{"id":35128,"date":"2019-10-31T22:02:28","date_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:02:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/comodo-otzyvaet-sertifikaty-bez-prichiny\/"},"modified":"2019-10-31T22:02:28","modified_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:02:28","slug":"comodo-otzyvaet-sertifikaty-bez-prichiny","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/et\/blog\/administrirovanie\/comodo-otzyvaet-sertifikaty-bez-prichiny","title":{"rendered":"Comodo t\u00fchistab sertifikaate ilma p\u00f5hjuseta","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Kas te oskasite ette kujutada, et suur ettev\u00f5te petab oma kliente, eriti kui see ettev\u00f5te positsioneerib end turvalisuse garantii? Mina ei osanud ka kuni viimase ajani. See artikkel on hoiatuseks, et peaksite enne Comodolt koodiallkirjastamiseks sertifikaadi ostmist k\u00fcmme korda j\u00e4rele m\u00f5tlema.<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"habracut\"><\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<p>Oma t\u00f6\u00f6 t\u00f5ttu (s\u00fcsteemiadministreerimine) loon ma erinevaid kasulikke programme, mida aktiivselt enda t\u00f6\u00f6s kasutan ja samaaegselt jagan neid tasuta k\u00f5igile huvilistele. Umbes kolm aastat tagasi tekkis vajadus programme allkirjastada, muidu ei saanud k\u00f5ik minu kliendid ja kasutajad neid probleemideta alla laadida, kuna need polnud allkirjastatud. Allkiri on juba ammu norm ja ei ole oluline, kui ohutu programm on, aga kui see pole allkirjastatud, on sellele kindlasti suurem t\u00e4helepanu:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Brauser kogub statistikat selle kohta, kui sageli fail laaditakse ja kui see ei ole allkirjastatud, v\u00f5ib alguses isegi see blokeerida \"igaks juhuks\" ning n\u00f5uda kasutajalt selget kinnitust salvestamiseks. Algoritmid v\u00f5ivad olla erinevad; m\u00f5nikord loetakse domeen usaldusv\u00e4\u00e4rseks, kuid \u00fcldiselt on just kehtiv allkiri turvalisuse kinnituseks.<\/li>\n<li>P\u00e4rast allalaadimist kontrollib faili viiruset\u00f5rje ning enne k\u00e4ivitamist ka operatsioonis\u00fcsteem ise. Viiruset\u00f5rjete jaoks on allkiri samuti oluline, seda on lihtne j\u00e4lgida virustotal'is; operatsioonis\u00fcsteemi osas blokeeritakse alates Windows 10'st fail, mille sertifikaat on t\u00fchistatud, ja seda ei saa Windows Explorer'is k\u00e4ivitada. Lisaks on m\u00f5nedes organisatsioonides \u00fcldiselt keelatud allkirjastamata koodi k\u00e4itamine (seda saab seadistada s\u00fcsteemi vahenditega), ja see on p\u00f5hjendatud \u2014 k\u00f5ik normaalsed arendajad on juba ammu taganud, et nende programmid oleksid kontrollitavad ilma t\u00e4iendavate pingutusteta.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\nKokkuv\u00f5ttes on suund valitud \u00f5ige \u2014 v\u00f5imaluste piires teha internet nii ohutuks kui v\u00f5imalik kogemusteta kasutajate jaoks. Siiski on rakendamine endiselt kaugel ideaalist. Tavaline arendaja ei saa lihtsalt sertifikaati, seda tuleb osta ettev\u00f5tetelt, kes on selle turu monopoliseerinud ja dikteerivad seal oma tingimusi. Aga mis juhtub, kui programmid on tasuta? Keegi ei huvita. Sellisel juhul seisab arendajal silmitsi valikuga \u2014 pidevalt t\u00f5estada oma programmide turvalisust, ohverdades kasutajate mugavust, v\u00f5i osta sertifikaat. Kolm aastat tagasi oli kasulik StartCom, kes praegu elab ookeani p\u00f5hjas, nendega ei olnud kunagi probleeme. Praegu pakub madalaimat hinda Comodo, kuid, nagu selgus, on seal n\u00fcanss \u2014 nende jaoks on arendaja lausa keegi ja petta teda \u2014 tavaline praktika.