluje a obvykle, s pomoc\u00ed Alice \u2014 d\u00edvaj\u00edc se na monitor, se sna\u017e\u00ed opakovat to, co se u\u010d\u00ed na workshopech, poslouch\u00e1 hudbu, tan\u010d\u00ed a zp\u00edv\u00e1. <\/p>\n

V\u017edy se spr\u00e1vn\u011b zach\u00e1z\u00ed s technikou a pokud m\u00e1 n\u011bjakou ot\u00e1zku, v\u011bt\u0161inou se sna\u017e\u00ed s\u00e1m zjistit, co je nejasn\u00e9. Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b jako rodi\u010de v\u017edy vysv\u011btl\u00edme a navedeme, ale d\u00edt\u011b m\u00e1 z\u00e1jem tak\u00e9 o jin\u00fd pohled, co\u017e je obecn\u011b spr\u00e1vn\u011b. Ale jak se uk\u00e1zalo \u2014 ne v tomto p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b.<\/p>\n

Osobn\u00ed \u010das a prostor by m\u011blo m\u00edt i d\u00edt\u011b a zav\u0159en\u00e9 dve\u0159e na jednu-dv\u011b hodiny denn\u011b m\u011b zcela neznepokojovaly \u2014 kouk\u00e1 na poh\u00e1dky, maluje \u2014 co m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt \u0161patn\u00e9ho?<\/p>\n

Dokud nep\u0159istoupila a ne\u0159ekla: \u201eM\u00e1m strach.\u201c<\/p>\n

Narazila n\u011bkde na horory, kter\u00e9 by nem\u011bli sledovat ani n\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed dosp\u011bl\u00ed. Mo\u017en\u00e1 Alice nespr\u00e1vn\u011b rozpoznala dotaz, mo\u017en\u00e1 j\u00ed n\u011bco \u0159ekly kamar\u00e1dky \u2014 a to je v\u00fdsledek.<\/p>\n

\"Odlo\u017ete
\n
\nKouzeln\u00e1 videa v d\u011btsk\u00e9m re\u017eimu p\u0159\u00edmo od Yandexu \u2014 z jeho videohostingu, \u017ee?
\nPo zhl\u00e9dnut\u00ed \u201etoho\u201c p\u00e1r minut jsem se rozhodl bez odkladu obr\u00e1tit na TP \u2014 takov\u00fd \u0161ok v d\u011btsk\u00e9m re\u017eimu je nep\u0159ijateln\u00fd a douf\u00e1m, \u017ee kluci \u201ejen dolad\u00ed filtry\u201c. Ale \u010dl\u00e1nek by nebyl, kdyby to bylo tak jednoduch\u00e9.<\/p>\n

P\u0159edb\u00edh\u00e1m \u2014 abys nemusel \u010d\u00edst slo\u017eitou korespondenci s TP.
\nJednodu\u0161e \u0159e\u010deno: filtry neexistuj\u00ed. My (Yandex) pova\u017eujeme, \u017ee je v\u0161e v po\u0159\u00e1dku.<\/p>\n

D\u00edt\u011b uvid\u00ed v\u0161echno, na co nebylo nucen\u011b (moder\u00e1tory nebo nahr\u00e1va\u010di vide\u00ed) nastaveno v\u011bkov\u00e9 omezen\u00ed. Pro YouTube a Yandex, kter\u00e9 poskytuj\u00ed hlavn\u00ed obsah na stanici, to znamen\u00e1, \u017ee prakticky jak\u00e9koli video je dostupn\u00e9, proto\u017ee se p\u0159enahr\u00e1vaj\u00ed jak\u00e1koli videa bez toho, aby se obt\u011b\u017eovali nastavit omezen\u00ed. Novinov\u00e9 kan\u00e1ly TV na hostingu jsou dostupn\u00e9 v\u0161echny (i kdy\u017e pro zpr\u00e1vy u\u017e bylo na \u010dase nastavit 16+).<\/p>\n

