{"id":53682,"date":"2019-12-07T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-12-06T21:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/blog_prohoster\/nachalos-obshhee-golosovanie-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian"},"modified":"2020-02-18T14:01:36","modified_gmt":"2020-02-18T11:01:36","slug":"nachalos-obshhee-golosovanie-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/et\/blog\/novosti-interneta\/nachalos-obshhee-golosovanie-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian","title":{"rendered":"Debiani algatamis\u00fcsteemide \u00fcle on alanud \u00fcldine h\u00e4\u00e4letamine.","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Debiani projekt <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel-announce\/2019\/12\/msg00002.html\">kuulutas<\/a><\/noindex> alustamisest <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.debian.org\/vote\/2019\/vote_002\">\u00fcldine h\u00e4\u00e4letamine<\/a><\/noindex> (GR, \u00fcldine resolutsioon) projekti arendajate <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=51517\">k\u00fcsimuses mitme alglaadimiss\u00fcsteemi toetamise<\/a><\/noindex>, mis m\u00e4\u00e4rab projekti edasise poliitika seoses systemd-ga seotuse, alternatiivsete alglaadimiss\u00fcsteemide toetamise ja suhtlemisega derivaadidistributsioonidega, mis ei kasuta systemd-d. H\u00e4\u00e4letamine kestab kuni 27. detsembrini, tulemused kuulutatakse v\u00e4lja 28. detsembril.<\/p>\n<p>Tuletame meelde, et 2014. aastal kinnitas tehniline komitee  <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=39064\">heakskiidu<\/a><\/noindex> <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=38762\">\u00fcleminekule<\/a><\/noindex> vaikimisi distributsioonile systemd-le, kuid ei <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=39224\">moodustanud<\/a><\/noindex> otsused mitme alglaadimiss\u00fcsteemi toetamise osas (h\u00e4\u00e4letamisel v\u00f5itis punkt, mis osutab komisjoni valmiduse puudumisele selle k\u00fcsimuse lahendamiseks). Komitee juht soovitas pakettide hooldajaid s\u00e4ilitada sysvinit toetust alternatiivse alglaadimiss\u00fcsteemina, kuid m\u00e4rkis, et ei saa oma seisukohta kehtestada ja iga juhtumi puhul tuleb otsus teha s\u00f5ltumatult. <\/p>\n<p>P\u00e4rast seda tegi m\u00f5ned arendajad <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=41088\">katse korraldada<\/a><\/noindex> \u00fcldine h\u00e4\u00e4letamine, kuid eelh\u00e4\u00e4lestamine n\u00e4itas vajaduse puudumist otsustada mitme algatuss\u00fcsteemi kasutamise \u00fcle. M\u00f5ned kuud tagasi, p\u00e4rast <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=51517\">probleemide<\/a><\/noindex> paketi elogind (mis on vajalik GNOME'i toimimiseks ilma systemd-ta) lisamist testing harusse libsystemd-konflikti t\u00f5ttu, t\u00f5statas projekti Debian juht selle k\u00fcsimuse taas, kuna arendajad ei suutnud kokku leppida ja nende suhtlemine kasvas vastandumiseks ning j\u00e4i ummikusse. <\/p>\n<p>K\u00e4imasolev h\u00e4\u00e4letus kinnitab mitu k\u00e4ivituss\u00fcsteemi puudutavat poliitikat ning juhul, kui v\u00f5idab punkt, mis kohustab toetama alternatiivseid s\u00fcsteeme, ei saa hooldajad selliseid k\u00fcsimusi eirata ega venitada. Projekti juhi algselt ettepanekud h\u00e4\u00e4letuspunktid on p\u00e4rast arutelu laienenud kaheksale variandile. H\u00e4\u00e4letusel on lubatud valida mitu punkti, j\u00e4rjestades valitud elemendid eelistuse taseme j\u00e4rgi. H\u00e4\u00e4le\u00f5igust omab umbes tuhat arendajat, kes osalevad pakettide hooldamises ja infrastruktuuri toetamisel.