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Sam Hartman, Debian projekti juht, proovis<\/a><\/noindex> selgitada paketi elogind tarnimisega seotud erimeelsusi. Juulis blokeeris v\u00e4ljaande ettevalmistamise meeskond elogindi<\/a><\/noindex> lisamise testimisokku, kuna see pakett on vastuolus libsystemd-iga. <\/p>\n

Tuletame meelde, et elogind<\/a><\/noindex> pakub liideseid, mis on vajalikud GNOME'i t\u00f6\u00f6ks ilma systemd installimata. Projekt on loodud systemd-logindist hargnedes, eraldi paketiks, mis on vabastatud systemd komponentidega seotud s\u00f5ltuvustest. Ehkki elogind pakub oma versiooni raamatukogust libelogind, mis t\u00e4idab mitmeid funktsioone, mida pakub libsystemd, ja asendab selle installimisel. <\/p>\n

Blokeerimise p\u00f5hjuste hulgas oli m\u00e4rgitud konflikt systemd paketiga ja oht asendada libsystemd libelogind alternatiiviga, mis ei ole t\u00e4ielikult \u00fchilduv algse raamatukoguga ABI tasemel.
\nPaketis elogind m\u00e4rgib kui kokkusobimatu systemd raamatukogudega, kuid see on m\u00f5eldud t\u00f6\u00f6tama ainult ilma systemd-ta ning konflikt systemd-ga on isegi kasulik, kuna see takistab elogindi valeinstallimist. Teisalt, praegusel kujul viivad katsed APT kaudu konfigureerida systemd-lt sysvinit ja elogind variantidele v\u00e4rskendamiseks kahjustatud s\u00fcsteemi<\/a><\/noindex> mittefunktsionaalse APT-ga. Kuid isegi selle puuduse k\u00f5rvaldamisel j\u00e4\u00e4b \u00fcleminek systemd-lt elogind-le v\u00f5imalikuks ainult juba paigaldatud kasutajakeskkondade eemaldamisega.<\/p>\n

Elogind arendajatele oli ettepanek<\/a><\/noindex> vajalik kohandada elogind t\u00f6\u00f6tama libpam-systemd peal, ilma et kasutataks enda libpam-elogindi kihti. Elogind-i \u00fcleminek libpam-systemd-le takistab s\u00fcnkroniseerimise toetuse puudumine, kuid elogindi arendajad ei soovi saavutada t\u00e4it API vastavust ega korrata k\u00f5iki systemd funktsioone, kuna elogind pakub vaid minimaalset funktsionaalsust kasutajate sisselogimise korraldamiseks ega p\u00fc\u00fcdle k\u00f5ikide systemd alams\u00fcsteemide kordamise poole.<\/p>\n

Kirjeldatud tehniliste probleemide lahendamine peaks toimuma v\u00e4ljaandmise meeskonna ja elogind'i ning systemd'i hooldajate vahelise koost\u00f6\u00f6 tasandil, kuid projekti juht pidi sekkuma, kuna meeskonnad ei suutnud kokku leppida, koost\u00f6\u00f6 muutus konfliktiks ja probleemide lahendamine sisenes ummikseisu, kus iga osapool on oma \u00f5iguses. Sam Hartmani arvates l\u00e4heneb olukord seisundile, mis n\u00f5uab \u00fchist h\u00e4\u00e4letamist (GR, \u00fcldine resolutsioon), kus kogukond otsustab alternatiivsete algatuss\u00fcsteemide ja sysvinit'i toetamise suhtes koos elogind'iga.<\/p>\n

Kui projekti liikmed h\u00e4\u00e4letavad algatuss\u00fcsteemide mitmekesistamise poolt, kaasatakse k\u00f5ik hooldajad koost\u00f6\u00f6s sellele \u00fclesandele v\u00f5i m\u00e4\u00e4ratakse spetsiaalsed vastutavad arendajad, kes tegelevad selle probleemiga, ning hooldajad ei saa enam ignoreerida alternatiivset algatuss\u00fcsteemi, vaikida v\u00f5i protsessi venitama j\u00e4\u00e4da. <\/p>\n

Praegu on repositooriumis juba kogunenud<\/a><\/noindex> 1033 paketti, mis tarnivad teenuse\u00fchikuid systemd jaoks, kuid ei h\u00f5lma init.d skripte. Selle probleemi lahendamiseks pakutakse<\/a><\/noindex> tarnida vaikimisi service-failid, kuid valmistada ette t\u00f6\u00f6tleja, mis automaatselt eraldab k\u00e4sud nendest failidest ja genereerib nende p\u00f5hjal init.d skripte.<\/p>\n

Kui kogukond otsustab, et Debianis on piisav ainult \u00fche initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteemi tugi, ei pea enam muretsema sysvinit'i ja elogind'i p\u00e4rast, keskendudes ainult unit-failidele ja systemd-le. Selline lahendus m\u00f5jutab negatiivselt sadamaid, mis ei kasuta Linuxi tuuma (Debian GNU\/Hurd<\/a><\/noindex>, Debian GNU\/NetBSD<\/a><\/noindex> ja Debian GNU\/kFreeBSD<\/a><\/noindex>), kuid peamiselt ei ole selliseid porte praegu p\u00f5hiarhiivis ja neil ei ole staatust ametlikult toetatavad<\/a><\/noindex>. <\/p>\n

Side systemd-iga raskendab oluliselt jaotuse arengusuuna muutmist tulevikus ning piirab edasiste katsetuste tegemist initsialiseerimise ja teenuste haldamise alal. Elogind'i t\u00f6\u00f6tas hoida on oluliselt lihtsam kui eemaldada ja seej\u00e4rel uuesti lisada. Igal lahenduse variandil on oma plussid ja miinused, seega enne h\u00e4\u00e4letamist on vajalik k\u00f5ikeh\u00f5lmav arutelu k\u00f5ikide argumentide \u00fcle poolt ja vastu.<\/p>\n

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