Nen\u00ed ani filtr podle kl\u00ed\u010dov\u00fdch slov dotazu.<\/p>\n

vl\u00e1kno komunikace s TP<\/b>
\n 2020-04-07 13:37:40, Ivan
\nT\u00e9ma \u017e\u00e1dosti: Jin\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka
\nOt\u00e1zka k: Filtraci videa v d\u011btsk\u00e9m re\u017eimu
\nDobr\u00fd den!
\nV nastaven\u00ed stanice je zapnut\u00fd d\u011btsk\u00fd re\u017eim, ale filtraci, jak ch\u00e1pu, prov\u00e1d\u00ed pouze podle kl\u00ed\u010dov\u00fdch slov.
\nV\u00fdsledkem je, \u017ee \u010dasto na obrazovce je video, kter\u00e9 pro sedmilet\u00e9ho d\u00edt\u011bte je jednozna\u010dn\u011b \"hr\u016fza\". Takov\u00fd obsah se pravideln\u011b objevuje jak na YouTube, tak na yandex.video.
\nPros\u00edm, \u0159ekn\u011bte mi, jak mohu tento probl\u00e9m vy\u0159e\u0161it.<\/p>\n

\u00fat, 7. dubna 2020, 17:03 Yandex.Support
\nDobr\u00fd den, Ivane!
\nNejprve pros\u00edm ujist\u011bte se, \u017ee m\u00e1te nastaven\u00fd re\u017eim filtrace v p\u0159\u00edslu\u0161n\u00e9m odd\u011blen\u00ed aplikace \"Yandex\": menu (\u229e) -> \"Za\u0159\u00edzen\u00ed\" -> \"\u00da\u010det\" -> \"Re\u017eim vyhled\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed\".
\nJe to spr\u00e1vn\u011b?
\nV tom p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b, pros\u00edm, uve\u010fte, na jak\u00e9m zdroji se videa p\u0159ehr\u00e1vaj\u00ed?
\nM\u016f\u017eete, pros\u00edm, uv\u00e9st p\u0159\u00edklad takov\u00e9ho videa?
\nBudu \u010dekat na va\u0161i odpov\u011b\u010f.<\/p>\n

2020-04-07 14:44:36, Ivan
\nDobr\u00fd den.
\nPrvn\u00ed foto \u2013 v\u00fdsledek pokusu o spu\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed doktora House z domovsk\u00e9 obrazovky (zam\u00edtnut\u00ed). Tedy, d\u011btsk\u00fd re\u017eim je zapnut\u00fd.
\nNo a d\u00e1le \u2013 v\u0161echny ostatn\u00ed dotazy.
\nM\u00e1m zvl\u00e1\u0161tn\u00ed prosbu \u2014 mohl byste pros\u00edm okomentovat, pro\u010d se \u017e\u00e1dost o video s kl\u00ed\u010dov\u00fdm slovem 'vra\u017eda(y)' v\u016fbec zpracov\u00e1v\u00e1 v d\u011btsk\u00e9m re\u017eimu.
\n\/\/\u043f\u0440\u0438\u043c. \u0442\u0443\u0442 \u044f \u043f\u0440\u0438\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0438\u043b \u043f\u0430\u0447\u043a\u0443 \u0444\u043e\u0442\u043e\u0433\u0440\u0430\u0444\u0438\u0439<\/p>\n

\u00fat, 7. dubna 2020 v 18:32, Yandex.Support
\nIvane, d\u011bkuji za kontrolu a fotografie!
\nAbychom mohli podrobn\u011bji prozkoumat ot\u00e1zku, pro\u010d se v d\u011btsk\u00e9m re\u017eimu zpracov\u00e1vaj\u00ed podobn\u00e9 dotazy, pros\u00edm uve\u010fte, jak\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edkazy jste dali Alise.<\/p>\n

