{"id":39080,"date":"2019-10-31T22:27:44","date_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:27:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/otus-nashi-lyubimye-oshibki\/"},"modified":"2019-10-31T22:27:44","modified_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:27:44","slug":"otus-nashi-lyubimye-oshibki","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/hr\/blog\/administrirovanie\/otus-nashi-lyubimye-oshibki","title":{"rendered":"OTUS. Na\u0161e omiljene gre\u0161ke","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Prije dva i pol godina pokrenuli smo projekt Otus.ru i napisao sam <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/ru\/company\/otus\/blog\/324658\/\">ovaj \u010dlanak<\/a><\/noindex>. Re\u0107i da sam pogrije\u0161io - to ne bi bilo dovoljno. Danas bih \u017eelio napraviti privremeni pregled i malo pri\u010dati o projektu, o onome \u0161to smo do sada postigli, a \u0161to imamo \u00abispod haube\u00bb. Zapravo \u0107u po\u010deti s gre\u0161kama iz tog \u010dlanka.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"OTUS. Na\u0161e omiljene gre\u0161ke\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/3ec64211351e86e161acc6376447fa71.jpg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"habracut\"><\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<h2>Obrazovanje - zna\u010di li to zapo\u0161ljavanje?<\/h2>\n<p>\nApsolutno ne. To vrijedi za ljude koji \u017eele promijeniti profesiju; njihovo obrazovanje je usmjereno na zapo\u0161ljavanje. A za one koji ve\u0107 rade u struci, obrazovanje je na\u010din da postanu bolji. Koliko god to \u010dudno zvu\u010dalo, dolaze kod nas u\u010diti kako bi postali najbolji stru\u010dnjaci. Prije \u0161est mjeseci proveli smo anketu me\u0111u na\u0161im studentima, kojih je tada bilo ne\u0161to manje od 2500. Postavili smo jednostavno pitanje: za\u0161to u\u010dite kod nas? I samo 17% odgovorilo je da im je cilj promjena posla. Velika ve\u0107ina kolega u\u010di za vlastiti razvoj, za unapre\u0111enje svojih vje\u0161tina, zanimaju ih novosti u njihovoj profesiji. Ovo mi\u0161ljenje neizravno potvr\u0111uju statistike o zapo\u0161ljavanju: organizirali smo tisu\u0107e intervjua, a samo 350 na\u0161ih studenata odlu\u010dilo je promijeniti posao u svih tih dva i pol godine postojanja projekta.<\/p>\n<p>Drugi aspekt u kojem smo grije\u0161ili je to \u0161to smatramo da mo\u017eemo op\u0107enito zapo\u0161ljavati. A to nije to\u010dno. Niti jedan edukacijski centar nije subjekt procesa zapo\u0161ljavanja. On ne mo\u017ee utjecati na to i na tisu\u0107e okolnosti koje vode do promjene posla. Promijenili smo svoju strategiju i sada jednostavno preporu\u010dujemo svoje studente tvrtkama, a tvrtke - svojim studentima. Na neki na\u010din postali smo medij u podru\u010dju zapo\u0161ljavanja u IT-u, ali bez nametanja. Trenutno imamo 68 000 klijenata (kako onih koji se educiraju, tako i onih koji su zavr\u0161ili \u0161kolu ili jo\u0161 nisu zapo\u010deli). To je otprilike 12% cijelog ruskog IT tr\u017ei\u0161ta. Uz to, imamo vi\u0161e od 300 tvrtki koje s nama sura\u0111uju i objavljuju svoje oglase kod nas. No, \u010dak ni uz taj obujam te\u0161ko mo\u017eemo re\u0107i da se bavimo zapo\u0161ljavanjem. Samo poma\u017eemo ljudima i tvrtkama da se sretnu, a to radimo besplatno.<\/p>\n<h2>Jedan te\u010daj - jedan nastavnik?<\/h2>\n<p>\nKada smo po\u010deli, imali smo fantaziju da je za izradu dobrog te\u010daja dovoljno prona\u0107i dobrog prakti\u010dara s velikim iskustvom u proizvodnji i uvjeriti ga da napravi te\u010daj. I tada bi sam te\u010daj bio prijenos njegovog iskustva. \u010cak sam imao metaforu o tome: \"on tijekom dana razvija aplikaciju, a nave\u010der vam o tome pri\u010da\". Bio sam jako daleko od stvarnosti. Ispostavilo se da te\u010daj predstavljaju slo\u017een organizam koji ima razli\u010ditu strukturu ovisno o predmetnom podru\u010dju. Tako\u0111er se pokazalo da, osim webinara (\u010ditaj \u2013 predavanja), moraju postojati i prakti\u010dne vje\u017ebe (tj. \u2013 seminari) i doma\u0107i zadaci, kao i metodolo\u0161ki materijali i sve to. Oznanilo se da istovremeno na te\u010daju mora raditi tim predava\u010da, da postoje dobri predava\u010di, a postoje i oni koji vode seminare, kao i asistenti koji provjeravaju doma\u0107e zadatke. Na kraju, shvatili smo da ih treba pou\u010davati, i to na razli\u010dite na\u010dine. Na kraju se ispostavilo da je te\u017ee prona\u0107i te ljude i prodati im pou\u010davanje nego ih samo potra\u017eiti i pozvati u tim.