<\/p>\n<p>Pakutavad variandid:<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> Peamine t\u00e4helepanu on suunatud systemd-le. Alternatiivsete initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteemide tugi ei ole prioriteet, kuid halduritel on \u00f5igus valikuliselt lisada pakette init-skripte sellistele s\u00fcsteemidele.\n<li class=\"l\"> Toetatakse erinevaid initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteeme ning v\u00f5imalust k\u00e4ivitada Debian-s\u00fcsteeme initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteemidega, mis erinevad systemd-st.<br \/>\nTeenuste k\u00e4ivitamiseks peavad paketid kindlasti sisaldama init-skripte; ainult systemd unit-failide tarnimine ilma sysv init-skripte ei ole lubatud.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> Eelistatud on systemd, kuid alternatiivsete initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteemide haldamine on lubatud. Tehnoloogiad, nagu elogind, mis v\u00f5imaldavad alternatiivsetes keskkondades k\u00e4ivitada systemd-le seotud rakendusi, peetakse oluliseks. Pakettidesse on lubatud lisada init-failid alternatiivsete s\u00fcsteemide jaoks.\n<li class=\"l\"> Tugite mitte systemd kasutavad s\u00fcsteemid, kuid ilma muudatusteta, mis takistavad arengut. Arendajad n\u00f5ustuvad toetama mitut alglaadimiss\u00fcsteemi l\u00e4hitulevikus, kuid peavad samas vajalikuks t\u00f6\u00f6tada systemd toe parandamise kallal. Spetsiifiliste lahenduste v\u00e4ljat\u00f6\u00f6tamise ja hooldamisega peaksid tegelema nende lahenduste huvigruppide kogukonnad, kuid teised hooldajad peaksid aktiivselt aitama ja toetama probleemide lahendamisel, kui see on vajalik. Ideaalis peaksid paketid t\u00f6\u00f6tama mis tahes alglaadimiss\u00fcsteemiga, mille jaoks saab pakkuda traditsioonilisi init-skripte v\u00f5i kasutada muid mehhanisme, mis v\u00f5imaldavad t\u00f6\u00f6tada ilma systemd-ta. T\u00f6\u00f6v\u00f5imetus ilma systemd-ta peetakse veaks, kuid mitte loodud vatuveks, v\u00e4lja arvatud juhul, kui olemas on lahendus, mis t\u00f6\u00f6tab ilma systemd-ta, kuid seda keeldutakse salvestamast (n\u00e4iteks kui probleem tuleneb varasema alglaadimisskripti eemaldamisest).\n<li class=\"l\"> \u00dcksus, mis toetab \u00fchilduvust, ilma muudatusteta, mis takistaks arengut. Debianit peetakse endiselt lahenduseks erineva tarkvara integreerimiseks, pakkudes samav\u00e4\u00e4rseid v\u00f5i sarnaseid funktsioone. \u00dchilduvus riistvara platvormide ja tarkvarastekkide vahel on oluline \u00fclesanne, ning alternatiivsete tehnoloogiate integreerimist soositatakse, isegi kui nende loojaid peetakse erinevateks arvamusteks. Suhtumine systemd ja teiste k\u00e4ivituss\u00fcsteemide suhtes on t\u00e4ielikult koosk\u00f5las neljanda punktiga.\n<li class=\"l\"> Toetuse viimine mitme k\u00e4ivituss\u00fcsteemi n\u00f5udeks. Debian'i k\u00e4ivitamise v\u00f5imalus k\u00e4ivituss\u00fcsteemidega, mis ei ole systemd, on projekti jaoks endiselt oluline. Iga pakett peab t\u00f6\u00f6tama erinevate pid1 t\u00f6\u00f6tlejatega, v\u00e4lja arvatud juhul, kui paketti sisenev tarkvara on algselt m\u00f5eldud t\u00f6\u00f6tamiseks ainult systemd-ga ja puudub toetus k\u00e4ivitamiseks ilma systemd-ta (init-skriptide puudumine ei kvalifitseeru eksklusiivsena t\u00f6\u00f6tamiseks systemd-ga).\n<li class=\"l\"> \u00dchildatavuse ja mitme rakenduse tugi. \u00dcldised p\u00f5him\u00f5tted kattuvad t\u00e4ielikult punktiga 5, kuid specific n\u00f5udeid systemd ja algatuss\u00fcsteemide suhtes ei esitata ning arendajatele ei kehtestata mingeid kohustusi. Arendajatele soovitatakse arvestada \u00fcksteise huvidega, leida kompromisse ja leitakse \u00fchised lahendused, mis rahuldavad erinevaid osalisi.\n<li class=\"l\"> Arutelu j\u00e4tkumine. 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