{"id":54524,"date":"2019-12-28T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-12-27T21:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/blog_prohoster\/podvedeny-itogi-golosovaniya-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian"},"modified":"2020-02-18T14:02:32","modified_gmt":"2020-02-18T11:02:32","slug":"podvedeny-itogi-golosovaniya-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/da\/blog\/news\/podvedeny-itogi-golosovaniya-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian","title":{"rendered":"Afstemningsresultaterne om init-systemer i Debian er blevet opsummeret","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel\/2019\/12\/msg00212.html\">Publiceret<\/a><\/noindex> resultater <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.debian.org\/vote\/2019\/vote_002\">af en generel afstemning<\/a><\/noindex> (GR, generel resoluion) for udviklerne af Debian-projektet, der deltager i vedligeholdelsen af pakker og infrastrukturen, blev der afholdt om st\u00f8tte til flere initieringssystemer. Det andet punkt (&#171;B&#187;) i listen vandt \u2014 systemd forbliver den foretrukne, men muligheden for at vedligeholde alternative initieringssystemer er stadig til stede. Afstemningen blev gennemf\u00f8rt ved hj\u00e6lp af metoden <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/ru.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%81_%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B5#%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BF_%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B5\">Kondorcet<\/a><\/noindex>, hvor hver v\u00e6lger rangerer alle muligheder i r\u00e6kkef\u00f8lge af deres pr\u00e6ferencer, og n\u00e5r resultatet beregnes, tages der hensyn til, hvor mange v\u00e6lgere der foretr\u00e6kker en mulighed frem for en anden.<\/p>\n<p>Den vindende mulighed anerkender, at serviceenhederne i systemd er den foretrukne m\u00e5de at konfigurere opstart af d\u00e6moner og tjenester p\u00e5, men tillader, at der findes milj\u00f8er, hvor udviklere og brugere kan skabe og anvende alternative init-systemer og funktionelle alternativer til systemds muligheder. Udviklere af alternative l\u00f8sninger har brug for ressourcer til at udf\u00f8re deres arbejde og formatere pakker. Alternative l\u00f8sninger som elogind, der anvendes til at organisere opstart af applikationer knyttet til systemd-specifikke gr\u00e6nseflader, forbliver vigtige for projektet. St\u00f8tte til s\u00e5danne initiativer kr\u00e6ver samarbejde p\u00e5 omr\u00e5der, hvor de udviklede alternative teknologier krydser med resten af projektet, for eksempel er det uacceptabelt at forsinke gennemgangen af patches og gennemf\u00f8re diskussioner.<\/p>\n<p>Pakkerne kan inkludere b\u00e5de unit-filer fra systemd og init-scripts til opstart af tjenester. Pakkerne kan anvende alle funktioner i systemd, som pakken f\u00f8lger \u00f8nsker, forudsat at disse funktioner overholder Debian-reglerne og ikke er bundet til eksperimentelle eller ikke-underst\u00f8ttede funktioner fra andre pakker. Udover systemd kan pakkerne ogs\u00e5 inkludere st\u00f8tte til alternative initialiseringssystemer og levere komponenter til at erstatte systemd-specifikke gr\u00e6nseflader. Beslutninger om inklusion af patches tr\u00e6ffes af pakkevedligeholdere i henhold til de g\u00e6ldende procedurer. Debian er forpligtet til at arbejde sammen med afledte distributioner, der har valgt andre initialiseringssystemer, men interaktionen er baseret p\u00e5 niveauet for vedligeholdere, som tr\u00e6ffer beslutninger om, hvilke funktioner, der er forberedt af tredjepartsdistributioner, der skal tages ind i den prim\u00e6re Debian-distro, og hvilke der skal forblive i den afledte distribution.<\/p>\n<p>Vi minder om, at den tekniske komit\u00e9 i 2014  <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=39064\">godkendte<\/a><\/noindex> <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=38762\">overgangen<\/a><\/noindex> af distributionen som standard til systemd, men ikke <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=39224\">udviklede<\/a><\/noindex> beslutninger vedr\u00f8rende st\u00f8tte til flere initialiseringssystemer (der blev ved afstemning stemt for den mulighed, der angav kommittens manglende parathed til at tr\u00e6ffe beslutning om dette emne). Komiteens leder anbefalede pakkevedligeholderne at bevare underst\u00f8ttelsen af sysvinit som et alternativt initialiseringssystem, men p\u00e5pegede, at han ikke kan p\u00e5tvinge sin mening, og at beslutningen i hvert tilf\u00e6lde b\u00f8r tr\u00e6ffes