ʻO Habr Special kahi podcast kahi e kono ai mākou i nā mea papahana, nā mea kākau, nā ʻepekema, nā ʻoihana a me nā poʻe hoihoi ʻē aʻe. ʻO ka malihini o ka māhele mua ʻo Daniil Turovsky, kahi mea kākau kūikawā no Medusa, nāna i kākau i ka puke "Invasion. He moʻolelo pōkole o nā mea hoʻokele Lūkini." Aia ka puke i nā mokuna 40 e kamaʻilio e pili ana i ka puka ʻana o ke kaiāulu hacker ʻōlelo Lūkini, mua ma ka USSR hope, a laila ma Rusia, a me ka mea i alakaʻi ʻia i kēia manawa. Ua lawe ʻia nā makahiki o ka mea kākau e hōʻiliʻili i ka invoice, akā he mau mahina wale nō e paʻi ai, ʻo ia ka wikiwiki loa e ka paʻi ʻana i nā kūlana. Me ka ʻae o ka hale paʻi ʻo Individuum mākou e paʻi nei , a i loko o kēia pou, aia kahi kope o nā mea hoihoi loa mai kā mākou kamaʻilio ʻana.
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E pili ana i nā koa o ka puke a me nā lawelawe kūikawā
— E haʻi mai iā mākou e pili ana i ka mālama koʻikoʻi i mālama ʻia e ka poʻe āu i hālāwai ai i ka wā e hōʻiliʻili ai i ka invoice.
— ʻO ka pinepine, hoʻomaka kēia mau kamaʻāina me ka hoʻolauna ʻana iā ʻoe i kekahi. Hoʻomaopopo ʻoe he pono ʻoe i kēia kanaka, a hoʻokokoke ʻoe iā ia ma o nā poʻe he nui. A i ʻole, me ka ʻole o ke kanaka proxy, hiki ʻole.
Ua mālama ʻia kekahi mau hālāwai ma nā alanui a i ʻole kokoke i nā kahua kaʻaahi. No ka mea, nui ka poʻe ma laila i ka hola wikiwiki, walaʻau, ʻaʻohe mea e hoʻolohe iā ʻoe. A hele ʻoe i ka pōʻai a kamaʻilio. A ʻaʻole wale kēia ma kēia kumuhana. He ala maʻamau kēia o ke kamaʻilio ʻana me nā kumu - hui i nā wahi "hina" loa: kokoke i ke alanui, ma waho.
Aia nā kamaʻilio ʻaʻole i komo i loko o ka puke. Aia kekahi poʻe i hōʻoia i kekahi mau ʻike, a ʻaʻole hiki ke kamaʻilio e pili ana iā lākou a i ʻole ka haʻi ʻana iā lākou. Ua ʻoi aku ka paʻakikī o ka hui ʻana me lākou.
Ma Invasion aia ka nele o nā moʻolelo mai loko mai o nā lawelawe naʻauao, no ka mea, he kumuhana paʻa loa kēia, ʻoiaʻiʻo. Makemake au e hele e kipa iā lākou a ʻike i ke ʻano o ia mea - e kamaʻilio ma ka liʻiliʻi loa me nā poʻe mai nā pūʻali cyber Russian. Akā ʻo nā pane maʻamau he "ʻaʻohe manaʻo" a "ʻaʻole pili i kēia kumuhana."
Ke nānā nei kēia mau hulina me he mea lapuwale. ʻO nā hālāwai kūkā Cybersecurity wale nō kahi e hiki ai iā ʻoe ke hālāwai me nā poʻe mai laila. Hoʻokokoke ʻoe i nā mea hoʻonohonoho a nīnau: aia kekahi poʻe mai ka Ministry of Defense a i ʻole FSB? Haʻi lākou iā ʻoe: he poʻe kēia me ka ʻole o ka hōʻailona. A hele ʻoe ma waena o ka lehulehu, e ʻimi ana i nā poʻe me ka ʻole o ka hōʻailona. ʻAʻole ka helu lanakila. E ʻike ʻoe iā lākou, akā ʻaʻohe mea i hiki. Nīnau ʻoe: no hea ʻoe? - ʻAe, ʻae, akā ʻaʻole mākou e kamaʻilio. He poʻe kānalua loa kēia.
