{"id":52665,"date":"2019-11-14T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-11-13T21:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/blog_prohoster\/intervyu-s-mihailom-chinkovym-o-rabote-i-zhizni-v-berline"},"modified":"2020-02-18T14:00:27","modified_gmt":"2020-02-18T11:00:27","slug":"intervyu-s-mihailom-chinkovym-o-rabote-i-zhizni-v-berline","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/en\/blog\/administrirovanie\/intervyu-s-mihailom-chinkovym-o-rabote-i-zhizni-v-berline","title":{"rendered":"An Interview with Mikhail Chinkov About Work and Life in Berlin","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"

Mikhail Chinkov has been living and working in Berlin for two years. He shared insights on how a developer's job differs in Russia and Germany, the demand for DevOps engineers in Berlin, and how to find time for travel. <\/p>\n

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About moving <\/b><\/h3>\n

\nYou've been living in Berlin since 2018. How did you make that decision? Did you consciously choose the country and company where you wanted to work, or did you receive an offer you couldn\u2019t refuse?
\n<\/b>
\nAt one point, I got tired of living in Penza, where I was born, grew up, and studied at university, and the standard path of moving to Moscow and St. Petersburg did not attract me due to the lifestyle in those cities. Therefore, I just wanted to try living in Europe, which I had visited during my last couple of vacations. I had no preferences for the company, city, or even the specific country\u2014I just wanted to move as quickly as possible.<\/p>\n

At that moment, I considered Berlin to be the most accessible city for a developer to relocate to a tech company, as 90% of the companies on LinkedIn that were open to relocation were based in Berlin. Subsequently, I flew to the city for 3 days to conduct a couple of face-to-face interviews. I really liked the city, so I decided that I wanted to live in Berlin right away. A week later, I promptly accepted the first offer I received from a Berlin tech hub.<\/p>\n

Please tell me more about the relocation process. How did it go for you? What documents did you gather? Did your employer help? <\/b><\/p>\n

There's nothing new I can add; everything has been well documented in several articles. I like more the version from Vasrik's blog<\/a><\/noindex>, which is known to everyone interested in this topic. In the Berlin tech hub, the process is practically the same in all companies that assist engineers with relocation.<\/p>\n

Did you encounter anything unexpected or unusual regarding work organization, daily life, or mentality? How long did it take you to adapt to local life?<\/b><\/p>\n

Yes, actually, the entire work process in the companies of the Berlin tech hub shocked me at first. Everything: from how and how many meetings take place to the role of soft skills in an engineer's life. <\/p>\n

For example, in Germany, the work culture is oriented towards collective decision-making, which means that literally for every contentious issue, a meeting is held where you thoroughly discuss the problem and together reach a consensus from your viewpoints. From a Russian perspective, this practice initially seems like a waste of time, bureaucracy, and distrust. However, in the end, it makes sense, just like the distribution of responsibility for the outcome of the decision.<\/p>\n

Such moments, along with the misunderstanding of oneself by colleagues, pushed me to read the book \u2018The Culture Map\u2019<\/a><\/noindex> and realize that all your internal frustrations are more of a refusal to perceive the reality of the new environment you find yourself in, rather than an attempt to find the truth. After reading the book, working became much easier; you begin to understand the meaning of the phrases and decisions your colleagues make.<\/p>\n

In terms of life, the process of adapting to a new country is significantly more complex than adapting to the work culture. Typically, psychologists highlight four stages of immigration<\/a><\/noindex>, through which a person goes. In this regard, my journey was no exception. On the other hand, it seems to me that adapting to a multicultural hub like Berlin, London, or Barcelona is inherently easier than in any traditional city.<\/p>\n

After two years of living in Berlin, what do you like and dislike about this city?<\/b><\/p>\n

It\u2019s hard for me to compile a list of pros and cons of the city because Berlin quickly became my home in every sense of the word.<\/p>\n

I think I have been striving for freedom in all its manifestations throughout my conscious life: physical, social, financial, political, spiritual, and mental. Including that same freedom in work; I dislike top-down control and micromanagement, where I am constantly told what and how to do things. In these matters, Berlin seemed and still seems to me to be one of the freest cities in the world due to its open views on life in society, relatively liberal rental prices, and other necessities, as well as the multitude of opportunities to enhance my freedom in other areas.<\/p>\n

