Take your children away from our blue screens, or why you shouldn't buy Yandex.Station for a child

About two weeks ago, I contacted Yandex technical support regarding video filtering in children's mode.

To be honest, the desire to appeal about content inappropriate for children arose before, but as is usually the case, it was postponed until later.

Besides, it's Yandex! He knows best what you wanted to find.

As it turned out - not better.

Take your children away from our blue screens, or why you shouldn't buy Yandex.Station for a child

Notice the kid mode icon on the top right.

It was this screensaver - about profanity and 18+ that I saw when I tried to turn on the video of the passage of a beautiful toy from MS to the child, by the way - a 6+ toy.

Of course, there were other options for spoons, but the sediment remained.

A little background - why did I suddenly decide to apply to the TP.

A child (7 years old) is not alien to the computer and gadgets, but is not a fan of them either.

He likes to draw, and usually, with the help of Alice, looking at the monitor, he tries to repeat what is taught in master classes, listens to music, dances and sings.

He always handles a piece of iron quite correctly, and if a question arises, he often tries to figure out the incomprehensible on his own. Of course, we, as parents, will always explain and tell, but the child is also interested in another point of view, which is generally correct. But as it turned out - not in this case.

A child should have personal time and personal space, and a closed door for an hour or two a day did not bother me at all - he watches cartoons, draws - what could be wrong?

Until she came up and said "I'm scared."

Somewhere I came across horror stories that even some adults should not watch. Maybe Alice incorrectly recognized the request, maybe the girlfriends told something - and here is the result.

Take your children away from our blue screens, or why you shouldn't buy Yandex.Station for a child

A wonderful video in children's mode directly from Yandex - from its video hosting, right?
After watching "this" for a couple of minutes, I decided to contact the TP without delay - after all, such a gesture in children's mode is unacceptable and hoping that the guys "just twist the filters." But there would be no article if everything was so simple.

I'll run ahead - so that you can not read the sheet of correspondence with the TP.
In a nutshell: there are no filters. We (Yandex) believe that everything is OK.

The child will see everything for which the age limit is not forcibly (by moderators or video uploaders). For YouTube and Yandex, which send the main content to the station, this means that almost any video is available. re-upload any video without bothering to set restrictions. All TV news channels on hostings are available (although it's time to set 16+ for news).

There is not even filtering by query keywords.

sheet of correspondence with TP
2020-04-07 13:37:40, Иван
Subject: Another question
Question on: Filtering videos in kids mode
Hello!
In the settings of the station, children's mode is enabled, but, as far as I understand, filtering is performed only by keywords.
As a result, there is often a video on the screen, which for a seven-year-old child is an unambiguous β€œtin”. Such content is regularly found on YouTube and Yandex.video.
Please tell me how can I solve this problem.

Tue, 7 Apr 2020, 17:03 Yandex.Support
Hello Ivan!
First of all, please, let's make sure that you have configured the filtering mode in the corresponding section of the Yandex app: menu (⊞) -> Devices -> Account -> Search Mode.
Is that all right?
In this case, please specify on which resource the videos are played?
Could you please provide an example of such a video?
I will wait for your answer.

2020-04-07 14:44:36, Иван
Hello.
The first photo is the result of an attempt to turn on Dr. House from the home screen (failure). That is, the children's mode is turned on.
Well and further - all other requests.
A separate request β€” please comment why the request for a video with the keyword 'murder(s)' generally works in child mode.
//note I have attached a bunch of photos here.

Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 18:32, Yandex.Support
Ivan, thanks for checking and photos!
So that we can study in more detail the question of why such requests are processed in child mode, please clarify what commands you gave Alice.

2020-04-07 15:56:27, Иван
file name - command (or result)
01_img_20200407_172234 - β€œAlice, find on the Internet a video of ori and the blind forest”
02_img_20200407_172219 - the result of the previous query
03_img_20200407_172158 - video 1 of the previous request
04_img_20200407_172224 - video 1 of the previous request
05_img_20200407_172105 - "Alice, turn on Dr. House"
06_img_20200407_172533 - β€œAlice, find a video prank tin on the Internet”
07_img_20200407_172837 - β€œAlice, find a video of the murder on the Internet” (request)
08_img_20200407_172907 - β€œAlice, find a video of the murder on the Internet” (result)
09_img_20200407_172933 - video 1 of the previous request
10_img_20200407_172933 - video 2 of the previous request
11_img_20200407_172351 - β€œAlice, find a video of momo on the Internet”
12_img_20200407_172428 - video 1 from the previous request
13_img_20200407_172944 – station info photo
divided by "requests", renamed the files for convenience and attached to the letter again.
//note provided links to photos

Tue, 7 Apr 2020, 20:33 Yandex.Support
Ivan, thank you for renaming the photos and signing the teams and results.
Passed all the information to the responsible specialists. We will need some time to understand the reason for this situation and to study why Alice processes commands and shows such results.
As soon as I have news, I will contact you!

