{"id":153586,"date":"2026-01-15T17:12:03","date_gmt":"2026-01-15T15:12:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/novosti-interneta\/v-debian-14-namereny-prekratit-postavku-gtk2"},"modified":"2026-01-15T17:12:03","modified_gmt":"2026-01-15T15:12:03","slug":"v-debian-14-namereny-prekratit-postavku-gtk2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/et\/blog\/news\/v-debian-14-namereny-prekratit-postavku-gtk2","title":{"rendered":"Debian 14 raames plaanitakse GTK2 tarnimist l\u00f5petada","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Debiani GNOME'i paketite eest vastutav meeskond plaanib mitte kaasata GTK2 t\u00f6\u00f6riistu Debian 14 jaotusse, mille v\u00e4ljaandmine on oodata suvel 2027. aastal. GTK projekti arendajad on GTK2 hoolduse l\u00f5petanud \u00fcle viie aasta tagasi ja GTK2 toetamine peamises hoidlas muutub probleemseks. Jaotustes, mis on juba GTK2 tarnimise l\u00f5petanud, on n\u00e4iteks Red Hat Enterprise Linux, SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 16, openSUSE 16 ja Arch Linux. Debiani soovitatakse j\u00e4rgida nende eeskuju.        <\/p>\n<p>\u0418\u0437 \u0437\u043d\u0430\u0447\u0438\u043c\u044b\u0445 \u043f\u0440\u043e\u0435\u043a\u0442\u043e\u0432, \u0437\u0430\u0432\u044f\u0437\u0430\u043d\u043d\u044b\u0445 \u043d\u0430 GTK2, \u0434\u043e \u043d\u0435\u0434\u0430\u0432\u043d\u0438\u0445 \u043f\u043e\u0440 \u043e\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u0430\u043b\u0441\u044f  GIMP, \u043d\u043e \u043d\u0430\u0447\u0438\u043d\u0430\u044f \u0441 GIMP 3.0 \u0434\u0430\u043d\u043d\u044b\u0439 \u0433\u0440\u0430\u0444\u0438\u0447\u0435\u0441\u043a\u0438\u0439 \u0440\u0435\u0434\u0430\u043a\u0442\u043e\u0440 \u043f\u043e\u0440\u0442\u0438\u0440\u043e\u0432\u0430\u043d \u043d\u0430 GTK3. 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Debiani hoidlas on veel umbes 150 paketti, mis on s\u00f5ltuvuses GTK2-st, ja kui GTK2 tarnimine l\u00f5petatakse, tuleb need paketid eemaldada, kuna enamus neist ei arene ning nende portimine GTK3-le on v\u00e4het\u00f5en\u00e4oline.         <\/p>\n<p>Paljudel nendest pakettidest on aktiivsed kasutajad, kes ei soovi teistele programmidele \u00fcle minna. Samuti on leidunud arendajaid, kes toetavad GTK2 toe s\u00e4ilitamist Debiani ja peavad p\u00f5hjuseid selle eemaldamiseks absurdselt v\u00e4lja m\u00f5eldud. N\u00e4iteks ei ole m\u00f5tet \u00f6elda, et GTK3 on v\u00e4lja antud 15 aastat tagasi, kuna GTK3 ei asenda GTK2, samamoodi nagu GTK4 ei asenda GTK3.     <\/p>\n<p>Samuti pannakse kahtluse alla sellised argumendid nagu HiDPI ja Waylandi toe puudumine GTK2-s, kuna see ei ole seal vajalik ja kasutajaid see ei h\u00e4iri. Samuti nimetatakse sobimatuks v\u00f5rdlemiseks Arch Linuxi, kus GTK2 on k\u00f5rvaldatud p\u00f5hihoidlast, kuid on saadaval mitteametlikes hoidlates. Arutamisel k\u00fcsitakse ka, mis on GTK2 halvem GCC 3.3-st, mis oli saadaval \u00fcle 20 aasta, kuni Debian 12, millest 16 aastat vaid libstdc++5 pakkumiseks vananenud k\u00e4ivitusfailide jaoks.    <\/p>\n<p>GTK2 eemaldamise poolt r\u00e4\u00e4givad toetajad nimetavad \u00fcheks p\u00f5hjuseks paketihoolduse turvalisuse tagamise v\u00f5imatust, kuid vastased r\u00e4\u00e4givad vastu, et GTK2 turvalisus Debiani on seni enamiku inimeste jaoks olnud mureks ja viimane viga, mis on m\u00e4rgitud haavatavusena, on dateeritud aastaga 2015.          <\/p>\n<p>\u0412 \u043d\u0430\u0441\u0442\u043e\u044f\u0449\u0435\u0435 \u0432\u0440\u0435\u043c\u044f \u0432\u0435\u0434\u0451\u0442\u0441\u044f \u043e\u0431\u0441\u0443\u0436\u0434\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435 \u0441\u043f\u043e\u0441\u043e\u0431\u043e\u0432 \u043e\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u043b\u0435\u043d\u0438\u044f \u0432\u043e\u0437\u043c\u043e\u0436\u043d\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438 \u043f\u043e\u0434\u0434\u0435\u0440\u0436\u043a\u0438 \u0432 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