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About working in Berlin<\/b><\/h3>\n

\nWhat tech stack is standard in Berlin startups? How does it differ from the average one in Russia?<\/b><\/p>\n

From a technological perspective, local stacks seem somewhat boring to me, except when it comes to FinTech companies. Most startups and those that have transitioned from startup to enterprise were founded between 2010 and 2012 and started with the simplest architecture: a monolithic backend, sometimes with an integrated frontend, using either Ruby, PHP, or Python, along with mandatory frameworks, with a MySQL database and Redis for caching. Also, in my personal experience, 90% of companies have their entire production on AWS. <\/p>\n

Currently, everyone tends to break the monolith into microservices, wrap them in containers, deploy them in Kubernetes, and rely on Golang as the standard language for new applications. This is happening quite slowly, so in most companies, the main functionality is still buried in the monolith. I'm not very familiar with frontend development, but there, React is typically the standard. <\/p>\n

Large tech companies like Zalando and N26 are trying to bring more technology into their services to attract driven developers in the market. Other tech companies also strive to keep up with the latest technologies, however, it's apparent that they are burdened by the weight of monolithic architecture and the accumulating technical debt over the years.<\/p>\n

As an engineer, I perceive this quite calmly, as there are many interesting companies from a product perspective in Berlin's tech hub. In such companies, it's more enjoyable to work for an idea and a product you personally like than to see the company merely as a place with a fashionable tech stack that one must necessarily work with.<\/p>\n

How does life and work as a developer differ in Russia and Germany? Are there any things that surprised you?<\/b><\/p>\n

In Germany, as in any other country in Northern\/Central Europe, the situation with work\/life balance and relationships between colleagues is better, but the speed of work tends to be slower. I initially found it uncomfortable to adapt to internal projects that take a couple of months when similar projects in tech companies in Russia took a couple of weeks. In reality, this is not alarming, as there are objective reasons for it, and companies usually do not perceive such situations critically.<\/p>\n

Otherwise, I find it quite difficult to draw parallels between Germany and Russia because I don't have experience working in well-known companies like Yandex and Tinkoff, where the situation might be similar to Berlin's tech hub. <\/p>\n

I have noticed that in Berlin, creating a comfortable work atmosphere in companies, regular internal events, and the diversity of colleagues who are always interesting to talk to about topics outside of IT are prioritized. But I think this depends more on the company you work for rather than the country.<\/p>\n

Based on your observations, what specialists are in demand in Germany? Are DevOps professionals sought after?<\/b><\/p>\n

In most companies, there is a problem with the perception of DevOps culture and understanding what DevOps actually is. However, there are many job openings with the prefix DevOps, which clearly shows the demand for specialists in the market. <\/p>\n

At the moment, all currently relevant fields are equally in demand in local IT. I can only highlight a particularly high demand for Data Engineers\/Data Analysts.<\/p>\n

Let's talk about salaries; how much can a DevOps engineer realistically earn in Germany?
\n<\/b>
\nIt\u2019s difficult to answer this question because IT is still a young industry where there are no specific norms regarding salaries. As everywhere, the salary size largely depends on the engineer's work experience and qualifications. It's also important to consider the figure as a gross salary before taxes and various social\/insurance deductions. Additionally, salaries in Germany vary significantly depending on the city you work in. In Berlin, Munich, Frankfurt, and a typical G\u00f6ttingen, the salary ranges differ from one another, as do the living costs.<\/p>\n

Speaking of Berlin, the main advantage for a career is that the demand for engineers still exceeds supply, so salaries can rise quickly if desired. The main downside is that most companies lack a clear policy for salary reviews, as well as criteria for assessing contributions to the product being developed by the company.<\/p>\n

You can check the figures in the latest survey on Germany<\/a><\/noindex>, StackOverflow, or Glassdoor<\/a><\/noindex>. The statistics are updated year by year, so I cannot take responsibility for discussing the salary range.<\/p>\n

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\nCan you give some advice on what to do if you're a hypothetical Site Reliability Engineer wanting to move to Germany? Where to start? Where to go?<\/b><\/p>\n

I don't think I have any unique advice for the readers. Perhaps just to not be afraid, to rationalize less before moving, and to be open to all the challenges that may arise during immigration. Challenges will come.<\/p>\n

Is there a strong DevOps community in Berlin? Do you often attend local events? Tell me a bit about them. What are they like?<\/b><\/p>\n