2020-04-07 15:56:27, Ivan
\nn\u00e1zev souboru \u2013 p\u0159\u00edkaz (nebo v\u00fdsledek)
\n01_IMG_20200407_172234<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 \"Alisa, najdi na internetu video Ori and the Blind Forest\"
\n02_IMG_20200407_172219<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 v\u00fdsledek p\u0159edchoz\u00edho dotazu
\n03_IMG_20200407_172158<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 video 1 p\u0159edchoz\u00edho dotazu
\n04_IMG_20200407_172224<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 video 1 p\u0159edchoz\u00edho dotazu
\n05_IMG_20200407_172105<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 \"Alisa, pus\u0165 doktora House\"
\n06_IMG_20200407_172533<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 \"Alisa, najdi na internetu video prank hr\u016fza\"
\n07_IMG_20200407_172837<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 \u201eAliso, najdi na internetu video s vra\u017edou\u201c (dotaz)
\n08_IMG_20200407_172907<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 \u201eAliso, najdi na internetu video s vra\u017edou\u201c (v\u00fdsledek)
\n09_IMG_20200407_172933<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 video 1 p\u0159edchoz\u00edho dotazu
\n10_IMG_20200407_172933<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 video z p\u0159edchoz\u00edho dotazu
\n11_IMG_20200407_172351<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 \u201eAliso, najdi na internetu video momo\u201c
\n12_IMG_20200407_172428<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 video 1 z p\u0159edchoz\u00edho dotazu
\n13_IMG_20200407_172944<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 foto informac\u00ed o stanici
\nrozd\u011blil podle \u201edotaz\u016f\u201c, soubory p\u0159ejmenoval pro pohodl\u00ed a znovu je p\u0159ipojil k e-mailu.
\n\/\/\u043f\u0440\u0438\u043c. \u043e\u0444\u043e\u0440\u043c\u0438\u043b \u0441\u0441\u044b\u043b\u043a\u0430\u043c\u0438 \u043d\u0430 \u0444\u043e\u0442\u043e<\/p>\n

\u00fat, 7. dubna 2020, 20:33 Yandex.Support
\nIvane, d\u011bkuji, \u017ee jste p\u0159ejmenoval fotografie a ozna\u010dil p\u0159\u00edkazy a v\u00fdsledky.
\nP\u0159edal jsem ve\u0161ker\u00e9 informace odpov\u011bdn\u00fdm specialist\u016fm. Pot\u0159ebujeme n\u011bjak\u00fd \u010das, abychom se dostali k p\u0159\u00ed\u010din\u011b vznikl\u00e9 situace a prozkoumali, pro\u010d Alisa zpracov\u00e1v\u00e1 p\u0159\u00edkazy a zobrazuje takov\u00e9 v\u00fdsledky.
\nJakmile budu m\u00edt novinky, ozvu se v\u00e1m!<\/p>\n

2020-04-12 15:24:41, Ivane
\nDobr\u00fd den! Jsou n\u011bjak\u00e9 novinky k m\u00e9 ot\u00e1zce?<\/p>\n

ne, 12. dubna 2020 ve 18:49, Yandex.Support
\nDobr\u00fd den, Ivane!
\nBohu\u017eel, zat\u00edm \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 novinky nem\u00e1me, na\u0161i specialist\u00e9 je\u0161t\u011b pracuj\u00ed na va\u0161\u00ed z\u00e1le\u017eitosti.
\nUr\u010dit\u011b v\u00e1m nap\u00ed\u0161u, a\u017e budu m\u00edt n\u011bjak\u00e9 informace!<\/p>\n

2020-04-20 17:3:17, Ivane
\nDobr\u00fd den! P\u0159ed dv\u011bma t\u00fddny jsem se obr\u00e1til s ot\u00e1zkou ohledn\u011b funkce, kterou tvrd\u00edte, \u017ee je z\u00e1kladn\u00ed, tedy v\u00fdchoz\u00ed dostupn\u00e1 k aktivaci a vyu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00ed.
\nD\u011btsk\u00fd re\u017eim m\u00e1te dokonce v reklam\u011b \u2014 p\u0159ed n\u011bkolika dny mi p\u0159i\u0161lo promo od v\u00e1s, kde je v titulku velk\u00fdmi p\u00edsmeny naps\u00e1no \u201e0+\u201c, co\u017e (jak se uk\u00e1zalo) neodpov\u00edd\u00e1 skute\u010dnosti.
\nPo\u017eadovan\u00e9 materi\u00e1ly (hlasov\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edkazy, screenshoty atd.) jsem poskytl.
\nPros\u00edm, vysv\u011btlete mi \u2014 pro\u010d se m\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka tak dlouho \u0159e\u0161\u00ed?<\/p>\n

