{"id":74736,"date":"2020-03-20T08:43:07","date_gmt":"2020-03-20T05:43:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/administrirovanie\/antipatterny-devops-sobesedovaniya"},"modified":"2020-03-20T08:43:07","modified_gmt":"2020-03-20T05:43:07","slug":"antipatterny-devops-sobesedovaniya","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/et\/blog\/administrirovanie\/antipatterny-devops-sobesedovaniya","title":{"rendered":"DevOps'i intervjuude anti-mustrid","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"

Tere k\u00f5igile, mu kallid lugejad!<\/p>\n

T\u00e4na tahan jagada oma m\u00f5tteid ammustest teemadest ja v\u00f5ib-olla arutada neid kommentaarides.
\nSageli satun artiklite peale kehvade praktikate kohta intervjuudel, mis minu arvates on piisavalt elulised ja loodetavasti loetavad ka ettev\u00f5tete HR osakondade jaoks, olgu need suured v\u00f5i v\u00e4ikesed.
\n<\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n

Meie kandis on n\u00f5udlus huvitavate erialade, nagu DevOps insener, \u00fcsna suur. Ma kuulun nende inimeste hulka, kes ei pruugi seda v\u00e4ljendit eriti t\u00f5siselt v\u00f5tta (jah, jah, DevOps metodoloogia jne), seega n\u00e4en eri teed arengus nende spetsialistide seas.
\nEsiteks usun kindlalt, et igal inimesel on oma huvide ring, isegi t\u00f6\u00f6s, st kellelegi meeldib tegeleda pilvetehnoloogiatega, kellelegi s\u00fcveneda rakendusserveritesse, s\u00fcgavalt Java konfigureerida, kellegile aga kodeerida Pythonis v\u00f5i halvemal juhul YAML-koodi kirjutada. Nii et siia tekivad nn infrastruktuuri insenerid, ehituse insenerid, vanem YAML arendaja \ud83d\ude42
\nSee v\u00f5imaldab \u00fchelt poolt leida inimesi, kes sobivad teie \u00fclesannete hulka, ja teiselt poolt tekitab arusaamatusi vestlustes.
\nP\u00f5hinedes isiklikul kogemusel, olen teinud mitmeid k\u00fcmneidvestlusi ning osalenud erinevates rollides vastajana, ja soovin jagada oma vaadet kogu toimuvale.<\/p>\n

Esimene ja v\u00f5ib-olla minu lemmik antipattern on soov leida keegi, kes teeks k\u00f5ike, v\u00f5i et mitte teada, kes tegelikult on vajalik, vaatame palju kandidaate ja siis m\u00f5istame. See kehtib t\u00f5en\u00e4oliselt igas valdkonnas, kuid siin on omad erip\u00e4rad.
\nKuidas olen t\u00e4hele pannud, on inimesed rohkem huvitatud t\u00f6\u00f6kohtadest, kus on s\u00f5na DevOps, kui s\u00fcsteemiadministraator, kuigi minu arvates eristatavad \u00fclesanded nendes kahes valdkonnas on vanuse j\u00e4rgi oluliselt erinevad.
\nIga t\u00f6\u00f6andja, kellele tegelikult on vajalik s\u00fcsteemiadministraator, kirjutab t\u00f6\u00f6kuulutuse pealkirjas DevOps, loetledes taotluse sisus absoluutselt k\u00f5ik, K8S\/Java\/gradle\/oracleDB jms, kuigi seestpoolt tuleb inimesel tegeleda K8S klastrite ja OracleDB toe hooldamisega eraldiseisvalt meeskonnast.
\nNoh, kuidas on sellise koost\u00f6\u00f6 vormiga arendajate\/operatsioonide vahel?
\nSelgub see, et sellise meeskonnaga suhtlemise protsess ei ole ette n\u00e4htud ja tegelikult ei eksisteeri ka operatsioonide osakonda, seega on teil ette v\u00f5tta arendajate arvutite seadistamine.
\nSee variant sobib t\u00f5esti osale kandidaatidele, aga olgem ausad, see on ju Senior System Administrator, miks siis ei kirjutata nii ja mis selles h\u00e4biv\u00e4\u00e4rset on? Erinevused palkades erinevate ametinimetuste vahel? Kuid ettev\u00f5tte eelarve on sama, ja kuidas laeva ka ei nimetaks, ujub see ikka oma eelarve piires.
\nKuule, olen isegi kuulnud, et praegu automatiseerivad kandidaadid k\u00f5ik kiiresti \u00e4ra ja saavad Pythonis toote arendusesse sisse, mis vahet seal on, Python on igal pool sama. Maailmavaade ja l\u00e4henemisviisid ei ole arvesse v\u00f5etud.<\/p>\n