I attend meetups quite rarely, so I can't really say what the specifics of the local DevOps community are. I hope to catch up on this next year. I can only share my impressions of the huge number of thematic groups on meetup.com, from Python and Golang enthusiasts to fans of Clojure and Rust.<\/p>\n

Of the meetups I've attended, the HashiCorp User Group is quite good \u2014 but I mostly like the HashiCorp community as a whole, with its groups in different cities.<\/p>\n

I read that you moved without knowing German. How have things been after a year? Is German necessary for work, or can you get by without it?<\/b><\/p>\n

I've learned German; my language level is currently between B1 and B2. All my contacts with Germans from my first year in Berlin are still in English because it's easier for both sides, and I start all new contacts in German. My upcoming plans include advancing my studies and solidifying my knowledge by taking the B2 certificate exam, as I want to communicate more confidently and read classical literature in the original.<\/p>\n

In Berlin, the language is more necessary for adapting to the country, gaining a sense of inner comfort, and having full access to leisure activities (theater\/cinema\/stand-ups). However, the language is unlikely to be needed in Software Engineering work. In every company, English is the official language of the Engineering department, even in large German companies like Deutsche Bank, Allianz, and Volkswagen.<\/p>\n

The main reason is the labor shortage, the city's status as an international cultural center, and the many expats who have difficulties learning the German language. Nevertheless, each company offers weekly German courses during working hours, funded by the organization, to make life easier for employees outside of work.<\/p>\n

In all my two years of interactions with companies and recruiters, I have been approached in German only twice. In such exceptional cases, a level of B1\/B2 is usually sufficient for work. Like Americans with English, Germans tend to be quite forgiving of your speech errors, as they understand that the language is not easy.<\/p>\n

In your Telegram channel<\/a><\/noindex> you write that DevOps is not just about knowing how to work with Kubernetes and Prometheus, but rather about culture. In your opinion, what should companies do to develop a DevOps culture in the team not just in words but in practice? What are you doing in your own case? <\/b><\/p>\n

I think, first and foremost, it is important to be honest and clarify the distribution of product responsibility. The main issue that DevOps addresses is the transfer of responsibility and the related problems over the wall. As soon as people realize that sharing responsibility is beneficial for both the company and the engineers, things start to progress, and one can focus on specific tasks: fine-tuning the Delivery Pipeline, reducing Deployment Failure Rate, and other metrics that can define the state of DevOps in the company.<\/p>\n

In my career, I have not promoted DevOps as a tech lead or CTO of a company; I have always spoken from the perspective of an engineer who knows something about DevOps. In fact, in DevOps, the role of the culture driver is indeed crucial, especially the sphere of influence of the driver and their leadership qualities. In my last company, there was initially a relatively flat hierarchy and an atmosphere of trust among colleagues, which significantly eased my goal of promoting culture.<\/p>\n

Answering the specific question of what can be done for the benefit of DevOps. In my presentation at DevOpsDays<\/a><\/noindex> the main point is that to develop a DevOps culture, one needs to focus not only on technologies in the infrastructure but also on internal coaching and the distribution of responsibilities in technical processes. <\/p>\n

For example, we spent two months of one engineer's work creating a platform for QA and PR servers for the needs of developers and testers. However, all this amazing work will go to waste if the capabilities are not communicated correctly, the features are not documented, and staff training is not completed. Conversely, after quality workshops and pair programming sessions, a motivated engineer is inspired by the new useful functionality and begins to tackle the next issues that intersect with the infrastructure platform.<\/p>\n

If you want more questions about DevOps, here is an interview<\/a><\/noindex>, in which Misha answers questions like 'Why is DevOps needed?' and 'Should companies create dedicated DevOps departments?'<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

<\/p>\n

About development<\/b><\/h3>\n

\nOn your channel, you sometimes recommend professional articles and blogs. Do you have any favorite artistic books?<\/b><\/p>\n

Yes, I try to find time to read fiction. I can\u2019t read a specific author in one go, one novel after another, so I mix Russian and foreign works. Among Russian writers, I prefer Pelevin and Dovlatov, but I also enjoy reading 19th-century classics. From foreign authors, I admire Remarque and Hemingway.<\/p>\n

