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V\u00f5itnud variant tunnistab, et systemd teenuse\u00fcksused on eelistatud viis deemonite ja teenuste k\u00e4ivitamise seadistamiseks, kuid tunnistab, et on olemas keskkondi, kus arendajad ja kasutajad v\u00f5ivad luua ja rakendada alternatiivseid alglaadimiss\u00fcsteeme ja funktsionaalseid alternatiive systemd v\u00f5imalustele. Alternatiivsete lahenduste arendajad vajavad ressursside tagamist oma t\u00f6\u00f6 ja pakettide vormindamise l\u00e4biviimiseks. Alternatiivsed lahendused, nagu elogind, mida kasutatakse rakenduste k\u00e4ivitamise korraldamiseks, mis on seotud systemd-spetsiifiliste liidestega, on projekti jaoks endiselt olulised. Selliste algatuste toetamine n\u00f5uab koost\u00f6\u00f6d valdkondades, kus arendatavad alternatiivsed tehnoloogiad kattuvad \u00fclej\u00e4\u00e4nud projektiga, n\u00e4iteks ei ole vastuv\u00f5etav, et pat\u0161ide \u00fclevaatamine ja arutelude l\u00e4biviimine veniksid.<\/p>\n

Pakettidesse on lubatud lisada nii systemd unit-failid kui ka init-skriptid teenuste k\u00e4ivitamiseks. Pakettid v\u00f5ivad kasutada systemd k\u00f5iki v\u00f5imalusi, mida paketi hooldaja soovib, tingimusel et need v\u00f5imalused vastavad Debian reeglite n\u00f5uetele ning ei ole seotud katsetavate v\u00f5i Debianis toetamata v\u00f5imalustega teistest pakettidest. Lisaks systemd-le v\u00f5ivad paketid sisaldada ka alternatiivsete alguss\u00fcsteemide toetust ning pakkuda komponente systemd-spetsiifiliste liideste asendamiseks. Otsuseid patchide lisamise kohta teevad hooldajad vastavalt tavap\u00e4rastele protseduuridele. Debian on kohustunud t\u00f6\u00f6tama koos tuletatud distributsioonidega, kes on valinud endale muid alguss\u00fcsteeme, kuid koost\u00f6\u00f6 toimub hooldajate tasemel, kellele lasub vastutus, milliseid kolmandate osapoolte distributsioonide valmistatud v\u00f5imalusi aktsepteerida Debiani p\u00f5hipakettides ja milliseid j\u00e4tta tuletatud distributsioonidesse.<\/p>\n

Tuletame meelde, et 2014. aastal kinnitas tehniline komitee heakskiidu<\/a><\/noindex> \u00fcleminekule<\/a><\/noindex> vaikimisi distributsioonile systemd-le, kuid ei moodustanud<\/a><\/noindex> lahendused mitme algatuss\u00fcsteemi toetuse osas (h\u00e4\u00e4letuse tulemusena selgus, et komitee ei ole valmis selle k\u00fcsimuse \u00fcle otsustama). Komitee juht soovitas pakettide toetamisel j\u00e4tta sysvinit alternatiivseks algatuss\u00fcsteemiks, kuid m\u00e4rkis, et ei saa oma arvamust peale suruda ja igal juhul tuleks otsused teha iseseisvalt. <\/p>\n

P\u00e4rast seda tegi m\u00f5ned arendajad katse korraldada<\/a><\/noindex> \u00fcldine h\u00e4\u00e4letamine, kuid eelh\u00e4\u00e4lestamine n\u00e4itas vajaduse puudumist otsustada mitme algatuss\u00fcsteemi kasutamise \u00fcle. M\u00f5ned kuud tagasi, p\u00e4rast probleemide<\/a><\/noindex> paketi elogind (mis on vajalik GNOME'i toimimiseks ilma systemd-ta) lisamist testing harusse libsystemd-konflikti t\u00f5ttu, t\u00f5statas projekti Debian juht selle k\u00fcsimuse taas, kuna arendajad ei suutnud kokku leppida ja nende suhtlemine kasvas vastandumiseks ning j\u00e4i ummikusse. <\/p>\n

