{"id":53262,"date":"2019-11-27T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-11-26T21:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/blog_prohoster\/hp-vash-originalnyj-disk-sovsem-ne-originalen-kto-vinovat-i-chto-delat"},"modified":"2020-02-18T14:01:09","modified_gmt":"2020-02-18T11:01:09","slug":"hp-vash-originalnyj-disk-sovsem-ne-originalen-kto-vinovat-i-chto-delat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/en\/blog\/administrirovanie\/hp-vash-originalnyj-disk-sovsem-ne-originalen-kto-vinovat-i-chto-delat","title":{"rendered":"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When dealing with hardware, whether consumer or business segments \u2014 it doesn't matter, it\u2019s hard to imagine anything that generates as much \"love and adoration\" for the manufacturer as \"white lists\" of compatible equipment and consumables.<\/p>\n<p>Everything seems fine: there are no obstacles to the device's functioning, but upon connection, we receive something like \"your device is not supported, I don't want to work with it,\" or even outright proud silence and no signs of life. <\/p>\n<p>At that moment, one develops a special affection for the manufacturer and speaks many tender words.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/cde72ca1d64842e265bc52f20dadf2aa.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\nIt's much more amusing to come across a message like this in a place where you least expect it. A seemingly ordinary situation: a disk has failed in the RAID. I replaced it with the same one, and the array should have rebuilt itself and continued working. But it didn't happen that way!<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes the RAID rebuilds, yet the server continues to show a red light, and the status \"degraded\" remains unchanged. I've encountered this problem fairly often lately. <\/p>\n<p><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"habracut\"><\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<p>So, we have <a class=\"wpil_keyword_link\" href=\"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/en\/server\/\"   title=\"server\" data-wpil-keyword-link=\"linked\">server<\/a> eighth generation HP production. DL360, 380, also occasionally in blade systems like BL460c. The RAID controller, accordingly, is the Smart Array P420, P222, P820 and similar. There\u2019s a disk. And the situation described above.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how it appears on the screen:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/3bdce9561b31b904170c893b31ffd1b1.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nAnd here's how in <a class=\"wpil_keyword_link\" href=\"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/en\/server\/dts-dronten\/\"   title=\"server\" data-wpil-keyword-link=\"linked\"  data-wpil-monitor-id=\"2566\">server<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/6cad0be8ac8679b5c75b08666181d148.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nHere, on the upper disk, there\u2019s a looped circular indication, and when assembling the array, it\u2019s not marked blue.<\/p>\n<p>The server is lit up with a red LED, and an error appears in ILO, with the status \"degraded\":<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/46a50e513749aef6ca47610507989c39.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nAnd it is degraded, of course, according to the storage:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/b927a6338578fddd731f0cec60d1589a.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/a0206a9cb97324af7f0e1d7626ed896c.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nIn the logs:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/ba55c0dcd4aa1dd5b2536f7d037d2363.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nIf you go into SSA and look at the disk, you\u2019ll see yet another confirmation.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/8d68d0806f155e2a62053214745490a2.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nIt\u2019s funny, because both disks are original. The hologram is clearly visible here:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/3955cf089fd42780c6ab1ca61fd76c0c.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nSo what\u2019s the problem? The answer is simple: in the trays. <\/p>\n<p>Since the eighth generation, HP decided that a tray isn\u2019t just a piece of plastic and metal with light guides, but a complex technical solution. <\/p>\n<p>In fact, the original tray is only on one disk. The Chinese replicas operate randomly: out of ten, about five might be decent. <\/p>\n<p>So it turns out that HP isn\u2019t to blame, but the Chinese, and all the kind words were misdirected.<\/p>\n<p>Here you can see the difference in the behavior of the Chinese replica and the original: the same unceasing circular indication.