<\/p>\n<p>Peaaegu aasta p\u00e4rast sertifikaadi kasutamist, mille ostsin 2018. aasta keskel, t\u00fchistas Comodo selle ootamatult, ilma eelneva teavitamiseta e-posti v\u00f5i telefoni teel, ning ilma selgitusteta. Nende klienditeenindus t\u00f6\u00f6tab kehvasti \u2014 nad v\u00f5ivad n\u00e4dala jooksul mitte vastata, kuid peamise p\u00f5hjuse sain l\u00f5puks teada \u2014 nad arvavad, et v\u00e4ljastatud sertifikaadiga on allkirjastatud pahavara. Ja lugu oleks peaaegu l\u00f5ppenud, kui mitte \u00fcks asi \u2014 ma ei ole kunagi pahavara loonud, ning minu kaitsemeetodid v\u00f5imaldavad v\u00e4ita, et mu private key varastamine on v\u00f5imatu. T\u00f5estus selle kohta on ainult Comodol, sest nad v\u00e4ljastavad seda ilma CSR-ita. Edasi \u2014 peaaegu kahe n\u00e4dala jooksul eba\u00f5nnestunud katseid saada elementaarset t\u00f5endit. Ettev\u00f5te, mis v\u00e4idetavalt garanteerib turvalisuse valdkonnas kaitse, keeldus kategooriliselt t\u00f5endite esitamast nende reeglite rikkumise kohta.<\/p>\n<p><b class=\"spoiler_title\">Viimases vestluses klienditoega<\/b>Sa 01:20<br \/>\nSa kirjutasid: \u00abMe p\u00fc\u00fcame vastata tavap\u00e4rastele tugipiletitele samal t\u00f6\u00f6p\u00e4eval.\u00bb kuid ma olen n\u00fc\u00fcd n\u00e4dal aega vastust oodanud.<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:20<br \/>\nTere, tere tulemast Sectigo SSL-i valideerimisele!<br \/>\nLas ma kontrollin teie juhtumi staatust, palun oodake hetke.<br \/>\nOlen kontrollinud ja tellimus on t\u00fchistatud meie k\u00f5rgemate ametnike t\u00f5ttu, kellel on Malware \/ Pettus \/ Phishing.<\/p>\n<p>Sa 01:28<br \/>\nOlen kindel, et see on sinu viga, seega palun t\u00f5estust.<br \/>\nMa ei ole kunagi kogenud pahavara\/pettust\/kalap\u00fc\u00fcki.<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:30<br \/>\nMul on kahju, Alexander. Olen veelkord kontrollinud ja tellimus on t\u00fchistatud meie k\u00f5rgemate ametnike t\u00f5ttu Malware \/ Pettus \/ Phishing.<\/p>\n<p>Sa 01:31<br \/>\nMillises failis sa viirust n\u00e4gid? Kas on link virustotal'ile? Ma ei n\u00f5ustu sinu vastusega, kuna seal ei ole t\u00f5estust. Ma maksin selle sertifikaadi eest raha ja mul on \u00f5igus teada, miks mu raha v\u00f5etakse j\u00f5hkralt.<br \/>\nKui sa ei suuda t\u00f5estust esitada, siis t\u00fchistati sertifikaat ebaausalt ja raha tuleb tagastada. Muidu, mis m\u00f5te on teie t\u00f6\u00f6l, kui t\u00fchistate sertifikaate ilma t\u00f5estuseta?<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:34<br \/>\nM\u00f5istan teie muret. Koodialsigned sertifikaat on teatatud pahavara levitamisest. Tootmisnormide kohaselt peab Sectigo kui sertifitseerimisagentuur sertifikaadi t\u00fchistama.<br \/>\nSamuti vastavalt tagastamispoliitikale ei saa me raha tagasi anda p\u00e4rast 30 p\u00e4eva alates v\u00e4ljastamise kuup\u00e4evast. <\/p>\n<p>Sa 01:35<br \/>\nMiks sa arvad, et see pole viga v\u00f5i valeh\u00e4ire?