Arutatud valikud:<\/p>\n

  • Peamine t\u00e4helepanu on suunatud systemd-le. Alternatiivsete initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteemide tugi ei ole prioriteet, kuid halduritel on \u00f5igus valikuliselt lisada pakette init-skripte sellistele s\u00fcsteemidele.\n<\/li>\n
  • Eelistatud on systemd, kuid alternatiivsete initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteemide haldamine on lubatud. Tehnoloogiad, nagu elogind, mis v\u00f5imaldavad alternatiivsetes keskkondades k\u00e4ivitada systemd-le seotud rakendusi, peetakse oluliseks. Pakettidesse on lubatud lisada init-failid alternatiivsete s\u00fcsteemide jaoks.\n<\/li>\n
  • Toetatakse erinevaid initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteeme ning v\u00f5imalust k\u00e4ivitada Debian-s\u00fcsteeme initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteemidega, mis erinevad systemd-st.
    \nTeenuste k\u00e4ivitamiseks peavad paketid kindlasti sisaldama init-skripte; ainult systemd unit-failide tarnimine ilma sysv init-skripte ei ole lubatud.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n
  • S\u00fcsteemide toetamine, mis ei kasuta systemd, kuid ilma arendustegevusele takistuste lisamiseta. Arendajad n\u00f5ustuvad toetama mitmeid initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteeme l\u00e4hitulevikus, kuid leiavad samuti, et on vajalik t\u00f6\u00f6tada systemd toetuse parandamise nimel. Spetsiifiliste lahenduste arendamise ja hooldamisega peaksid tegelema nendes lahendustes huvitatud kogukonnad, kuid teised hooldajad peavad aktiivselt aitama ja toetama probleemide lahendamisel, kui see on vajalik. Ideaalis peaksid paketid funktsioneerima igas initsialiseerimiss\u00fcsteemis, mille jaoks saab pakkuda traditsioonilisi init-skripte v\u00f5i kasutada muid mehhanisme, mis v\u00f5imaldavad t\u00f6\u00f6tada ilma systemd-ta. Vaba opereerimise v\u00f5ime puudumist ilma systemd-ta k\u00e4sitletakse veana, kuid mitte viga, mis blokeeriks vabastamise, v\u00e4lja arvatud juhtudel, kui on olemas valmis lahendus, et t\u00f6\u00f6tada ilma systemd-ta, kuid selle s\u00e4ilitamisest keeldutakse (n\u00e4iteks kui probleem on tingitud varasematest init-skriptide eemaldamisest).\n<\/li>\n
  • \u00dcksus, mis toetab \u00fchilduvust, ilma muudatusteta, mis takistaks arengut. Debianit peetakse endiselt lahenduseks erineva tarkvara integreerimiseks, pakkudes samav\u00e4\u00e4rseid v\u00f5i sarnaseid funktsioone. \u00dchilduvus riistvara platvormide ja tarkvarastekkide vahel on oluline \u00fclesanne, ning alternatiivsete tehnoloogiate integreerimist soositatakse, isegi kui nende loojaid peetakse erinevateks arvamusteks. Suhtumine systemd ja teiste k\u00e4ivituss\u00fcsteemide suhtes on t\u00e4ielikult koosk\u00f5las neljanda punktiga.\n<\/li>\n
  • Toetuse viimine mitme k\u00e4ivituss\u00fcsteemi n\u00f5udeks. Debian'i k\u00e4ivitamise v\u00f5imalus k\u00e4ivituss\u00fcsteemidega, mis ei ole systemd, on projekti jaoks endiselt oluline. Iga pakett peab t\u00f6\u00f6tama erinevate pid1 t\u00f6\u00f6tlejatega, v\u00e4lja arvatud juhul, kui paketti sisenev tarkvara on algselt m\u00f5eldud t\u00f6\u00f6tamiseks ainult systemd-ga ja puudub toetus k\u00e4ivitamiseks ilma systemd-ta (init-skriptide puudumine ei kvalifitseeru eksklusiivsena t\u00f6\u00f6tamiseks systemd-ga).\n<\/li>\n
  • \u00dchildatavuse ja mitme rakenduse tugi. \u00dcldised p\u00f5him\u00f5tted kattuvad t\u00e4ielikult punktiga 5, kuid specific n\u00f5udeid systemd ja algatuss\u00fcsteemide suhtes ei esitata ning arendajatele ei kehtestata mingeid kohustusi. Arendajatele soovitatakse arvestada \u00fcksteise huvidega, leida kompromisse ja leitakse \u00fchised lahendused, mis rahuldavad erinevaid osalisi.\n<\/li>\n
  • Arutelu j\u00e4tkumine. Punkti saab kasutada vastuv\u00f5etamatute valikute hinde langetamiseks.\n<\/li>\n

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