— ʻO ia hoʻi, i nā makahiki o ka hana ʻana i ke kumuhana, ʻaʻole i loaʻa kahi pilina mai laila?
- ʻAʻole, aia nō, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻole ma o nā ʻaha kūkā, akā ma o nā hoaaloha.
— He aha ka mea e hoʻokaʻawale ai i ka poʻe mai nā keʻena naʻauao mai nā mea hackers maʻamau?
- ʻO ka ʻāpana ideological, ʻoiaʻiʻo. ʻAʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke hana ma nā keʻena a ʻaʻole maopopo iā mākou he mau ʻenemi haole. Hana ʻoe no ke kālā liʻiliʻi loa. I loko o nā keʻena noiʻi, no ka laʻana, kahi e komo ikaika ai lākou i ka pale, he haʻahaʻa haʻahaʻa nā uku. I ka pae mua, he 27 tausani mau rubles, ʻoiai ʻo ka mea pono ʻoe e ʻike i nā mea he nui. Inā ʻaʻole kuhikuhi ʻia ʻoe ma nā manaʻo, ʻaʻole ʻoe e hana ma laila. ʻOiaʻiʻo, aia ke kūpaʻa: i loko o 10 mau makahiki e loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi uku o 37 tausani rubles, a laila hoʻomaha ʻoe me ka piʻi nui. Akā inā mākou e kamaʻilio e pili ana i nā ʻokoʻa ma ke ʻano nui, a laila ʻaʻohe ʻokoʻa nui loa i ka kamaʻilio. Inā ʻaʻole ʻoe e kamaʻilio ma kekahi mau kumuhana, ʻaʻole maopopo ʻoe.
— Ma hope o ka paʻi ʻia ʻana o ka puke, ʻaʻohe mau leka mai nā pūʻali palekana?
- ʻAʻole lākou e kākau iā ʻoe. He mau hana hāmau kēia.
Ua loaʻa iaʻu kahi manaʻo ma hope o ka paʻi ʻia ʻana o ka puke e hele i nā keʻena āpau a kau i ko lākou puka. Akā naʻe, manaʻo wau he ʻano hana hana kēia.
— Ua haʻi anei nā huaʻōlelo i loko o ka puke?
— ʻO ka manawa ma hope o ka paʻi ʻia ʻana o kahi puke he manawa paʻakikī loa ia no ka mea kākau. Hele ʻoe a puni ke kūlanakauhale a manaʻo mau ʻoe e nānā mai kekahi iā ʻoe. He manaʻo luhi ia, a me ka puke e lōʻihi ka lōʻihi no ka mea ʻoi aku ka lohi [ma mua o kahi ʻatikala].
Ua kūkākūkā au me nā mea kākau moʻolelo ʻē aʻe i ka lōʻihi o ka manawa o ka pane ʻana o ke ʻano, a ʻōlelo ka poʻe āpau he ʻelua mahina. Akā ua loaʻa iaʻu nā loiloi koʻikoʻi āpau aʻu e hoʻoikaika nei i nā pule ʻelua. ʻOi aku a emi mai paha nā mea a pau. Hoʻohui kekahi o nā huaʻōlelo o ka puke iaʻu i kaʻu papa inoa ma Twitter, a ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu ke ʻano o ia mea. ʻAʻole au makemake e noʻonoʻo.
