{"id":35128,"date":"2019-10-31T22:02:28","date_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:02:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/comodo-otzyvaet-sertifikaty-bez-prichiny\/"},"modified":"2019-10-31T22:02:28","modified_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:02:28","slug":"comodo-otzyvaet-sertifikaty-bez-prichiny","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/et\/blog\/administrirovanie\/comodo-otzyvaet-sertifikaty-bez-prichiny","title":{"rendered":"Comodo tagasi kutsub sertifikaate ilma p\u00f5hjuseta","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Kas te suudate ette kujutada, et suur ettev\u00f5te petab oma kliente, eriti kui see ettev\u00f5te positsioneerib end turvalisuse garantii? Nii ma ei suutnud kuni hiljuti. See artikkel on hoiatuseks, et peaksite enne Comodolt koodiallkirja sertifikaadi ostmist k\u00fcmme korda m\u00f5tlema.<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"habracut\"><\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<p>Oma t\u00f6\u00f6 t\u00f5ttu (s\u00fcsteemiadministreerimine) loon erinevaid kasulikke programme, mida aktiivselt oma t\u00f6\u00f6s kasutan ja samas tasuta k\u00f5igile huvilistele jagan. Umbes kolm aastat tagasi tekkis vajadus programme allkirjastada, muidu ei saanud k\u00f5ik minu kliendid ja kasutajad neid ilma probleemideta alla laadida lihtsalt selle t\u00f5ttu, et need ei olnud allkirjastatud. Allkiri on juba ammu muutunud tavapraktikaks ning ei oma t\u00e4htsust, kui turvaline programm on, kuid kui see ei ole allkirjastatud, siis p\u00f6\u00f6ratakse sellele kindlasti rohkem t\u00e4helepanu:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Brauserid koguvad statistikat, kui tihti faili alla laetakse, ja kui see ei ole allkirjastatud, siis v\u00f5ib alguses see isegi edasil\u00fckkuda \"igasuguste \u00e4parduste v\u00e4ltimiseks\" ja n\u00f5uda kasutajalt selget kinnitust salvestamiseks. Algoritmid v\u00f5ivad olla erinevad, m\u00f5nikord loetakse domeeni usaldusv\u00e4\u00e4rseks, kuid kokkuv\u00f5ttes on just kehtiv allkiri turvalisuse t\u00f5endamine.<\/li>\n<li>P\u00e4rast allalaadimist vaatab faili \u00fcle viiruset\u00f5rje ja vahetult enne k\u00e4ivitamist operatsioonis\u00fcsteem ise. Viiruset\u00f5rjete jaoks on allkiri samuti oluline, seda on lihtne j\u00e4lgida virustotalis, ja mis puutub operatsioonis\u00fcsteemi, siis alates Win10-st blokeeritakse kohe fail, millel on tagandid t\u00f5mmatud, ja seda ei saa Failihaldurist avada. Lisaks keelatakse m\u00f5nedes organisatsioonides \u00fcldse allkirjastamata koodi k\u00e4ivitamine (seda saab seadistada s\u00fcsteemi vahenditega), ja see on \u00f5igustatud \u2014 k\u00f5ik normaalsed arendajad on ammu hoolitsenud selle eest, et nende programme saaks ilma lisap\u00fc\u00fcdlusteta kontrollida.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\nKokkuv\u00f5ttes on suund \u00f5ige \u2014 v\u00f5imaluste piires muuta internet v\u00f5imalikult ohutuks kogenematutele kasutajatele. Siiski on rakendamine kaugel ideaalist. Lihtne arendaja ei saa lihtsalt sertifikaati, seda tuleb osta ettev\u00f5tetelt, kes on turgu monopoliseerinud ja dikteerivad seal oma tingimusi. Aga mis siis, kui programmid on tasuta? See ei huvita kedagi. Siis on arendajal valik \u2014 pidevalt t\u00f5estada oma programmide ohutust, ohverdades kasutajate mugavust, v\u00f5i osta sertifikaat. Kolm aastat tagasi oli kasulik StartCom, kes n\u00fc\u00fcd elab ookeani p\u00f5hjas, nendega ei olnud kunagi probleeme. Praegu pakub minimaalset hinda Comodo, kuid nagu selgus, on seal konks \u2014 arendaja jaoks on nad praktiliselt keegi ja petmine on seal normaalne praktika.