<\/p>\n<p>Kao rezultat, osnovali smo svoju \u0161kolu. Da, otvorili smo \u0161kolu predava\u010da i u\u010dimo, u\u010dimo znatno vi\u0161e nego \u0161to ostaje kod nas. Zanimanje predava\u010da je slo\u017eeno, zahtijeva puno energije, i samo svaki \u010detvrti zavr\u0161i na\u0161e obrazovanje i \"iza\u0111e\" pred publiku. Nismo prona\u0161li bolji na\u010din za odabir predava\u010da osim uvo\u0111enja u proces u\u010denja. Tijekom mjesec ili dva \u0161kolovanja budu\u0107i predava\u010di moraju ne samo kreirati vlastiti te\u010daj, nego i predavati svojim kolegama na prakti\u010dnim vje\u017ebama. Tijekom postojanja projekta nau\u010dili smo podu\u010diti 650 ljudi, od kojih 155 podu\u010dava na\u0161e studente. <\/p>\n<h2>Ho\u0107e li biti puno te\u010dajeva?<\/h2>\n<p>\nKoliko tema u IT-u postoji za obuku? Pa, Java, C++, Python, JS. \u0160to jo\u0161? Linux, PostgreSQL, visoka optere\u0107enja. Tako\u0111er DevOps, a posebno mo\u017eemo razdvojiti automatizirano testiranje. I to je otprilike to. Planirali smo broj kurseva koji bi imao izme\u0111u 20-40 ljudi po grupi. \u017divot je unio svoje korekcije. Do sada smo napravili 65 kurseva, ili kako ih mi zovemo, proizvoda. Planiramo se udvostru\u010diti u naredni godinu i pol. Svakog mjeseca pokre\u0107emo 4-6 novih, istra\u017euju\u0107i potra\u017enju za tehnologijama, programskim jezicima i alatima. Smije\u0161no je, ali jo\u0161 uvijek nismo uspjeli shvatiti za\u0161to neki kursevi postaju popularni, a neki ne. I\u0161li smo otprilike istim putem kao i sa \u0161kolom u\u010ditelja: stvaramo funnel i testiramo potra\u017enju \"u praksi\". Uz to, dobro smo napredovali u procjenama skupljanja grupa: na\u0161a najve\u0107a grupa do sada imala je 76 \u010dlanova, ali \u010desto okupljamo 50 i vi\u0161e studenata. Naravno, ne dolaze svi na sve nastave, ali pru\u017eamo mogu\u0107nost da ih gledaju u snimci.<\/p>\n<p>Nedavno smo \"probili\" granicu od 1 000 ljudi. To zna\u010di da istovremeno obu\u010davamo vi\u0161e od 1 000 studenata, odr\u017eavaju\u0107i do 25 nastava dnevno. Cijela ta aktivnost se odvija na na\u0161oj platformi, koju sami razvijamo od osnivanja projekta. Trenutno na njoj radi tim od pet ljudi, koji je otvoreno prezaposlen zahtjevima za novim funkcionalnostima. Tradicionalno puno pa\u017enje posve\u0107ujemo kvaliteti obuke, redovito prikupljamo povratne informacije od studenata. U posljednjih godinu dana drasti\u010dno smo pobolj\u0161ali svoje ocjene, a sada prosje\u010dna ocjena po nastavi iznosi 4,48 na petoj ljestvici (u usporedbi s 3,99 prije godinu dana).<\/p>\n<p>\u0160to sam onda pogrije\u0161io? Vjerojatno u osnovnoj ideji projekta. I dalje pozivamo na obuku one koji ve\u0107 imaju iskustvo u profesiji. I dalje provodimo po\u010detno testiranje kako bi se oni koji ne\u0107e mo\u0107i pratiti obuku prvo pripremili za te\u010daj. I dalje pozivamo na predavanje samo prakti\u010dare koji ne govore besplatno, ve\u0107 iznose konkretne i korisne informacije. I dalje se fokusiramo na praksu, projekte, proizvode i na sve na\u010dine razvijamo zajednicu oko nas. Prije dvije i pol godine nisam mogao vjerovati da \u0107e nam netko kupovati te\u010daj za te\u010dajem, a sada je to \u010dinjenica: 482 osobe (tj. oko 13% svih studenata) kupile su vi\u0161e od jednog te\u010daja, a rekorder je osoba koja ih je poha\u0111ala \u010dak 11. I dalje ne jam\u010dimo zaposlenje, ne obe\u0107avamo \"stru\u010dnost za dva tjedna\", ne mami se mitolo\u0161kim pla\u0107ama. I jako nam je drago \u0161to ovdje, na Habr\u00e9u, ve\u0107 imamo vi\u0161e od 12 000 ljudi. 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