Tavaliselt eristan ma spetsialistide taset, kes tulevad, ning n\u00e4en igasuguseid raskusi igale eraldi.
\nJunior \u2014 minule on Junior DevOps inimene, kes on saavutanud kesktaseme s\u00fcsteemiadministreerimises \/ arendamises. Siin on meeldiv eristada tugevaid Linuxi entusiaste, kes soovivad kasvada uuel alal, v\u00f5i arendajaid, kellel on soov teha head teistele arendajatele. Tugevaid, kellel on mingid h\u00e4\u00e4lestamisoskused, logide otsimine v\u00f5i koodiga seotud projektidest mingi varu.
\nOlen kohanud nii s\u00fcsteemiadministreerijaid, kes on proovinud mingit uut ja soovivad kogeda pilvetehnoloogiaid, kui ka neid, kes on proovinud frontend'i, backend'i ja mingitel p\u00f5hjustel avastanud huvi DevOpsi protsesside vastu.
\nSellel tasemel h\u00e4irib mind alati, kui hakkavad r\u00e4\u00e4kima tohutust tehnoloogiate kuhjast, nagu Puppet, Ansible \u2014 miks ei ole k\u00f5ike proovitud? K8S, K3S \u2014 millega nad erinevad? Kui palju andmebaaside t\u00fc\u00fcpe sa tead? Miks nii v\u00e4he? Kuidas Java-s kr\u00fcpteerimine t\u00f6\u00f6tab? Eriti neid, kes on tulnud arendusest, kuigi nad on v\u00e4ga kasulikud t\u00f6\u00f6tajad, neile on alati t\u00f6\u00f6d selles valdkonnas.
\nMind always gets perplexed when such things happen; the first question that comes to mind is \u2014 why??? The second thought that arises is \u2014 is the interviewer even ready to answer questions about such a diverse stack? Do they really want to hire a junior and throw everything on them?
\nSuch situations often occur in various body shops when it's necessary to sell someone for a project, and more impressive words are needed for the resume, or the company simply doesn't want to hire anyone and just observes what juniors are available.<\/p>\n

Middle level
\nThere are a few extremes in my opinion; firstly, it\u2019s probably difficult to clearly determine that a person is fit for middle level, either they are being pushed down to junior level or treated like seniors, trying to get a senior for the price of a middle (you know, the market decides, it's nothing personal).
\nThe most astonishing thing I've seen \u2014 getting deep into coding, using Python, struggling with Java GC, diving into more specific topics, or alternatively, uncovering gaps in long-unused knowledge, running through networks, OS driver types, smirking and gleefully thinking about how a person could forget this. And then, the most interesting thing happens!
\nMinu arvates kujuneb keskastme spetsialistil v\u00e4lja huvikreis ja isiklik vaatenurk selle osas, millega ta soovib tegeleda \u2014 kas t\u00f5usta esile k\u00f5ige uuemal tehnoloogial v\u00f5i keskenduda keerulistele ettev\u00f5tte projektidele, s\u00fcvenedes koodi j\u00f5udlusse.
\nMina arvaks, et siin tasub juba uurida protsesse, millega inimene on t\u00f6\u00f6tanud, k\u00fcsida, mis oli k\u00f5ige huvitavam ja mis mitte, ning selle p\u00f5hjal koostada k\u00fcsimuste klaster, kindlasti seostades k\u00fcsimusi oma tehnoloogiaga. Vastasel juhul, veetes p\u00f5neva tunni kaks OpenShifti klastrite konfigureerimise \u00fcle, palkate inimese, et ta tegeleks monitooringuga. See meeldib t\u00f5en\u00e4oliselt m\u00f5lemale poolele.<\/p>\n