Akā ʻo ka mea maikaʻi loa e pili ana i kēia mau loiloi, ʻo ka poʻe hiki ʻole iaʻu ke kamaʻilio me ka mea aia lākou i loko o nā hale paʻahao ʻAmelika ua kākau mai iaʻu a mākaukau e haʻi i kā lākou mau moʻolelo. Manaʻo wau e loaʻa hou nā mokuna ma ka paʻi ʻekolu.
— ʻO wai ka mea i hoʻopili iā ʻoe?
"ʻAʻole wau e haʻi i nā inoa, akā ʻo kēia ka poʻe i hoʻouka i nā panakō ʻAmelika a me ka e-commerce. Ua hoʻowalewale ʻia lākou i nā ʻāina ʻEulopa a i ʻole ʻAmelika, kahi i hoʻopaʻa ʻia ai ko lākou hoʻopaʻi. Akā ua hōʻea lākou i laila "hoʻokō" no ka mea ua noho lākou ma mua o 2016, i ka wā i pōkole loa nā lā palena. Inā hiki i kahi hacker Lūkini i kēia manawa, loaʻa iā ia nā makahiki he nui. I kēia manawa ua hāʻawi ʻia kekahi i 27 mau makahiki. A lawelawe kēia poʻe i kekahi no ʻeono makahiki, a ʻo kekahi no ʻehā.
— Aia anei kekahi poe i hoole e kamailio pu me oe?
- ʻOiaʻiʻo, aia mau ka poʻe like. ʻAʻole nui ka pākēneka, e like me ka hōʻike maʻamau i kekahi kumuhana. ʻO kēia ka manaʻo kupanaha o ka nūpepa - kokoke i ka poʻe a pau āu e hele mai ai me he mea lā e manaʻo ana kahi mea kākau moʻolelo e hele mai iā lākou a hoʻolohe i kā lākou moʻolelo. ʻO kēia ma muli o ka hoʻolohe ʻole ʻia o ka poʻe, akā makemake lākou e kamaʻilio e pili ana i ko lākou ʻeha, nā moʻolelo kupaianaha, nā hanana ʻē i ke ola. A ʻo nā mea aloha ʻaʻole makemake nui i kēia, no ka mea, paʻa nā mea a pau i ko lākou ola ponoʻī. No laila, i ka hiki ʻana mai o ke kanaka makemake nui e hoʻolohe iā ʻoe, ua mākaukau ʻoe e haʻi iā ia i nā mea a pau. ʻO ka manawa pinepine, he mea kupanaha loa ia e hoʻomākaukau ai ka poʻe i kā lākou mau palapala a me nā waihona me nā kiʻi. Hele mai ʻoe a waiho wale lākou ma ka papaʻaina nou. A eia ka mea nui ʻaʻole e hoʻokuʻu koke i ke kanaka ma hope o ke kamaʻilio mua ʻana.
ʻO kekahi o nā ʻōlelo aʻoaʻo nūpepa i loaʻa iaʻu mai David Hoffman, kekahi o nā mea kākau moʻolelo maikaʻi ʻole. Ua kākau ʻo ia, no ka laʻana, "The Dead Hand," he puke e pili ana i ke Kaua Cold, a me "The Million Dollar Spy," he puke maikaʻi hoʻi. ʻO ka ʻōlelo aʻo pono ʻoe e hele i ka hero i nā manawa he nui. Ua'ōleloʻo iaʻo ke kaikamahine a kekahi o nā koa o "The Dead Hand," i pili me ka Soviet air defense, no ka manawa mua i kamaʻilio nui e pili ana i kona makuakāne. A laila, hoʻi ʻo ia [Hoffman] i Moscow a hele hou mai i ona lā, a ua ʻike ʻia aia iā ia nā diary a kona makuakāne. A laila hele hou mai ʻo ia i ona lā, a i kona haʻalele ʻana, ua ʻike ʻia ʻaʻole i loaʻa iā ia nā diaries wale nō, akā i nā palapala huna. Aloha ʻo ia, a ʻo ia: "ʻAe, he mau palapala hou kaʻu i loko o kēlā pahu." Ua hana ʻo ia i kēia i nā manawa he nui, a ua hoʻopau ʻia me ka hāʻawi ʻana o ke kaikamahine a ka meʻe i nā diski me nā mea i hōʻiliʻili ʻia e kona makuakāne. I ka pōkole, pono ʻoe e kūkulu i nā pilina hilinaʻi me nā kiʻi. Pono ʻoe e hōʻike i kou hoihoi nui.
