{"id":34244,"date":"2019-10-31T21:57:10","date_gmt":"2019-10-31T18:57:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/o-lokalizatsii-produktov-chast-pervaya-s-chego-nachat\/"},"modified":"2019-10-31T21:57:10","modified_gmt":"2019-10-31T18:57:10","slug":"o-lokalizatsii-produktov-chast-pervaya-s-chego-nachat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/hr\/blog\/news\/o-lokalizatsii-produktov-chast-pervaya-s-chego-nachat","title":{"rendered":"O lokalizaciji proizvoda. Prvi dio: odakle po\u010deti?","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Stvorili ste vlastiti program ili igru i sada \u017eelite prodavati \u0161irom svijeta. Vjerojatno \u0107ete morati lokalizirati grafi\u010dko su\u010delje i \u2013 po\u017eeljno \u2013 dokumentaciju.<\/p>\n<p>Od \u010dega po\u010deti? Kako odabrati nekoga tko \u0107e provesti prijevod? Kako \u0107e se formirati cijena? O tome \u0107e govoriti \u010dlanak na\u0161eg tehni\u010dkog pisca Andreja Starovoitova.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"O lokalizaciji proizvoda. Prvi dio: odakle po\u010deti?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/d157068205f880d0e27754ac2a8030f4.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/> <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"habracut\"><\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<h3>Korak 1 \u2013 odredite na koje jezike \u0107ete prevoditi<\/h3>\n<p>\nPrvo, potrebno je odrediti na koje konkretno tr\u017ei\u0161te \u017eelite u\u0107i. To \u0107e odrediti set jezika na koje \u0107e biti potrebno lokalizirati va\u0161 proizvod. Ako je te\u0161ko odmah odlu\u010diti, mo\u017eete po\u010deti s engleskim \u2013 taj jezik se u\u010di \u0161irom svijeta kao univerzalno sredstvo komunikacije. Da biste pro\u0161irili prisutnost u Europi, tako\u0111er mo\u017eete razmotriti glavne jezike Starog kontinenta \u2013 njema\u010dki, francuski, \u0161panjolski, talijanski.<\/p>\n<p>Ako planirate u\u0107i u Aziju, prvo \u0107e vam biti potreban japanski (mnogi japanski kupci zahtijevaju da proizvodi budu prevedeni na japanski), kao i kineski i korejski.<\/p>\n<h3>Korak 2 \u2013 odredite tko \u0107e prevoditi<\/h3>\n<p>\nNakon \u0161to ste odredili koje jezike vam je potrebno prevesti dokumentaciju, postavlja se sljede\u0107e va\u017eno pitanje \u2013 tko \u0107e to u\u010diniti?<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"O lokalizaciji proizvoda. Prvi dio: odakle po\u010deti?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/db78673174887242b0bd73f0aac406a7.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nPostoje 3 opcije \u2013 stalni prevoditelji, freelanceri, prevoditeljska agencija. Razmotrimo prednosti i nedostatke svake od njih:<\/p>\n<p><b>1) Stalni prevoditelji:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><i>Prednosti: <\/i><\/p>\n<p>++ takvi prevoditelji obi\u010dno dobro poznaju proizvod; bolje razumiju kako jasnije formulirati re\u010denicu, gdje treba prevoditi kra\u0107e, a gdje se mogu ostaviti detalji kako bi tekst bio jasniji korisniku;<\/p>\n<p>++ bit \u0107ete sigurni da tekstove dosljedno prevodi ista osoba; mo\u0107i \u0107ete u\u010dinkovitije upravljati procesom \u2013 ispraviti prevoditelja ako vam se u\u010dini da ne\u0161to ne ide kako treba. Drugim rije\u010dima, takvi \u0107e prijevodi biti najkvalitetniji.