You also write a lot about traveling, and in your 2018 summary, you mentioned that you visited 12 countries and 27 cities. That\u2019s an impressive point! How do you manage to work and travel?<\/b> <\/p>\n

In fact, it's quite simple: you need to effectively utilize vacation days, weekends, and holidays, plus actively travel during trips \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n

I am not a digital nomad and have never worked remotely on a permanent basis, but I feel I have enough free time for travel outside of work to explore the world. The situation improved after moving to Berlin: it's located in the center of Europe and offers more vacation days.<\/p>\n

I also tried traveling for an entire month between old and new jobs, but for me, even a month on the road feels like too long. From that trip, I try to take vacations lasting a week to a week and a half, to be able to return to work relatively painlessly.<\/p>\n

Which three places did you like the most and why?<\/b><\/p>\n

As a backpacker from the countries I resonate with the most are Portugal, Oman, and India. Portugal appeals to me for its European history and civilization, such as architecture, language, and culture. Oman impresses with the incredible hospitality and friendliness of the locals, as well as the atmosphere of relative relaxation amidst the tension in the Middle East. I even wrote a separate article<\/a><\/noindex> about Oman. India fascinates me with the diversity of life within its regions and cultural identity, as the era of Starbucks and the galaxy of Microsoft, as bequeathed by Palahniuk, has not yet reached them. I also really like Bangkok and the northern part of Thailand. The southern part with its seas, islands, and peninsulas seemed a bit too touristy.<\/p>\n

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\nYou can read Misha's travel notes on his Telegram channel A Clockwork Orange<\/a><\/noindex><\/i><\/p>\n

How do you maintain work\/life balance? Share your secrets \ud83d\ude42<\/b><\/p>\n

I don't have any particular secret here. Whether in Russia or Germany, normal tech companies give you the opportunity to structure your working hours as you see fit. Usually, I don\u2019t stay at work late into the night if the service is running smoothly and there\u2019s no force majeure. Just because after 5-6 PM, my brain doesn\u2019t respond to calls to action at all and asks for a rest and a good sleep.<\/p>\n

Almost all professions in the tech industry \u2014 from development to design \u2014 are creative professions that do not require long working hours. I believe that crunches are generally harmful to creative work, because in the end you start to slow down and produce less than you could without overwork. 4-6 hours of active work in flow is actually quite a lot; without interruptions and context switching, you can move mountains.<\/p>\n

I can also recommend two books that have helped me: It Doesn\u2019t Have to Be Crazy at Work<\/a><\/noindex> by the folks at Basecamp and The Jedi Techniques<\/a><\/noindex> by Maxim Dorofeev.<\/p>\n

Many are discussing burnout nowadays. Have you felt anything similar? If so, how do you cope? How do you make your work more interesting?<\/b><\/p>\n

Yes, honestly, I still experience burnout from time to time. In general, it makes sense; philosophically speaking, everything that has the property to burn ultimately burns out \ud83d\ude42 You can fight the symptoms, but I believe it\u2019s much more important to identify the root causes of burnout and address them. <\/p>\n

The reasons vary for everyone: for some, it's an overload of information, others might be overworking in their primary job, and there are situations where you physically cannot manage to balance work, hobbies, and social life. Sometimes, you just don\u2019t feel any new challenges in your life, which can lead to anxiety. Most problems can be resolved by reevaluating your life philosophy, personal values, and the role of work in your life.<\/p>\n

Recently, I hardly ever lose interest in my work or find it dull. There are various techniques to make tedious work more engaging; I\u2019ve gathered some of them from a blog<\/a><\/noindex> by my friend Kirill Shiringin. However, I try to tackle this issue at its root by choosing work that offers maximum challenges for my career and personal growth, with minimal organizational bureaucracy.<\/p>\n

On December 7, Mikhail will speak at the conference DevOpsDays Moscow<\/a><\/noindex> with a presentation titled \"We Are All DevOps,\" where he will explain why it\u2019s important to focus not only on how to deploy the latest stack but also on the cultural aspect of DevOps.<\/p>\n

Also on the agenda: Baruch Sadogursky (JFrog), Alexander Chistyakov (vdsina.ru), Roman Boyko (AWS), Pavel Selivanov (Southbridge), Rodion Nagornov (Kaspersky Lab), Andrey Shorin (DevOps Consultant).<\/p>\n

Come by to meet us!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Source: habr.com<\/a><\/p>","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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