<\/p>\n<p>Peaaegu aasta sertifikaadi kasutamisest, mille ostsin 2018. aasta keskel, t\u00fchistas Comodo selle ootamatult, ilma eelneva teavitamiseta e-posti v\u00f5i telefoni teel, selgitamata p\u00f5hjuseid. Nende tugiteenindus t\u00f6\u00f6tab halvasti \u2014 nad v\u00f5ivad mitte vastata n\u00e4dal aega, kuid p\u00f5hjus siiski selgus \u2014 nad arvasid, et v\u00e4ljastatud sertifikaadiga oli allkirjastatud pahavara. Ja selle looga olekski v\u00f5inud l\u00f5petada, kui mitte \u00fcks aga \u2014 ma ei ole kunagi loonud pahavara ja minu kaitsemeetodid v\u00f5imaldavad kinnitada, et minu privaatv\u00f5ti ei saa varastada. Koopia v\u00f5tmega on ainult Comodol, kuna nad v\u00e4ljastavad neid ilma CSR-ta. Edasiemanen \u2014 peaaegu kaks n\u00e4dalat kasutuid katseid elementaarset t\u00f5estust saada. Ettev\u00f5te, mis v\u00e4idetavalt tagab turvalisuse, keeldus kategooriliselt t\u00f5endite esitamisest.<\/p>\n<p><b class=\"spoiler_title\">Viimases vestluses tugiteenindusega<\/b>You 01:20<br \/>\nYou have written \u00abWe strive to respond to standard support tickets within the same business day.\u00bb but I have been waiting for a response for a week now.<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:20<br \/>\nTere, olete oodatud Sectigo SSL-i valideerimisele!<br \/>\nLas ma kontrollin teie juhtumi staatust, palun oodake minut.<br \/>\nOlen kontrollinud ja tellimus on t\u00fchistatud pahavara\/pettuse\/r\u00fcndetegevuse t\u00f5ttu meie k\u00f5rgema ametniku poolt.<\/p>\n<p>You 01:28<br \/>\nOlen kindel, et see on teie viga, seet\u00f5ttu palun t\u00f5endust.<br \/>\nMa ei ole kunagi kogenud pahavara\/pettust\/kalastamist.<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:30<br \/>\nKahju, Alexander. Olen kahekordselt kontrollinud ja tellimus on t\u00fchistatud pahavara\/pettuse\/r\u00fcndetegevuse t\u00f5ttu meie k\u00f5rgema ametniku poolt.<\/p>\n<p>You 01:31<br \/>\nMillises failis te n\u00e4gite viirust? Kas seal on link virustotalile? Ma ei n\u00f5ustu teie vastusega, kuna selles ei ole t\u00f5endit. Ma maksin selle sertifikaadi eest raha ja mul on \u00f5igus teada, miks mul on sunnitud raha v\u00f5tma.<br \/>\nKui te ei saa t\u00f5estust esitada, siis t\u00fchistati sertifikaat eba\u00f5iglaselt ja raha tuleb tagasi maksta. Muidu, mis m\u00f5te on teie t\u00f6\u00f6l, kui te t\u00fchistate sertifikaate ilma t\u00f5endusmaterjalita?<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:34<br \/>\nM\u00f5istan teie muret. Koodialsigned sertifikaati on teatatud kurja tekitamise eest. Tootmisvaldkonna juhiste kohaselt on Sectigo kui sertifikaadi v\u00e4ljaandja kohustatud sertifikaadi t\u00fchistama.<br \/>\nSamuti, vastavalt tagasimaksepoliitikale, ei saa me raha tagasi maksta 30 p\u00e4eva m\u00f6\u00f6dumisel v\u00e4ljaandmise kuup\u00e4evast. <\/p>\n<p>Teie 01:35<br \/>\nMiks te arvate, et see ei ole viga v\u00f5i vale positiivne?<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:36<br \/>\nKahjuks, Alexander. Vastavalt meie \u00fclemate teatele, on tellimus t\u00fchistatud kurja tegevuse \/ pettuse \/ kalastamise t\u00f5ttu.<\/p>\n<p>Teie 01:37<br \/>\nPole vaja vabandada, maksin raha ja tahan n\u00e4ha t\u00f5endeid, et rikun teie reegleid. See on lihtne.<br \/>\nMaksin kolme aasta eest, siis tuli teilt p\u00f5hjus, j\u00e4tsite mind sertifikaadita ja ilma t\u00f5endusmaterjalita.<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:43<br \/>\nM\u00f5istan teie muret. Koodialsigned sertifikaati on teatatud kurja tekitamise eest. Tootmisvaldkonna juhiste kohaselt on Sectigo kui sertifikaadi v\u00e4ljaandja kohustatud sertifikaadi t\u00fchistama.<\/p>\n<p>Teie 01:45<br \/>\nTundub, et te ei saa aru. Kuidas n\u00e4gite kohut, mis langetab otsuse ilma t\u00f5endusmaterjalita? Te tegite just sedasi. Mul pole kunagi olnud kurja tarkvara. Miks te ei esita t\u00f5estust, kui see on nii? Mis konkreetne t\u00f5endus on sertifikaadi t\u00fchistamine?