uafh\u00e6ngigt. <\/p>\n<p>Efter dette fors\u00f8gte nogle udviklere <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=41088\">at gennemf\u00f8re<\/a><\/noindex> en generel afstemning, men den f\u00f8rste afstemning viste, at der ikke var behov for at tr\u00e6ffe en beslutning om brugen af flere init-systemer. For nogle m\u00e5neder siden, efter <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=51517\">problemer<\/a><\/noindex> inkluderingen af pakken elogind (n\u00f8dvendig for at f\u00e5 GNOME til at fungere uden systemd) i testing-grenen p\u00e5 grund af konflikt med libsystemd, blev sp\u00f8rgsm\u00e5let taget op igen af Debian-projektlederen, da udviklerne ikke kunne blive enige, og deres kommunikation udviklede sig til modstand og er n\u00e5et en blindgyde. <\/p>\n<p>Overvejede muligheder:<\/p>\n<li class=\"l\"> Fokus ligger p\u00e5 systemd. At give support til alternative init-systemer er ikke en prioritet, men vedligeholdere kan valgfrit inkludere init-scripts for s\u00e5danne systemer i pakkerne.\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> Systemd forbliver foretrukket, men der gives mulighed for vedligeholdelse af alternative init-systemer. Teknologier som elogind, der g\u00f8r det muligt at k\u00f8re applikationer bundet til systemd i alternative milj\u00f8er, betragtes som vigtige. Init-filer til alternative systemer kan inkluderes i pakker.\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> Support for forskellige init-systemer og mulighed for at starte Debian med init-systemer, der adskiller sig fra systemd.<br \/>\nFor at starte tjenester skal pakker n\u00f8dvendigvis inkludere init-scripts; det er ikke acceptabelt kun at levere unit-filer for systemd uden sysv init-scripts.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> Support for systems that do not use systemd, without making changes that hinder development. Developers agree to support multiple initialization systems in the foreseeable future, but also believe it is essential to work on improving support for systemd. Development and maintenance of specific solutions should be handled by the communities interested in such solutions, but other maintainers should actively assist and facilitate problem-solving when necessary. Ideally, packages should function with any initialization system, which may involve providing traditional init scripts or using other mechanisms that allow operation without systemd. The inability to operate without systemd is viewed as a mistake, but not as a release-blocking issue, except in cases where a ready solution for operation without systemd exists but is refused to be maintained (for example, when the problem is caused by the removal of a previously provided init script).\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> St\u00f8tte til b\u00e6rbarhed uden \u00e6ndringer, der hindrer udviklingen. Debian forts\u00e6tter med at blive betragtet som et bindeled til integration af forskellig software, der leverer tilsvarende eller lignende funktionalitet. B\u00e6rbarhed mellem hardwareplatforme og softwarestakke er en vigtig opgave, og integration af alternative teknologier er velkommen, selvom skaberne af dem m\u00e5tte have en anden opfattelse end den generelle mening. Holdningen til systemd og andre init-systemer stemmer fuldst\u00e6ndigt overens med punkt 4.\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> Overf\u00f8rsel af st\u00f8tte til flere init-systemer til obligatorisk status. Muligheden for at k\u00f8re Debian med init-systemer, der er forskellige fra systemd, forts\u00e6tter med at have betydning for projektet. Hver pakke skal fungere med pid1-h\u00e5ndterere, der ikke er systemd, undtagen i de tilf\u00e6lde, hvor den pakke, der er inkluderet, er designet til at fungere udelukkende med systemd, og der ikke er st\u00f8tte til k\u00f8rsel uden systemd (mangel p\u00e5 init-scripts betragtes ikke som en hensigt udelukkende til brug med systemd).\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> St\u00f8tte til b\u00e6rbarhed og flere implementeringer. De generelle principper er fuldst\u00e6ndigt i overensstemmelse med punkt 5, men der stilles ikke specifikke krav vedr\u00f8rende systemd og init-systemerne, og der p\u00e5l\u00e6gges ingen forpligtelser p\u00e5 udviklerne. Udviklerne opfordres til at tage hensyn til hinandens interesser, indg\u00e5 kompromiser og finde f\u00e6lles l\u00f8sninger, der er tilfredsstillende for forskellige parter.\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> Forts\u00e6ttelse af diskussionen. 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