{"id":53682,"date":"2019-12-07T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-12-06T21:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/blog_prohoster\/nachalos-obshhee-golosovanie-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian"},"modified":"2020-02-18T14:01:36","modified_gmt":"2020-02-18T11:01:36","slug":"nachalos-obshhee-golosovanie-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/et\/blog\/news\/nachalos-obshhee-golosovanie-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian","title":{"rendered":"Alustati \u00fcldine h\u00e4\u00e4letamine algatamiss\u00fcsteemide \u00fcle Debiani","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"

Debiani projekt teatas<\/a><\/noindex> toote turule toomise \u00fcldine h\u00e4\u00e4letamine<\/a><\/noindex> (GR, \u00fcldresolutsioon) projekti arendajate k\u00fcsimusest mitme initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteemi toetamise<\/a><\/noindex>, mis m\u00e4\u00e4rab projekti edasise poliitika seoses seotusega systemd-ga, alternatiivsete init-s\u00fcsteemide toe ja koost\u00f6\u00f6ga tuletatud distributsioonidega, mis systemd-d ei kasuta. H\u00e4\u00e4letus kestab kuni 27. detsembrini (kaasa arvatud) ning tulemused tehakse teatavaks 28. detsembril.<\/p>\n

Tuletame meelde, et 2014. aastal kinnitas<\/a><\/noindex> \u00fcleminek<\/a><\/noindex> otsustas jaotuse tehniline komitee minna \u00fcle systemd-le, kuid ei t\u00f6\u00f6tanud v\u00e4lja<\/a><\/noindex> otsuse suhtes, mis puudutab mitme init-s\u00fcsteemi tuge (h\u00e4\u00e4letusel v\u00f5itis punkt, mis viitas komitee valmisoleku puudumisele selles k\u00fcsimuses otsust teha). Komitee juht soovitas paketihalduritel s\u00e4ilitada sysvinit alternatiivse init-s\u00fcsteemina, kuid r\u00f5hutas, et ta ei saa oma seisukohta peale suruda ning igal juhul tuleb otsus teha iseseisvalt. <\/p>\n

P\u00e4rast seda tegi m\u00f5ned arendajad katse korraldada \u00fcldine h\u00e4\u00e4letus, kuid eelnevad h\u00e4\u00e4letused n\u00e4itasid, et mitme initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteemi kasutamise k\u00fcsimuse osas ei ole vajalik otsust vastu v\u00f5tta. Mitme kuu eest, p\u00e4rast<\/a><\/noindex> elogind paketi (mis on vajalik GNOME'i toimimiseks ilma systemd-ta) lisamist testing harusse, tekkis konflikt libsystemd-ga, k\u00fcsimus t\u00f5statati taas Debian projekti juhi poolt, kuna arendajad ei suutnud kokkuleppele j\u00f5uda ning nende suhtlus muutus vastasseisuks ja j\u00f5udis ummikusse. probleemide<\/a><\/noindex> Arutluseks oli j\u00e4rgmised variandid: <\/p>\n

Praegu toimuv h\u00e4\u00e4letus v\u00f5imaldab kinnitada poliitika mitme init-s\u00fcsteemi suhtes ning kui v\u00f5idab punkt, mis kohustab toetama alternatiivseid s\u00fcsteeme, ei saa maintainer\u2019id selliseid k\u00fcsimusi ignoreerida ega nende lahendamist edasi l\u00fckata. P\u00e4rast arutelu projekti juhi algselt pakutud kolme h\u00e4\u00e4letuspunkti \u00fcle laiendati valikute arvu kaheksani. H\u00e4\u00e4letamisel on lubatud valida korraga mitu punkti, j\u00e4rjestades valitud variandid eelistuse j\u00e4rgi. H\u00e4\u00e4le\u00f5igus on ligikaudu tuhandel arendajal, kes tegelevad pakettide hoolduse ja infrastruktuuri \u00fclalhoiuga.<\/p>\n