Seniori tase
\nAh, minu lemmiktase.
\nTeie ees on tugev spetsialist, kes on end \u00fcles kasvatanud erinevatel projektidel, inimene, kes juba teab, mida ta tahab, ja mis ei meeldi nii v\u00e4ga.
\nJa nii algab show:
\n \u2014 s\u00fcgavad k\u00fcsimused s\u00fcsteemiadministreerimise kohta (vt esimene antipattern)
\n \u2014 s\u00fcgavad k\u00fcsimused Linuxi kohta \u00fcldiselt teooria valdkonnast, mis on kaugel praktilisest teadmisest (OSI tasemed, peamine k\u00fcsimus)
\n \u2014 akadeemilised k\u00fcsimused koodi kohta (sest intervjuu l\u00e4biviija ei tea valdkonnast eriti midagi, teda paluti lihtsalt intervjuud l\u00e4bi viia veidi kummalise devopsiga)
\nTeen siia v\u00e4ikese m\u00e4rkuse. \u00dchel korral paluti mul intervjuul kirjutada mingi koodil\u00f5ik. Paberile. Noh, nagu k\u00f5ik armastavad, kirjutavad iga p\u00e4ev, paber on meie k\u00f5ik.
\nKuna \u00fclesanne oli lahendatud, vaadates minu paberit ja lahendust, anti verditkt, et algoritm ei ole optimaalne. Ma pakkusin, et intervjueerija kirjutaks oma algoritmi, millele sain vastuseks \u00abSee ei kuulu intervjuu raamidesse\u00bb. Palusin minut aega, tegin koodi natuke \u00fcmber ja n\u00e4itasin, k\u00fcsides, kas see on n\u00fc\u00fcd kiiremini v\u00f5i aeglasemalt? Vastuseks sain, et liigume j\u00e4rgmise k\u00fcsimuse juurde. Erinevus oli koodi t\u00f6\u00f6tamises ts\u00fcklis ja ts\u00fcklita ning mul oli valmis vastus, miks on parem teha nii, mitte naa. Noh, p\u00e4rast seda ei olnud mul enam soovi k\u00fcsimustele vastata ja selle inimesega t\u00f6\u00f6tada.
\nPeab arvestama, et k\u00f5ik me oleme erinevad ja kandidaati v\u00f5ib \u00e4ra hirmutada mis tahes asi, mis teie jaoks ei ole oluline.
\n \u2014 tavaliselt on vanema taseme spetsialistide t\u00f6\u00f6riistakomplekt selgelt m\u00e4\u00e4ratletud, kuid tuleb alustada midagi l\u00e4hedast, n\u00e4iteks, kui teil on kirjas Ansible, siis meil on Puppet, ja me lihtsalt kutsusime teid siia, r\u00e4\u00e4kige meile Puppetist. Suurep\u00e4rane! Kas olete t\u00f6\u00f6tanud OpenShiftiga? Meil on K8s, me ei tunne erinevusi, kuid teie kogemus pole asjakohane. V\u00e4ga hea! <\/p>\n

On veel selline alamklass \u2014 mina isiklikult v\u00f5tan endale praktikante, et kasvatada neist algajaid.
\nTahaks, et k\u00f5ik m\u00f5istaks, et praktikant on veel t\u00e4ielikult kujunemata olend. Mind hirmutab hirmsasti, kui praktikante hakkavad t\u00f5ukama tasemele tugev Junior ja seej\u00e4rel pakuvad rahuldava ilmega praktikakohta (m\u00f5nikord tasustamata, \u00f5udne!)
\n\u00c4ra tee nii.
\nMinu arvates on praktikant kas vanema kursuse \u00fcli\u00f5pilane v\u00f5i keegi, kes t\u00f5eliselt soovib \"IT-sse minna\".
\n\u00dcli\u00f5pilastega on k\u00f5ik lihtne \u2014 on suurep\u00e4rane teada, millega nad \u00fclikoolis tegelevad, mida nad ise on teinud, vaadata, milliste k\u00fcsimustega nende silmad hakkavad s\u00e4rama \u2014 kui s\u00e4ravad, siis k\u00fcsida, miks just devops ja mida nad sellest \u00fcldse teavad. Tunda inimest ja aru saada, kas temaga on m\u00f5nus edasi t\u00f6\u00f6tada ja kas tahaks just sellele inimesele midagi \u00f5petada.
\nNendega, kes soovivad IT-sse minna, on natuke rangemad n\u00f5uded \u2014 vaadake, kui h\u00e4sti inimene iseennast harib, mida ta on teinud enne, kui teie juurde intervjuule tuli. Hea variant oleks vaadata tema GitHub'i, kui see olemas on, kommiti tihedus ja milliseid harjutusi ta on teinud. K\u00fcsige ka, miks DevOps, kui front-endis on l\u00f5busam ja keerukam? <\/p>\n

L\u00f5petuseks sooviksin anda veel \u00fche n\u00f5uande: otsustage, kes te tegelikult vajate, ja leiate kohe vajaliku inimese. Selgitage v\u00e4lja vajadused, vaadake spetsialisti kui spetsialisti, leidke tema tugevused ja kasutage neid oma t\u00f6\u00f6s edukalt. Olge kandidaadi suhtes t\u00e4helepanelik, ta tuli teiega vestlusele, mitte kellelgi on v\u00f5istlus, kes kedagi alt veab v\u00f5i ei veada.
\n
Allikas: habr.com<\/a> <\/p>","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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