po, 20. dubna 2020, 20:51 Yandex.Support
\nDobr\u00fd den, Ivane!
\nD\u011bkuji, \u017ee jste n\u00e1s informovali o t\u00e9to situaci.
\nV sou\u010dasnosti tento re\u017eim filtruje obsah tak, \u017ee nedovoluje zobrazen\u00ed tvrd\u00fdch vide\u00ed nebo vide\u00ed sexu\u00e1ln\u00edho obsahu.
\nP\u0159edal jsem va\u0161e pozn\u00e1mky specialist\u016fm. Budeme pracovat na zlep\u0161en\u00ed d\u011btsk\u00e9ho re\u017eimu.<\/p>\n

2020-04-20 18:6:47, Ivane
\nO t\u00e9to situaci jsem v\u00e1s informoval p\u0159ed dv\u011bma t\u00fddny. Te\u010f se pt\u00e1m, pro\u010d se m\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka \u0159e\u0161\u00ed tak dlouho.<\/p>\n

po, 20. dubna 2020, 21:42 Yandex.Support
\nIvane, ano, m\u00e1te pravdu.
\nSvou zpr\u00e1vou jsem cht\u011bl upozornit na to, \u017ee je pro n\u00e1s d\u016fle\u017eit\u00fd v\u00e1\u0161 n\u00e1zor. Ve\u0161ker\u00e9 informace byly ji\u017e p\u0159ed\u00e1ny odpov\u011bdn\u00fdm specialist\u016fm.
\nV sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b d\u011btsk\u00fd re\u017eim funguje takto, ale zaznamenali jsme v\u00e1\u0161 po\u017eadavek na vylep\u0161en\u00ed filtrov\u00e1n\u00ed obsahu v tomto re\u017eimu.
\nBohu\u017eel, nemohu \u0159\u00edct, kdy to bude realizov\u00e1no, ale v\u0161echno zaznamen\u00e1v\u00e1me a sna\u017e\u00edme se to uskute\u010dnit v budoucnu.<\/p>\n

2020-04-20 18:46:11, Ivan
\nTo je skv\u011bl\u00e9, ale pro\u010d vid\u00edm \u0161t\u00edtek 0+, kdy\u017e ve skute\u010dnosti nefunguje?<\/p>\n

2020-04-20 19:15:43, Yandex.Support
\nIvane, budu se o t\u00e9to ot\u00e1zce radit s kolegy. Jakmile dostanu odpov\u011b\u010f, spoj\u00edm se s v\u00e1mi.
\nPros\u00edm, po\u010dkejte na m\u016fj e-mail.<\/p>\n

\u00fat, 21. dubna 2020, 15:26, Yandex.Support
\nIlyo, d\u011bkuji za trp\u011blivost.
\nVideoklipy z p\u0159\u00edklad\u016f, kter\u00e9 jste uvedli, se nyn\u00ed pova\u017euj\u00ed za p\u0159\u00edpustn\u00e9 pro rodinn\u00fd re\u017eim.
\nPracujeme na p\u0159\u00edsn\u011bj\u0161\u00edch filtrech pro d\u011btsk\u00fd re\u017eim.
\n\/\/\u0442\u0443\u0442 \u044f \u0443\u0436\u0435 \u0418\u043b\u044c\u044f \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n