- Ma ka puke e haʻi aku ai ʻoe i ka poʻe i hana e like me nā ʻōlelo aʻoaʻo mai ka puke Hacker. Ua pololei paha ke kapa ʻana iā lākou he poʻe hackers?
"ʻO ke kaiāulu, ʻoiaʻiʻo, manaʻo lākou he mau keikikāne i hoʻoholo e loaʻa kālā. ʻAʻole mahalo nui ʻia. E like me ka hui gangster, aia ka hierarchy like. Akā, ua lilo ka paepae komo i mea paʻakikī, me he mea lā iaʻu. I kēlā manawa, uaʻoi aku ka weheʻana o nā mea a pau e pili ana i nā kuhikuhi a me ka liʻiliʻi o ka palekana. I ka hopena o nā makahiki 90 a me nā makahiki XNUMX, ʻaʻole makemake iki nā mākaʻi i kēia. A hiki i kēia manawa, inā i hoʻopaʻahao ʻia kekahi no ka hacking, ua hoʻopaʻahao ʻia ʻo ia no nā kumu hoʻokele, e like me kaʻu ʻike. Hiki ke hoʻopaʻahao ʻia nā hackers Lūkini inā hōʻoia lākou aia lākou i loko o kahi hui kalaima i hoʻonohonoho ʻia.
— He aha ka mea i hana ʻia me nā koho balota ʻAmelika ma 2016? ʻAʻole ʻoe e haʻi nui i kēia ma ka puke.
- Aia kēia ma ke kumu. Me he mea lā ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke hele i lalo o kēia manawa. ʻAʻole wau i makemake e kākau nui e pili ana iā ia a e noʻonoʻo, no ka mea, ua hana mua nā mea a pau. Ua makemake au e haʻi iā ʻoe i ka mea i hiki ke alakaʻi i kēia. ʻOiaʻiʻo, kokoke i ka puke holoʻokoʻa e pili ana i kēia.
Me he mea lā he kūlana kūlana ʻAmelika: ua hana ʻia kēia e nā limahana hana o nā lawelawe kūikawā Lūkini mai Komsomolsky Prospekt, 20. Akā ʻo ka hapa nui o ka poʻe aʻu i kamaʻilio ai e ʻōlelo nei ua mālama ʻia kekahi mea mai laila mai, akā ma ka laulā ua hana ʻia. e nā mea hoʻoheheʻe manuahi, ʻaʻole nā kumuwaiwai kanaka. He liʻiliʻi ka manawa i hala. E ʻike hou ʻia paha kēia ma hope.
E pili ana i ka puke
— Ke ʻōlelo nei ʻoe e loaʻa ana nā puke hou, nā mokuna hou. Akā, no ke aha ʻoe i koho ai i ke ʻano o ka puke ma ke ʻano he hana i pau? No ke aha ʻaʻole pūnaewele?
— ʻAʻohe mea heluhelu i nā papahana kūikawā - he pipiʻi loa a kaulana ʻole. ʻOiai he nani ke nānā aku, ʻoiaʻiʻo. Ua hoʻomaka ka boom ma hope o ka papahana Snow Fall, i hoʻokuʻu ʻia e ka New York Times (ma 2012 - memo a ka mea hoʻoponopono). ʻAʻole maikaʻi kēia hana no ka mea ʻaʻole makemake ka poʻe ma ka pūnaewele e hoʻolilo ma mua o 20 mau minuke ma ke kikokikona. ʻOiai ma Medusa, lōʻihi ka heluhelu ʻana i nā kikokikona nui. A inā ʻoi aku ka nui, ʻaʻohe mea e heluhelu.