2020-04-12 15:24:41, Иван
Hello! any news on my issue?

Sun, Apr 12 2020 at 18:49, Yandex.Support
Hello Ivan!
Alas, there is no news yet, our specialists are still working on your issue.
I will definitely write to you when I have information!

2020-04-20 17:3:17, Иван
Hello! Two weeks ago, I asked about the functionality that you declare as basic, that is, by default, available for inclusion and use.
You even have a children's mode in advertising - most recently I received a promo from you, where β€œ0+” is written in big letters in the title, which (as it turned out) is not true.
I provided the materials you requested (voice commands, screen shots, etc.).
Please explain to me why it takes so long to resolve my issue?

Mon, 20 Apr 2020, 20:51 Yandex.Support
Hello Ivan!
Thank you for letting us know about this situation.
Currently, this mode filters content in such a way that it does not allow the display of hard videos or videos of sexual content.
I have forwarded your comments to the experts. We will work on improving the children's mode.

2020-04-20 18:6:47, Иван
I reported this situation two weeks ago. Now I ask why the issue is being resolved for so long.

Mon, 20 Apr 2020, 21:42 Yandex.Support
Ivan, yes, you are right.
With my message, I wanted to draw attention to the fact that your opinion is important to us. All information has already been transferred to the responsible specialists.
This is currently how children's mode works, but we've taken note of your request for better content filtering in this mode.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to suggest when this will be implemented, but we are recording everything and trying to implement it in the future.

2020-04-20 18:46:11, Иван
That's great, but why do I see a 0+ label in the present if it doesn't actually work?

2020-04-20 19:15:43, Yandex.Support
Ivan, I will consult on this issue with colleagues. As soon as I receive a response, I will contact you.
Please wait for my letter.

Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 15:26, Yandex.Support
Ilya, thanks for waiting.
The videos from the examples you provided are currently considered valid for family mode.
Right now we are working on harder filters for kids mode.
// here I am already Ilya πŸ™‚

2020-04-21 12:52:12, Иван
Let me clarify - by whom are the videos from the examples considered acceptable for 0+?
I did not find any more severe restrictions (than they are now set) - therefore, judging by the advertisement, this is the 0+ mode.
The Federal Law 436-FZ clearly describes age classifications and for 0+ mats, violence and horror stories are clearly prohibited.
Two weeks have passed since my first appeal, and now you are writing on behalf of Yandex, that this is acceptable?
Since Yandex allows itself to spit on the Federal Law, I can quite afford not to ask, but to demand that this issue be dealt with immediately.
Yandex has exactly one day from the moment of sending my letter to correct the child mode according to the examples I have given.
If there are no corrections, appeals and articles from me to Roskomnadzor, Sportloto, Pikabu, Habr and the RenTV channel will follow.
Thank you for your attention, the time has come.

Tue, 21 Apr 2020, 17:49 Yandex.Support
Ilya, I understand you. Alas, in such a short time it will not be possible to make changes to the complex process of content filtering. But I have forwarded your letter to those responsible. I'll post as soon as there's news!

21 Apr. 2020, 17:55, Ivan
Gentlemen, you've had two weeks.
Then you told me that this content is acceptable. Alas, I (and federal law) disagree with you.
Wait another two weeks?) Thanks, I've already waited.
I have given the time, the rest is up to you.
// I think, reading this article, it has already become clear to you that there is no result

And no, this is not a complaint. You can complain about personal problems, but here any random child who can speak with Yandex.Station can have mental problems.

I hope the coverage of the problem will help to improve the filtering of the JS, and parents will be aware of the dangerous toy.

And yes, I will definitely write to the RKN.

UPD: Yandex answer in the comments

Source: habr.com

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