<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:36<br \/>\nMul on kahju, Alexander. Meie k\u00f5rgemate ametnike aruande kohaselt on tellimus t\u00fchistatud pahavara \/ petuse \/ phishingu t\u00f5ttu.<\/p>\n<p>Sa 01:37<br \/>\nPole vaja vabandada, ma maksin raha ja soovin n\u00e4ha t\u00f5endeid, et ma rikuksin teie reegleid. See on lihtne.<br \/>\nMaksin kolme aasta eest, siis tulite raha p\u00f5hjendusega ja j\u00e4tsite mind ilma sertifikaadita ja ilma oma s\u00fc\u00fc t\u00f5estamata.<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:43<br \/>\nM\u00f5istan teie muret. Koodialsigned sertifikaat on teatatud pahavara levitamisest. Tootmisnormide kohaselt peab Sectigo kui sertifitseerimisagentuur sertifikaadi t\u00fchistama.<\/p>\n<p>Sa 01:45<br \/>\nTundub, et sa ei saa aru. Kus sa n\u00e4gid kohut, mis m\u00f5istab otsuse ilma t\u00f5estuseta? Sa tegid just seda. Mul pole kunagi olnud pahavara. Miks te ei esita t\u00f5estust, kui see on nii? Mis konkreetne t\u00f5estus on sertifikaadi t\u00fchistamine?<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:46<br \/>\nMul on kahju, Alexander. Meie k\u00f5rgemate ametnike aruande kohaselt on tellimus t\u00fchistatud pahavara \/ petuse \/ phishingu t\u00f5ttu.<\/p>\n<p>Sa 01:47<br \/>\nKust ma v\u00f5in v\u00e4lja uurida sertifikaadi t\u00fchistamise t\u00f5elise p\u00f5hjuse?<br \/>\nKui sa ei saa vastata, \u00fctle, kelle poole p\u00f6\u00f6rduda?<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:48<br \/>\nPalun esitage pilet uuesti alloleva lingi kaudu, et saaksite vastuse v\u00f5imalikult kiiresti.<br \/>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/sectigo.com\/support-ticket\">sectigo.com\/support-ticket<\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<p>Te 01:48<br \/>\nAit\u00e4h.<br \/>\nSelline tulemus ei ole ainulaadne, kogu vestluse jooksul vastavad nad parimal juhul ikka ja j\u00e4lle sama, piletitele ei vastata \u00fcldse v\u00f5i vastused on sama kasulikud.<\/p>\n<p><b class=\"spoiler_title\">Loon pileti uuesti<\/b>Minu p\u00e4ring:<br \/>\nMa vajan t\u00f5endit, et rikkusin reeglit, mis viis t\u00fchistamiseni. Ostsin sertifikaadi ja tahan teada, miks mu raha minult v\u00f5eti.<br \/>\n\u00abpahavara\/pettus\/kalap\u00fc\u00fck\u00bb ei ole vastus! Millises failis te n\u00e4gite viirust? Kas on link virustotalile? Palun esitage t\u00f5endid v\u00f5i tagastage raha, ma olen v\u00e4sinud tehnilisest toetusest kirjutamisest ja olen oodanud rohkem kui n\u00e4dal.<br \/>\nAit\u00e4h.<\/p>\n<p>Nende vastus:<br \/>\nKoodim\u00e4rgistuse sertifikaat on teatatud pahavarade levitamise eest. T\u00f6\u00f6stuse juhiste kohaselt: Sectigo kui Sertifikaadi Amet on kohustatud sertifikaadi t\u00fchistama.<br \/>\nLootus, et mulle vastab mitte ahv, kaob l\u00f5puks. Huvi tekitab j\u00e4rgmine skeem:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>K\u00fclastame sertifikaati.<\/li>\n<li>Ootame \u00fcle kuue kuu, et PayPali kaudu ei saaks vaidlust avada.<\/li>\n<li>T\u00fchistame ja ootame j\u00e4rgmist tellimust. Kasa!<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\nKuna mul pole nende suhtes muid m\u00f5jutusmeetodeid, saan ainult nende pettust avalikustada. Ostes sertifikaadi Comodolt, samadest, kes on Sectigo, v\u00f5ite sattuda samasse olukorda.