He puke heluhelu pule pule ka puke, he puke pai pule pule. No ka laʻana, ʻo The New Yorker, kahi e lōʻihi ai nā kikokikona e like me ka hapakolu o kahi puke. Noho ʻoe i lalo a luʻu ʻia i hoʻokahi kaʻina hana.
— E haʻi mai iaʻu pehea ʻoe i hoʻomaka ai e hana i ka puke?
— Ua ʻike au e pono iaʻu ke kākau i kēia puke i ka hoʻomaka ʻana o 2015, i koʻu hele ʻana i kahi huakaʻi ʻoihana i Bangkok. Ke hana nei au i moʻolelo e pili ana iā Humpty Dumpty (blog "Anonymous International" - ka moʻolelo a ka mea hoʻoponopono) a i koʻu hālāwai ʻana me lākou, ʻike wau he honua huna ʻike ʻole kēia i aneane ʻike ʻole ʻia. Makemake au i nā moʻolelo e pili ana i ka poʻe me nā "pālua lalo" i ke ola maʻamau e nānā maʻamau, akā hiki koke ke hana i kahi mea maʻamau.
Mai ka makahiki 2015 a hiki i ka hopena o 2017, aia kahi hana ikaika o ka hōʻiliʻili ʻana i nā mea leʻaleʻa, nā mea a me nā moʻolelo. I koʻu ʻike ʻana ua hōʻiliʻili ʻia ka waihona, ua hele au i ʻAmelika e kākau ai, e loaʻa ana i kahi hui.
- No ke aha ma laila?
— ʻOiaʻiʻo, no ka mea, ua loaʻa iaʻu kēia hui. Ua hoʻouna au i kahi palapala noi e ʻōlelo ana he papahana kaʻu a makemake au i ka manawa a me ka manawa e hana ai me ia wale nō. No ka mea hiki ʻole ke kākau puke inā hana ʻoe i kēlā me kēia lā. Ua hoʻomaha wau mai Medusa ma kaʻu kālā ponoʻī a hele i Wakinekona no ʻehā mahina. He mahina ʻehā ia. Ala au i kakahiaka nui, aʻo i ka puke a hiki i ka hola ʻekolu o ka ʻauinalā, a ma hope iho he manawa kaʻawale kaʻu heluhelu, nānā kiʻiʻoniʻoni, a hui pū me nā mea hoʻolaha ʻAmelika.
ʻO ke kākau ʻana i ke kiʻi puke i kēia mau mahina ʻehā. A i Malaki 2018 ua hoʻi au me ka manaʻo ʻaʻole maikaʻi ʻo ia.
— ʻO kēia paha kou manaʻo a i ʻole ka manaʻo o ka mea hoʻoponopono?
— Ua puka iki mai ka lunahooponopono, aka, i kela manawa, o ko'u manao no ia. Loaʻa iaʻu - mai nā mea a pau aʻu e hana ai. He manaʻo olakino maikaʻi kēia o ka inaina iā ʻoe iho a me ka hauʻoli no ka mea hiki iā ʻoe ke ulu. E lilo ana ia i ala ʻino loa ke hoʻomaka ʻoe e kanu [i ka hana], a laila ua ʻino loa.
Ma Malaki wale nō, ua hoʻomaka wau e kanu iaʻu iho a ʻaʻole i hoʻopau i ke kiʻi no ka manawa lōʻihi loa. No ka mea, ʻo ke kikoo ka pae mua wale nō. Ma kahi ma mua o ka waena o ke kauwela, manaʻo wau e pono iaʻu e haʻalele i ka papahana. Akā, ua ʻike au he liʻiliʻi loa nā mea i koe, a ʻaʻole au i makemake i kēia papahana e hana hou i ka hopena o nā mea ʻelua i loaʻa iaʻu - ʻelua mau puke ʻaʻole i paʻi ʻia. He mau papahana kēia e pili ana i nā limahana hana ma 2014 a e pili ana i ka Islamic State ma 2014-2016. Ua kākau ʻia nā kiʻi kiʻi, akā ʻaʻole i piha piha.