<\/p>\n<p><i>Mane:<\/i><\/p>\n<p> \u2014 stalne prevoditelje treba zaposliti, a to je stalna pla\u0107a, socijalni paket + radno mjesto \u2013 u cjelini, to \u0107e biti vrlo skupo.<\/p>\n<p>Zaklju\u010dak: ako imate veliku tvrtku i stalno imate tekstove za prijevod, trebate zaposliti stalnog prevoditelja. A ako ne, vrijedi razmotriti druge opcije.<\/p>\n<p><b>2) Freelance. <\/b><\/p>\n<p>Ako trebate prevesti malo teksta (na primjer, lokalizirati malu igru za pametni telefon) i prona\u0161li ste dobrog stru\u010dnjaka, ova opcija mo\u017ee vam najbolje odgovarati.<\/p>\n<p><i>Prednosti:<\/i><br \/>\n++ bit \u0107e relativno jeftino. Koliko su zatra\u017eili za prijevod \u2013 toliko ste i platili.<\/p>\n<p><i>Mane: <\/i><br \/>\nU slu\u010daju prevoditelja freelancera uvijek treba imati na umu sljede\u0107e to\u010dke:<\/p>\n<p>a) Ako do\u0111e do vrhunca optere\u0107enja prije objave i bit \u0107e potrebno brzo prevesti mnogo teksta \u2013 ho\u0107e li to biti u mogu\u0107nosti freelancer?<\/p>\n<p>b) Ako vam se svi\u0111a stru\u010dnjak i povremeno \u0107ete ga anga\u017eirati, u nekom trenutku, osje\u0107aju\u0107i svoju potra\u017enju, mo\u017ee zna\u010dajno pove\u0107ati cijene svojih usluga.<\/p>\n<p>c) Prilikom rada s freelancerom potrebno je pa\u017eljivo sastaviti i raspraviti ugovor \u2013 cijene za prijevod; rokovi prijevoda; ho\u0107e li ovaj stru\u010dnjak besplatno ispraviti tekst ako vam ne\u0161to ne bude odgovaralo u prijevodu, ho\u0107e li se koristiti neka automatizirana prevodila\u010dka sustav, a ako da, koji; ho\u0107e li vam dati prijevodnu memoriju ako odlu\u010dite promijeniti stru\u010dnjaka.<\/p>\n<p>d) budu\u0107i da freelancer nije osobito upoznat s va\u0161im proizvodom, morat \u0107ete davati detaljne komentare (posebno za tekstove iz su\u010delja) \u2013 gdje se koja fraza koristi, \u0161to prevoditi infinitivom, a \u0161to imperativom, gdje treba biti kra\u0107e, a gdje du\u017ee, \u0161to ozna\u010dava taj ili onaj pojam itd. Sve to treba obaviti kako bi na kraju prijevod bio kvalitetan.<\/p>\n<p>Zaklju\u010dak: ako trebate prevesti malo i \u017eelite u\u0161tedjeti, mo\u017eda ima smisla obratiti se freelanceru \u2013 prilagodite se situaciji.<\/p>\n<p><b>3) Prevoditeljska tvrtka. <\/b><br \/>\nAko imate dovoljno velike obujme za prijevod, ali s fluktuiraju\u0107im vrhunskim optere\u0107enjem (ponekad mnogo, ponekad srednje, ponekad malo), mo\u017eda vrijedi sklopiti ugovor s prevoditeljskom tvrtkom (odmah napominjem da smo mi u Parallels odabrali upravo ovaj put.)<\/p>\n<p><i>Prednosti:<\/i><\/p>\n<p>++ Takve tvrtke obi\u010dno imaju vlastiti tim prevoditelja.<\/p>\n<p>++ Potpisujete ugovor o povjerljivosti (NDA \u2013 non-disclosure agreement), u kojem jasno definirate sve aspekte: prava, obveze, cijene, rokove.<\/p>\n<p>++ Naj\u010de\u0161\u0107e se cijena u ugovoru \u043f\u0440\u043e\u043f\u0438\u0441uje za potpuni kompleks usluga. To jest, dodjeljuju vam osobnog menad\u017eera koji \u0107e se baviti isklju\u010divo va\u0161om tvrtkom. Trebate ne\u0161to prevesti \u2013 po\u0161aljete njemu. On \u0107e, pak, pripremiti datoteke za prevoditelje (o tome \u0107u kasnije detaljnije govoriti), odlu\u010diti tko \u0107e od prevoditelja obraditi va\u0161u narud\u017ebu, rasporediti optere\u0107enje, prikupiti pitanja od prevoditelja i prenijeti im va\u0161e odgovore, poslati vam prevedene datoteke. Ukratko, vi ste poslali ne\u0161to na prijevod, a dalje \u0107e sve rje\u0161avati prevoditeljska tvrtka.