<\/p>\n<p><b>Uuendus 9. juunist:<\/b><br \/>\nT\u00e4na teatasin CodeSignCert'ile (ettev\u00f5te, mille kaudu ma sertifikaadi ostsin), et kuna nad on l\u00f5petanud vastamise, t\u00f5in olukorra avalikuks aruteluks, viidates sellele artiklile. Peagi saatsid nad l\u00f5puks ekraanit\u00f5mmise virustotal'ist, kus oli n\u00e4ha programmi hajus. <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.simplix.info\/ezvitupd\">EzvitUpd<\/a><\/noindex>:<br \/>\nVirusTotal \u2014 <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.virustotal.com\/gui\/file\/d92299c3f7791f0ebb7a6975f4295792fbbf75440cb1f47ef9190f2a4731d425\/detection\">d92299c3f7791f0ebb7a6975f4295792fbbf75440cb1f47ef9190f2a4731d425<\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<p>Minu hinnang olukorrale:<br \/>\nV\u00f5in kindlalt \u00f6elda, et see on valepositiiv. Tunnused:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Generic'i m\u00e4\u00e4ramine enamiku positiivsete t\u00f5idete puhul.<\/li>\n<li>Antivirusite liidrite juures puuduvad positiivsed t\u00f5idemed.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\nRaske \u00f6elda, mis t\u00e4pselt p\u00f5hjustas sellise reaktsiooni antiviiruselt, kuid kuna fail on tugevalt vananenud (loodud peaaegu aasta tagasi), siis mul ei ole versiooni 1.6.1 l\u00e4htekoodi, et faili binaarselt taasluua. K\u00fcll aga mul on viimane versioon 1.6.5, ja arvestades p\u00f5hivaru muutumatust, muudatused seal on olnud minimaalsed, kuid sellele ei ole sellist valepositiivi:<br \/>\nVirusTotal \u2014 <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.virustotal.com\/gui\/file\/c247d8c30eff4449c49dfc244040fc48bce4bba3e0890799de9f83e7a59310eb\/detection\">c247d8c30eff4449c49dfc244040fc48bce4bba3e0890799de9f83e7a59310eb<\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<p>CodeSignCert on teavitatud valepositiivist, p\u00e4rast edasiste l\u00e4bir\u00e4\u00e4kimiste tulemuste ilmnemist artiklit uuendatakse, kuni olukorra t\u00e4ieliku lahendamiseni.<br \/>\n<br \/>Allikas: <a content=\"nofollow\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/ru\/post\/455236\/\">habr.com<\/a><\/p>","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u041c\u043e\u0433\u043b\u0438 \u043b\u0438 \u0432\u044b \u043f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u0438\u0442\u044c \u0441\u0435\u0431\u0435, \u0447\u0442\u043e \u043a\u0440\u0443\u043f\u043d\u0430\u044f \u043a\u043e\u043c\u043f\u0430\u043d\u0438\u044f \u0431\u0443\u0434\u0435\u0442 \u0437\u0430\u043d\u0438\u043c\u0430\u0442\u044c\u0441\u044f \u043e\u0431\u043c\u0430\u043d\u043e\u043c \u0441\u0432\u043e\u0438\u0445 \u043a\u043b\u0438\u0435\u043d\u0442\u043e\u0432, \u043e\u0441\u043e\u0431\u0435\u043d\u043d\u043e \u0435\u0441\u043b\u0438 \u044d\u0442\u0430 \u043a\u043e\u043c\u043f\u0430\u043d\u0438\u044f \u043f\u043e\u0437\u0438\u0446\u0438\u043e\u043d\u0438\u0440\u0443\u0435\u0442 \u0441\u0435\u0431\u044f \u0433\u0430\u0440\u0430\u043d\u0442\u043e\u043c \u0431\u0435\u0437\u043e\u043f\u0430\u0441\u043d\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438? 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