Noho wau i lalo, nānā i ka papahana i loaʻa iaʻu, ʻike i ka mea i nalowale, hoʻohui i ka hoʻolālā, a hoʻoponopono hou. Ua hoʻoholo wau e lilo kēia i mea heluhelu kaulana loa, ma ke ʻano he maʻalahi ka heluhelu ʻana, a māhele ʻia i nā mokuna liʻiliʻi, no ka mea ʻaʻole mākaukau nā mea a pau e heluhelu i nā moʻolelo nui i kēia manawa.
Ua mahele ʻia ka puke i ʻehā ʻāpana: Roots, Money, Power and War. Ua manaʻo wau ʻaʻole lawa nā moʻolelo no ka moʻolelo mua. A ʻaʻole paha i lawa. No laila e loaʻa iā mākou kahi hoʻohui a hoʻohui mākou iā lākou ma laila.
I kēia manawa, ua ʻae au me ka mea hoʻoponopono, no ka mea, ʻaʻole hiki ke hana ʻia nā kikokikona lōʻihi a me nā puke me ka ʻole o ka mea hoʻoponopono. ʻO Alexander Gorbachev, koʻu hoa hana a mākou e hana nei ma Meduza i kēlā manawa, ka mea hoʻoponopono maikaʻi loa o nā kikokikona moʻolelo ma Rusia. Ua ʻike mākou iā ia no ka manawa lōʻihi - mai ka makahiki 2011, i kā mākou hana ʻana ma Afisha - a hoʻomaopopo kekahi i kekahi ma ke ʻano o nā kikokikona e 99%. Noho mākou i lalo a kūkākūkā i ka hale a hoʻoholo i ka mea e pono e hana hou. A hiki i ʻOkakopa-Nowemapa ua hoʻopau wau i nā mea a pau, a laila hoʻomaka ka hoʻoponopono, a ma Malaki 2019 ua hele ka puke i ka hale paʻi.
— Me he mea la, ma na kulana o na hale hoolaha, aole nui loa na malama elua mai Maraki a Mei.
— ʻAe, makemake au e hana pū me ka hale paʻi puke ʻo Individual. ʻO ia ke kumu aʻu i koho ai, me ka hoʻomaopopo ʻana e hoʻonohonoho ʻia nā mea āpau i kēia ala. A no ka mea e maʻalili ka uhi. Ma hope o nā mea a pau, i loko o nā hale paʻi puke ʻo Rūsia he ʻano ʻino a ʻano ʻē paha nā uhi.
Uaʻikeʻia uaʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o nā mea a pau ma mua o koʻu manaʻo. Ua hele ka puke ma nā helu ʻelua, ua hana ʻia kahi uhi no ia, a ua paʻi ʻia. A ʻelua mahina kēia mau mea.
— Ua hoʻololi ʻia kāu hana nui ma Medusa i alakaʻi iā ʻoe e kākau i nā puke i nā manawa he nui?
— Ma muli o kaʻu hana ʻana i nā kikokikona lōʻihi no nā makahiki he nui. No ka hoʻomākaukauʻana iā lākou, ponoʻoe e hoʻonui i ke kumuhana ma mua o ka hōʻike maʻamau. He mau makahiki kēia, ʻoiai ʻo wau, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻole wau he loea i kekahi a i ʻole kekahi. ʻO ia hoʻi, ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻohālikelike iaʻu me nā mea noiʻi ʻepekema - ʻo ia nō ka nūpepa, ʻoi aku ka papa.