Pakutud variandid:<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

  • P\u00f5hit\u00e4helepanu on suunatud systemd-le. Alternatiivsete initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteemide toetamine ei ole prioriteet, kuid hooldajatel on \u00f5igus vabatahtlikult lisada pakettidesse init-skripte selliste s\u00fcsteemide jaoks.\n
  • Mitmesuguste initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteemide toetamist ja v\u00f5imalust laadida Debian s\u00fcsteemidega, mis erinevad systemd-st.
    \nTeenuste k\u00e4ivitamiseks peavad paketid kohustuslikus korras sisaldama init-skripte; ainult systemd unit-failide tarnimine ilma sysv init-skriptideta ei ole lubatud.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n
  • Eelistatud j\u00e4\u00e4b systemd, kuid j\u00e4tkub v\u00f5imalus toetada ka alternatiivseid initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteeme. Tehnoloogiad nagu elogind, mis v\u00f5imaldavad alternatiivsetes keskkondades k\u00e4ivitada systemd-ga seotud rakendusi, peetakse oluliseks. Pakettidesse on lubatud lisada init-failid alternatiivsete s\u00fcsteemide jaoks.\n
  • Toetus s\u00fcsteemidele, mis ei kasuta systemd-i, s\u00e4ilib, kuid ilma muudatusteta, mis takistaksid edasiarendust. Arendajad n\u00f5ustuvad l\u00e4hitulevikus toetama mitut init-s\u00fcsteemi, kuid peavad samal ajal vajalikuks parandada systemd-i tuge. Spetsiifiliste lahenduste arendamise ja hooldusega peaksid tegelema kogukonnad, kes on neist lahendustest huvitatud, kuid teised maintainer\u2019id peavad vajaduse korral probleemide lahendamisele aktiivselt kaasa aitama. Ideaalis peaksid paketid t\u00f6\u00f6tama mis tahes init-s\u00fcsteemiga; selleks v\u00f5ib kaasa anda traditsioonilisi init-skripte v\u00f5i kasutada muid mehhanisme, mis v\u00f5imaldavad toimida ka ilma systemd-ita. V\u00f5imetust t\u00f6\u00f6tada ilma systemd-ita k\u00e4sitletakse veana, kuid mitte v\u00e4ljalaset blokeeriva veana, v\u00e4lja arvatud juhul, kui ilma systemd-ita t\u00f6\u00f6tamiseks on olemas valmislahendus, kuid selle s\u00e4ilitamisest keeldutakse (n\u00e4iteks kui probleem on p\u00f5hjustatud varem kaasas olnud init-skripti eemaldamisest).\n
  • Toetuse kandmine, ilma muudatusteta, mis takistaksid arendust. Debianit n\u00e4hakse endiselt sidusena erinevate tarkvarade integreerimiseks, pakkudes vastavat v\u00f5i sarnast funktsionaalsust. \u00dcks oluline eesm\u00e4rk on \u00fchilduvus, sh riistvara platvormide ja tarkvarakogumite vahel, ja alternatiivsete tehnoloogiate integreerimine on teretulnud, isegi kui nende loojate maailmapilt erineb \u00fcldisest arvamusest. Suhtumine systemd ja teiste k\u00e4ivituss\u00fcsteemide suhtes on t\u00e4ielikult koosk\u00f5las punktiga 4.\n
  • Toetuse \u00fcleviimine mitme k\u00e4ivituss\u00fcsteemi n\u00f5udmisse. V\u00f5imaluse pakkumine Debianile k\u00e4ivitamiseks k\u00e4ivituss\u00fcsteemidega, mis ei ole systemd, j\u00e4tkub projekti jaoks olulisena. Iga pakett peab t\u00f6\u00f6tama pid1 t\u00f6\u00f6tlejate puhul, mis erinevad systemd-st, v\u00e4lja arvatud juhul, kui paketti kuuluv tarkvara on algselt m\u00f5eldud t\u00f6\u00f6tama ainult systemd-ga ja puudub tugi t\u00f6\u00f6tamiseks ilma systemd-ta (init-skriptide puudumist ei loeta ainult systemd-le m\u00f5eldud t\u00f6\u00f6ks).\n
  • Toetab \u00fcleviimist ja mitme rakenduse kasutamist. \u00dchised p\u00f5him\u00f5tted on t\u00e4ielikult koosk\u00f5las punktiga 5, kuid systemd ja k\u00e4ivitus\u00ad s\u00fcsteemide suhtes ei esita konkreetseid n\u00f5udeid ning arendajatele ei kehtestata mingeid kohustusi. Arendajatele soovitatakse arvesse v\u00f5tta \u00fcksteise huve, leida kompromisse ja leida \u00fchised lahendused, mis oleksid rahuldavad erinevatele osalistele.\n
  • Arutelu j\u00e4tkumine. Punkti saab kasutada vastuv\u00f5etamatute valikute hinna alandamiseks.\n

    <\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n

    Allikas: opennet.ru<\/a><\/p>","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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