<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:46<br \/>\nKahjuks, Alexander. Vastavalt meie \u00fclemate teatele, on tellimus t\u00fchistatud kurja tegevuse \/ pettuse \/ kalastamise t\u00f5ttu.<\/p>\n<p>Teie 01:47<br \/>\nKelle poole ma saan p\u00f6\u00f6rduda, et teada saada sertifikaadi t\u00fchistamise \u00f5iget p\u00f5hjust?<br \/>\nKui te ei saa vastata, \u00f6elge, kelle poole p\u00f6\u00f6rduda?<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:48<br \/>\nPalun esitage pilet uuesti, kasutades allolevat linki, et saaksite v\u00f5imalikult kiiresti vastuse.<br \/>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/sectigo.com\/support-ticket\">sectigo.com\/support-ticket<\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<p>Teie 01:48<br \/>\nAit\u00e4h.<br \/>\nSelline olukord ei ole ainulaadne, kogu vestluse jooksul vastatakse paremal juhul ikka ja j\u00e4lle \u00fchte ja sama, piletele ei vastata \u00fcldse v\u00f5i vastused on sama kasutu.<\/p>\n<p><b class=\"spoiler_title\">Loon pileti uuesti<\/b>Minu p\u00e4ring:<br \/>\nVajan t\u00f5endit, et olen reeglit rikkunud, mis viis t\u00fchistamiseni. Ostsin sertifikaadi ja tahan teada, miks mu raha on minu k\u00e4est v\u00f5etud.<br \/>\n\u00abpahavara\/pettus\/kalastamine\u00bb ei ole vastus! Millises failis te n\u00e4gite viirust? Kas on link virustotal'ile? Palun esitage t\u00f5end v\u00f5i tagastage raha, olen t\u00fcdinud tehnilisest toest kirjutamisest ja olen oodanud rohkem kui n\u00e4dala.<br \/>\nAit\u00e4h.<\/p>\n<p>Nende vastus:<br \/>\nKoodialsigned sertifikaati on teatatud kurja tekitamise eest. Tootmisvaldkonna juhiste kohaselt on Sectigo kui sertifikaadi v\u00e4ljaandja kohustatud sertifikaadi t\u00fchistama.<br \/>\nLootus, et mulle vastab mitte ahv, kaob l\u00f5plikult. Huvitav skeem paistab v\u00e4lja:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>M\u00fc\u00fcme sertifikaadi.<\/li>\n<li>Ootame \u00fcle poole aasta, et PayPali kaudu ei saaks vaidlust avada.<\/li>\n<li>T\u00fchistame ja ootame j\u00e4rgmist tellimust. Profit!<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\nKuna mul ei ole neile muid m\u00f5juv\u00f5imu esitamisviise, pean ma lihtsalt nende petmist avalikkusele r\u00e4\u00e4kima. Ostes sertifikaadi Comodolt, nad on ju Sectigo, v\u00f5ite sattuda sarnasesse olukorda.<\/p>\n<p><b>Uuendus 9. juunist:<\/b><br \/>\nT\u00e4na teavitasin CodeSignCert'i (ettev\u00f5tte, mille kaudu ostsin sertifikaadi), et kuna nad on l\u00f5petanud vastamise, olen olukorra v\u00e4lja toonud avalikuks aruteluks, viidates sellele artiklile. M\u00f5ne aja p\u00e4rast saatsid nad l\u00f5puks ekraanipildi virustotal'ist, kus oli n\u00e4ha programmi hash <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.simplix.info\/ezvitupd\">EzvitUpd<\/a><\/noindex>:<br \/>\nVirusTotal \u2014 <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.virustotal.com\/gui\/file\/d92299c3f7791f0ebb7a6975f4295792fbbf75440cb1f47ef9190f2a4731d425\/detection\">d92299c3f7791f0ebb7a6975f4295792fbbf75440cb1f47ef9190f2a4731d425<\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<p>Minu hinnang olukorrale:<br \/>\nV\u00f5in kindlalt \u00f6elda, et see on vale positiivne. M\u00e4rgised:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Generic t\u00e4histus enamikus valeh\u00e4iretes.<\/li>\n<li>Antiviirusjuhid ei anna valeh\u00e4ireid.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\nOn raske \u00f6elda, mis just antiviiruste sellist reaktsiooni p\u00f5hjustas, kuid kuna fail on tugevalt vananenud (loodud peaaegu aasta tagasi), ei ole mul versiooni 1.6.1 algversiooni s\u00e4ilinud, et faili binaarselt taastada. 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