Akā inā ʻoe e hana i kahi kumuhana no nā makahiki he nui, e hōʻiliʻili ʻoe i ka nui pupule o ke ʻano a me nā kiʻi i hoʻokomo ʻole ʻia i loko o nā mea Medusa. Ua hoʻomākaukau au i ke kumuhana no ka manawa lōʻihi, akā i ka hopena hoʻokahi wale nō kikokikona i puka mai, a maopopo iaʻu ua hiki iaʻu ke hele ma ʻaneʻi a ma ʻaneʻi.
— Manaʻo anei ʻoe i ka holomua o ka puke?
- E loaʻa nō kahi hoʻolaha hou aku, no ka mea, ʻaneʻane pau kēia - 5000 kope. Ma Rusia, ʻelima tausani ka nui. Inā kūʻai ʻia ʻo 2000, wehe ka hale paʻi i ka champagne. ʻOiai, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ke hoʻohālikelike ʻia i nā manaʻo ma Medusa, he mau helu liʻiliʻi kēia.
— Ehia ke kumukuai o ka buke?
— Ma ka pepa — ma kahi o 500 ₽. ʻOi aku ke kumukūʻai o nā puke i kēia manawa. Ua lōʻihi koʻu kiʻi ʻana i kaʻu hoki a e kūʻai aku ana au i ka "Hale Aupuni" o Slezkine - ʻelua tausani ke kumukūʻai. A i ka lā aʻu i mākaukau ai, hāʻawi mai lākou iaʻu.
— Aia kekahi mau manaʻo e unuhi i ka "Invasion" i ka ʻōlelo Pelekania?
- ʻOiaʻiʻo ua loaʻa iaʻu. Mai ka manaʻo o ka heluhelu ʻana, ʻoi aku ka nui o ka paʻi ʻia ʻana o ka puke ma ka ʻōlelo Pelekania - ʻoi aku ka nui o ka lehulehu. Ke hele nei nā kūkākūkā me kahi mea hoʻopuka ʻAmelika no kekahi manawa, akā ʻaʻole maopopo i ka wā e hoʻokuʻu ʻia ai.
Wahi a kekahi poʻe i heluhelu i ka puke, me he mea lā ua kākau ʻia no kēlā mākeke. Aia kekahi mau huaʻōlelo i loko o ia mea ʻaʻole pono ka mea heluhelu Lūkini. Aia nā wehewehe e like me "Sapsan (ke kaʻaahi kiʻekiʻe mai Moscow a St. Petersburg)." ʻOiai aia kekahi poʻe ma Vladivostok i ʻike ʻole [e pili ana iā Sapsan].
E pili ana i ka manaʻo i ke kumuhana
— Ua noʻonoʻo wau ua manaʻo ʻia nā moʻolelo o kāu puke he mea aloha. Me he mea lā ua maopopo ma waena o nā laina: he mea leʻaleʻa ke lilo i mea hacker! ʻAʻole anei ʻoe i manaʻo ma hope o ka puka ʻana o ka puke, ua manaʻo ʻoe i kekahi kuleana?
- ʻAʻole, manaʻo wau ʻaʻole pēlā. E like me kaʻu i ʻōlelo ai, ʻaʻohe manaʻo hou o kaʻu ma aneʻi, ke haʻi aku nei au iā ʻoe i ka mea e hana nei. Akā ʻo ka hana o ka hōʻike nani ʻana, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻole ma laila. ʻO ia ke kumu no ka hoihoi ʻana i ka puke, pono e hoihoi nā kiʻi.
— Ua loli paha kāu mau hana ma ka pūnaewele mai ka wā i kākau ai i kēia? ʻOi aku paha ka paranoia?
— He mau loa ko'u paranoia. ʻAʻole i loli ma muli o kēia kumuhana. Ua hoʻohui iki paha ia no ka mea ua hoʻāʻo wau e kamaʻilio me nā keʻena aupuni a ua hoʻomaopopo lākou iaʻu ʻaʻole pono wau e hana i kēia.