<\/p>\n<p><i>Mane:<\/i><\/p>\n<p> \u2014 Prijevodi putem takve tvrtke bit \u0107e skuplji nego putem freelancera (iako je i dalje jeftinije nego putem stalnog prevoditelja).<\/p>\n<p> \u2014 Kao i u slu\u010daju freelancera, prevoditelji tvrtke ne poznaju va\u0161 proizvod i vide fraze\/tekst odvojeno od op\u0107eg konteksta. Stoga, kako biste dobili kvalitetan prijevod, morat \u0107ete napraviti detaljne komentare uz ekran slike, pru\u017eiti daljinski pristup, napraviti vizualni video o proizvodu itd.<\/p>\n<h3>Korak 3 \u2013 odaberite tko \u0107e konkretno prevoditi<\/h3>\n<p>\nS obzirom da sura\u0111ujemo s prevoditeljskom tvrtkom, posebnu pozornost posve\u0107ujemo ovom pitanju, ali ne\u0161to od navedenog mo\u017ee se koristiti i u slu\u010daju odabira freelancera ili stalnog prevoditelja.<\/p>\n<p>Naravno, dobro je ako vam netko mo\u017ee osobno preporu\u010diti nekoga. Ako ne, mo\u017eete prona\u0107i razne prevoditeljske tvrtke putem Googlea, sastaviti kratki popis, a zatim odabrati. <\/p>\n<p>Prilikom odabira obratite pa\u017enju na sljede\u0107e stvari:<\/p>\n<p>1) <b>Kvaliteta prijevoda<\/b> <\/p>\n<p>Obavezno zamolite da prevedu ne\u0161to iz va\u0161e tematike kao testni zadatak.<br \/>\nNaravno, dobro bi bilo da imate stru\u010dnjaka koji bi mogao procijeniti kvalitetu prijevoda.<br \/>\nU na\u010delu, mo\u017eete sami procijeniti kvalitetu prijevoda na ruski (ako radite proizvod na engleskom). Ili kvalitetu prijevoda na engleski - sigurno netko od va\u0161ih prijatelja\/poznanika\/ro\u0111aka dobro zna engleski.<\/p>\n<p>U slu\u010daju drugih jezika (posebno azijskih) mo\u017eda \u0107e biti potrebno obratiti se nekoj vanjskoj osobi. Mo\u017eete ga potra\u017eiti preko poznanika ili dru\u0161tvenih mre\u017ea. Tako\u0111er, mo\u017eete poku\u0161ati kontaktirati i drugu prevoditeljsku tvrtku, ali ovdje postoji jedan nijans - mogu vam re\u0107i da je sve lo\u0161e kako bi ponudili svoje usluge.<\/p>\n<p>2) <b>Format datoteka za prijevod<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Unaprijed odredite u kojem formatu \u0107e vam biti ugodno slati i primati datoteke za prijevod (xml, xliff, po, itd.) i provjerite podr\u017eava li taj format prevoditeljska tvrtka.<\/p>\n<p>3) <b>Rokovi prijevoda <\/b><\/p>\n<p>Provjerite koliko prosje\u010dno traje prijevod. Naravno, sve ovisi o obujmu i slo\u017eenosti teksta, ali u svakom slu\u010daju treba dogovoriti vremenske okvire, na primjer 2-4 dana.<br \/>\nTako\u0111er, obavezno provjerite mo\u017ee li se proces ubrzati u slu\u010daju nepredvi\u0111enih okolnosti, kako ne bi bilo situacija u kojima vam je potrebno brzo prevesti ne\u0161to za hitnu nadogradnju, a njima ka\u017eu da, prema ugovoru, sve mo\u017ee potrajati do 5 dana.<\/p>\n<p>4) <b>Minimalna koli\u010dina rije\u010di za prijevod<\/b> <\/p>\n<p>Provjerite koja bi trebala biti minimalna koli\u010dina rije\u010di za prijevod, pri kojoj \u0107e se cijena za lokalizaciju formirati \"po rije\u010di\", a ne prema \"lingvisti\u010dkom satu\". Vi\u0161e o cijeni \"po rije\u010di\" i \"po satu\" re\u0107i \u0107emo ne\u0161to kasnije.