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/d9cf8f6ee6895affc6ddfe9456ce65bf.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nHow to identify a Chinese \"replica\"? Let me show you. <\/p>\n<p>It usually comes in such a box. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/e4abf895036967e086e92c911f08221a.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nNext, in all the photos above, the top is the replica, and the bottom is the original. <\/p>\n<p>1. It's clear that the color of the plastic differs. The original will be lighter.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/949132e3217e21e0651f4690719d95c5.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nThe presence or absence of a sticker indicating the model of the disk can be an additional sign, but it is not a guarantee. The replica is likely to have no sticker at all. <\/p>\n<p>2. Markings on the left side. The original has the HP logo etched along with the part number.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/3832a3696a5928108a0dc0e63fb7d927.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n3. The contact plate also differs. The Chinese version is yellow, while the original is orange, almost brown. Additionally, the original has labeling.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/3c9373346068a6b0326b17915e81c672.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n4. From the inside, on the same left side of the original, the part number is etched:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/a18b6c3ce72eb6e5d338913a8a7f399b.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n5. The color of the metal on the right side differs, the Chinese version has a more saturated color.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"HP: Your original disk is not original at all. Who is to blame and what to do?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/dae65fd1cb757737edce80f7c14d4c02.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nStay vigilant.<\/p>\n<p>The moral of the story is: not all cassettes are equally useful. Moreover, these replica cassettes often fit tightly into their slots, to the point where it\u2019s nearly impossible to remove the disk without damaging the cassette. <\/p>\n<p>Therefore, at WestComp \u2014 where I work, it was decided to stop using Chinese cassettes due to the many problems they have caused.<br \/>\n<br \/>Source: <a content=\"nofollow\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/ru\/post\/475522\/\">habr.com<\/a><\/p>","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u041f\u0440\u0438 \u0440\u0430\u0431\u043e\u0442\u0435 \u0441 \u0436\u0435\u043b\u0435\u0437\u043e\u043c, \u043f\u043e\u0442\u0440\u0435\u0431\u0438\u0442\u0435\u043b\u044c\u0441\u043a\u043e\u0433\u043e \u043b\u0438, \u0431\u0438\u0437\u043d\u0435\u0441 \u0441\u0435\u0433\u043c\u0435\u043d\u0442\u043e\u0432 \u2014 \u043d\u0435 \u0432\u0430\u0436\u043d\u043e, \u0441\u043b\u043e\u0436\u043d\u043e \u043f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u0438\u0442\u044c \u0447\u0442\u043e-\u0442\u043e, \u0432\u044b\u0437\u044b\u0432\u0430\u044e\u0449\u0435\u0435 \u0441\u0442\u043e\u043b\u044c\u043a\u043e \u00ab\u043b\u044e\u0431\u0432\u0438 \u0438 \u043e\u0431\u043e\u0436\u0430\u043d\u0438\u044f\u00bb \u043a \u043f\u0440\u043e\u0438\u0437\u0432\u043e\u0434\u0438\u0442\u0435\u043b\u044e, \u043a\u0430\u043a \u00ab\u0431\u0435\u043b\u044b\u0435 \u0441\u043f\u0438\u0441\u043a\u0438\u00bb \u0441\u043e\u0432\u043c\u0435\u0441\u0442\u0438\u043c\u043e\u0433\u043e \u043e\u0431\u043e\u0440\u0443\u0434\u043e\u0432\u0430\u043d\u0438\u044f \u0438 \u0440\u0430\u0441\u0445\u043e\u0434\u043d\u0438\u043a\u043e\u0432. \u0412\u0440\u043e\u0434\u0435 \u0431\u044b \u0432\u0441\u0435 \u0445\u043e\u0440\u043e\u0448\u043e: \u043d\u0438\u043a\u0430\u043a\u0438\u0445 \u043f\u0440\u0435\u043f\u044f\u0442\u0441\u0442\u0432\u0438\u0439 \u0434\u043b\u044f \u0440\u0430\u0431\u043e\u0442\u044b \u0443\u0441\u0442\u0440\u043e\u0439\u0441\u0442\u0432\u0430 \u043d\u0435\u0442, \u043d\u043e \u043f\u0440\u0438 \u043f\u043e\u0434\u043a\u043b\u044e\u0447\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0438 \u043f\u043e\u043b\u0443\u0447\u0430\u0435\u043c \u0447\u0442\u043e-\u043d\u0438\u0431\u0443\u0434\u044c \u0432 \u0434\u0443\u0445\u0435 \u00ab\u0432\u0430\u0448\u0435 \u0443\u0441\u0442\u0440\u043e\u0439\u0441\u0442\u0432\u043e \u043d\u0435 \u043f\u043e\u0434\u0434\u0435\u0440\u0436\u0438\u0432\u0430\u0435\u0442\u0441\u044f, \u043d\u0435 \u0445\u043e\u0447\u0443 \u0441 \u043d\u0438\u043c \u0440\u0430\u0431\u043e\u0442\u0430\u0442\u044c\u00bb, \u0430 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[688],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-53262","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-administrirovanie"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.2 - 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