— Ma ka puke āu i kākau ai: “Ua noʻonoʻo wau e pili ana i ka hana ʻana ma ka FSB. ʻO ka mea pōmaikaʻi, ʻaʻole i lōʻihi kēia mau manaʻo: ʻaʻole i liʻuliʻu ua hoihoi nui au i nā kikokikona, nā moʻolelo, a me ka nūpepa. No ke aha he "pōmaikaʻi"?
— ʻAʻole makemake nui wau e hana i nā lawelawe kūikawā, no ka mea, ua maopopo ia [ma kēia hihia] pau ʻoe i ka ʻōnaehana. Akā ʻo ke ʻano o ka "laki" ʻo ka hōʻiliʻili ʻana i nā moʻolelo a me ka hana nūpepa ʻo ia kaʻu mea e pono ai ke hana. ʻO kēia ka mea nui i koʻu ola. I kēia manawa a ma hope. Maikaʻi ua loaʻa iaʻu kēia. ʻAʻole wau e hauʻoli loa i ka palekana ʻike. ʻOiai ua pili loa koʻu ola a pau: he polokalamu polokalamu koʻu makuakāne, a hana koʻu kaikunāne i nā mea like [IT].
— Ke hoʻomanaʻo nei ʻoe i kou ʻike mua ʻana iā ʻoe iho ma ka Pūnaewele?
- ʻO ke kakahiaka nui loa - nā makahiki 90 - loaʻa iā mākou kahi modem i hana i nā kani weliweli. ʻAʻole wau e hoʻomanaʻo i ka mea a mākou i nānā ai me koʻu mau mākua i kēlā manawa, akā hoʻomanaʻo wau i koʻu wā i hoʻomaka ai e hana ma ka Pūnaewele. ʻO 2002-2003 paha ia. Ua hoʻohana au i koʻu manawa a pau ma nā ʻaha kūkā a me nā ʻaha kūkā e pili ana iā Nick Perumov. Ua pili nā makahiki he nui o koʻu ola me nā hoʻokūkū a me ke aʻo ʻana i ka hana a nā ʻano mea kākau moʻolelo noʻonoʻo.
— He aha kāu e hana ai inā hoʻomaka kāu puke e pira?
- Ma Flibust? Nānā wau i kēlā me kēia lā, akā ʻaʻole ma laila. Ua kākau mai kekahi o nā meʻe iaʻu e hoʻoiho wale ʻo ia mai laila. ʻAʻole au e kūʻē iā ia, no ka mea ʻaʻole hiki ke pale ʻia.
Hiki iaʻu ke haʻi aku iā ʻoe i nā hihia e hiki ai iaʻu iho ke pōā. ʻO kēia nā hihia kahi hiki ʻole ke hoʻohana i [nā lawelawe] ma ke kānāwai. I Rusia, i ka wā e puka mai ai kekahi mea ma HBO, hiki ʻole ke nānā iā ia i ka lā hoʻokahi. Pono ʻoe e hoʻoiho mai nā lawelawe ʻē aʻe ma kahi. Hōʻike ʻia kekahi o lākou e HBO, akā i ka maikaʻi ʻole a me ka ʻole o nā subtitles. ʻAʻole hiki ke hoʻoiho i kahi puke ma nā wahi āpau koe wale no nā palapala VKontakte.
Ma keʻano laulā, me he mea lā iaʻu i kēia manawa ua kokoke nā mea a pau i aʻo hou. ʻAʻole paha e hoʻolohe kekahi i nā mele mai ka pūnaewele zaycev.net. Ke lilo ia i mea maʻalahi, ʻoi aku ka maʻalahi o ka uku no ke kau inoa ʻana a hoʻohana i kēlā ala.
Source: www.habr.com