<\/p>\n<p>5) <b>Cijena <\/b><\/p>\n<p>To je prili\u010dno slo\u017eeno pitanje. Kada tra\u017eite da vam navedu cijene za usluge, sigurno \u0107e vam poslati cijene za nove rije\u010di, kao i za rije\u010di koje spadaju u razne kategorije \u2013 context match, repetitions, low fuzzy, high fuzzy\u2026<\/p>\n<p>O svim tim kategorijama, \u0161to one zna\u010de, odakle dolaze, kako se odre\u0111uje cijena, govorimo detaljnije u drugom dijelu ovog \u010dlanka. <\/p>\n<p>Za sada poku\u0161ajte procijeniti ukupnu razinu cijene prema svojim financijskim mogu\u0107nostima i razini udobnosti rada s prevoditeljima.<\/p>\n<p>Ponekad niska cijena mo\u017ee ukazivati na to da tvrtka namjerno smanjuje cijene, nemaju\u0107i u svom timu kvalitetne stru\u010dnjake, te sukladno tome nudi lo\u0161e prijevode. No mo\u017ee biti i druga\u010dije \u2013 tvrtka radi savjesno i niskom cijenom jednostavno poku\u0161ava u\u010dvrstiti svoju poziciju na tr\u017ei\u0161tu prijevodnih usluga. Ponekad se dogodi da cijene prijevoda variraju ovisno o kategorijama rije\u010di. Na primjer, jedna \u0107e tvrtka ponuditi cijenu od $0.23 po rije\u010di, dok druga nudi $0.21. Naizgled, druga opcija je jeftinija, no njezine cijene za high fuzzy matches su skuplje od prve, te \u0107e na kraju ukupni tro\u0161ak biti isti, ako ne i ve\u0107i (detaljna analiza razli\u010ditih kategorija \u2014 context match, repetitions, low fuzzy, high fuzzy \u2013 bit \u0107e obra\u0111ena u drugom dijelu \u010dlanka.)<\/p>\n<p><b>6) Saznajte kako tvrtka izra\u010dunava cijenu prijevoda <\/b><br \/>\nZatra\u017eite od tvrtke da procijeni koliko bi ko\u0161tala prijevod va\u0161eg teksta i pa\u017eljivo pogledajte kako \u0107e biti sastavljen izra\u010dun \u2013 detaljizacija cjenika.<\/p>\n<p>Ako vam po\u0161alju jednostavan, o\u010digledno napravljen na brzinu, Excel tablicu od 2 retka: 'rije\u010di toliko i cijena takva' \u2013 to je povod za sumnju u ozbiljnost takve tvrtke. Naime, prevoditelji u glavnom koriste razli\u010dite CAT alate \u2013 automatizirane sustave koji poma\u017eu u prevo\u0111enju. To ne zna\u010di da koriste strojno prevo\u0111enje. Takvi sustavi omogu\u0107uju analizu va\u0161ih datoteka, utvr\u0111ivanje koliko novih dijelova teksta treba prevesti, a \u0161to se mo\u017ee posuditi iz prethodnih prijevoda (translation memory), kako najbolje prevesti odre\u0111eni termin i sli\u010dno. Nakon takve analize, sustavi razdvajaju tekst u kategorije i, ovisno o broju rije\u010di u svakoj kategoriji, automatski izra\u010dunavaju kona\u010dnu cijenu za prijevod. Ovaj pristup zna\u010dajno smanjuje rizik od ljudske pogre\u0161ke.<\/p>\n<p><b>Ispod se nalazi primjer takve procjene:<\/b><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"O lokalizaciji proizvoda. Prvi dio: odakle po\u010deti?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/4c0e348998dd6fe29597811c14911edc.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"O lokalizaciji proizvoda. Prvi dio: odakle po\u010deti?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/f41b5466d8fa45c58f0ce45709b0b5a7.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"O lokalizaciji proizvoda. Prvi dio: odakle po\u010deti?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/d486ebfccd5199c8c13caedf533893bd.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"O lokalizaciji proizvoda. 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