2020-04-21 12:52:12, Ivan
\nDovolte mi objasnit \u2014 kdo se pova\u017euje za p\u0159\u00edpustn\u00e9 pro 0+ video z p\u0159\u00edklad\u016f?
\nNena\u0161el jsem p\u0159\u00edsn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed omezen\u00ed (ne\u017e je nyn\u00ed nastavena) \u2014 tud\u00ed\u017e, soud\u011b podle reklamy, to je re\u017eim 0+.
\nVe Feder\u00e1ln\u00edm z\u00e1kon\u011b 436-FZ jsou jasn\u011b pops\u00e1ny v\u011bkov\u00e9 klasifikace a pro 0+ je jednozna\u010dn\u011b zak\u00e1z\u00e1no mat, n\u00e1sil\u00ed a horory.
\nOd m\u00e9ho prvn\u00edho kontaktu uplynuly dva t\u00fddny a nyn\u00ed p\u00ed\u0161ete jm\u00e9nem Yandexu, \u017ee to je p\u0159\u00edpustn\u00e9?
\nPokud si Yandex dovoluje ignorovat z\u00e1kon, mohu si dovolit ne\u017e\u00e1dat, ale po\u017eadovat, aby se touto z\u00e1le\u017eitost\u00ed okam\u017eit\u011b zab\u00fdvali.
\nYandex m\u00e1 p\u0159esn\u011b jeden den od odesl\u00e1n\u00ed m\u00e9ho dopisu k oprav\u011b d\u011btsk\u00e9ho re\u017eimu podle mnou uveden\u00fdch p\u0159\u00edklad\u016f.
\nPokud nedojde k oprav\u00e1m \u2014 budou n\u00e1sledovat \u017e\u00e1dosti a \u010dl\u00e1nky ode m\u011b na Roskomnadzor, Sportloto, Pikabu, Habr a televizn\u00ed stanici RenTV.
\nD\u011bkuji za pozornost, \u010das b\u011b\u017e\u00ed.<\/p>\n

\u00fat, 21. dubna 2020, 17:49 Yandex.Support
\nIlyo, rozum\u00edm v\u00e1m. Bohu\u017eel, v tak kr\u00e1tk\u00fdch lh\u016ft\u00e1ch nen\u00ed mo\u017en\u00e9 uskute\u010dnit zm\u011bny v slo\u017eit\u00e9m procesu filtrov\u00e1n\u00ed obsahu. Ale p\u0159ednesl jsem v\u00e1\u0161 dopis odpov\u011bdn\u00fdm osob\u00e1m. Nap\u00ed\u0161u, jakmile budou novinky!<\/p>\n

21. dubna 2020, 17:55, Ivan
\nP\u00e1nov\u00e9, m\u011bli jste dva t\u00fddny.
\nPo \u010dem\u017e jste mi sd\u011blili, \u017ee tento obsah je p\u0159\u00edpustn\u00fd. Bohu\u017eel, ale j\u00e1 (a feder\u00e1ln\u00ed z\u00e1kon) s v\u00e1mi nesouhlas\u00edm.
\n\u010cekat je\u0161t\u011b dva t\u00fddny?) D\u011bkuji, u\u017e jsem \u010dekal.
\n\u010cas jsem ozn\u00e1mil, zbytek z\u00e1vis\u00ed na v\u00e1s.
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A to nen\u00ed st\u00ed\u017enost. Na osobn\u00ed probl\u00e9my si st\u011b\u017eovat m\u016f\u017eeme, ale u probl\u00e9m\u016f s psychikou se m\u016f\u017ee dostavit jak\u00fdkoli n\u00e1hodn\u00fd d\u00edt\u011b, kter\u00e9 um\u00ed mluvit s Yandex. Stanic\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Douf\u00e1m, \u017ee osv\u011btlen\u00ed probl\u00e9mu pom\u016f\u017ee zlep\u0161it filtraci YS, a rodi\u010de se tak dozv\u011bd\u00ed o nebezpe\u010dn\u00e9 hra\u010dce.<\/p>\n

A ano, rozhodn\u011b kontaktuji RKN.<\/p>\n

UPD: Odpov\u011b\u010f Yandexu v koment\u00e1\u0159\u00edch<\/a><\/noindex>
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