{"id":53682,"date":"2019-12-07T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-12-06T21:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/blog_prohoster\/nachalos-obshhee-golosovanie-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian"},"modified":"2020-02-18T14:01:36","modified_gmt":"2020-02-18T11:01:36","slug":"nachalos-obshhee-golosovanie-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/hr\/blog\/news\/nachalos-obshhee-golosovanie-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian","title":{"rendered":"Po\u010delo je op\u0107e glasovanje o sustavima inicijalizacije u Debiana","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"

Projekt Debian najavio<\/a><\/noindex> o po\u010detku op\u0107eg glasovanja<\/a><\/noindex> (GR, op\u0107a rezolucija) programera projekta o pitanju podr\u0161ke za vi\u0161e inicializacijskih sistema<\/a><\/noindex>, koja \u0107e odrediti daljnju politiku projekta u vezi s vezivanjem uz systemd, podr\u0161kom alternativnim inicializacijskim sistemima i interakcijom s derivatima distribucija koje ne koriste systemd. Glasovanje \u0107e trajati do 27. prosinca uklju\u010divo, a rezultati \u0107e biti objavljeni 28. prosinca.<\/p>\n

Podsjetimo, da je 2014. godine tehni\u010dki odbor odobrio<\/a><\/noindex> prelazak<\/a><\/noindex> zadanu distribuciju na systemd, ali nije izradio<\/a><\/noindex> rije\u0161enje u vezi s podr\u0161kom za vi\u0161e inicializacijskih sistema (na glasovanju je pobijedio stav koji ukazuje na nespremnost odbora da donese odluku o ovom pitanju). Voditelj odbora preporu\u010dio je odr\u017eavaocima paketa da sa\u010duvaju podr\u0161ku za sysvinit kao alternativni sistem inicializacije, ali je naglasio da ne mo\u017ee nametati svoje stavove i da se u svakom slu\u010daju odluka mora donositi samostalno. <\/p>\n

Nakon toga, neki programeri su poduzeli poku\u0161aj provo\u0111enja<\/a><\/noindex> op\u0107eg glasovanja, ali je prethodno glasovanje pokazalo da nema potrebe za dono\u0161enjem odluke o pitanju kori\u0161tenja vi\u0161e inicializacijskih sistema. Prije nekoliko mjeseci, nakon problema<\/a><\/noindex> s uklju\u010divanjem paketa elogind (neophodan za rad GNOME bez systemd) u testing granu zbog sukoba s libsystemd, pitanje je ponovno pokrenuo vo\u0111a projekta Debian, jer se programeri nisu mogli dogovoriti, a njihova komunikacija je prerasla u sukob i zapela je u slijepoj ulici. <\/p>\n

Trenutno provodeno glasovanje \u0107e omogu\u0107iti odobravanje politike u vezi s vi\u0161e inicializacijskih sistema, i ako pobijedi stav koji obavezuje na podr\u0161ku alternativnim sistemima, odr\u017eavaoci ne\u0107e mo\u0107i ignorirati ili odga\u0111ati takva pitanja. Nakon rasprave o tri prvotno predlo\u017eena stavka glasovanja od strane vo\u0111e projekta, broj opcija je pro\u0161iren na osam. Tokom glasovanja dopu\u0161teno je odabrati odmah nekoliko stavki s rangiranjem odabranih elemenata po razini preferencije. Pravo glasa ima oko tisu\u0107u programera koji sudjeluju u odr\u017eavanju paketa i infrastrukture.<\/p>\n

Predlo\u017eene opcije:<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

  • Glavna pa\u017enja je fokusirana na systemd. Pru\u017eanje podr\u0161ke alternativnim sistemima inicijalizacije nije prioritet, ali odr\u017eavaoci mogu opcionalno uklju\u010diti init skripte za takve sisteme u pakete.\n
  • Podr\u0161ka raznovrsnim sistemima inicijalizacije i mogu\u0107nost pokretanja Debiana sa sistemima inicijalizacije koji se razlikuju od systemd.
    \nZa pokretanje servisa, paketi moraju obavezno uklju\u010divati init skripte; isporuka samo unit fajlova systemd bez sysv init skripti nije prihvatljiva.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n
  • Preferred remains systemd, but the possibility of maintaining alternative systems of initialization is left open. Technologies like elogind, which allow applications bound to systemd to run in alternative environments, are considered important. Init files for alternative systems may be included in packages.\n
  • Podr\u0161ka za sisteme koji ne koriste systemd, ali bez promjena koje ometaju razvoj. Razvija\u010di su saglasni da \u0107e podr\u017eavati vi\u0161e sistema inicijalizacije u bliskoj budu\u0107nosti, ali tako\u0111e smatraju neophodnim raditi na pobolj\u0161anju podr\u0161ke za systemd. Razvoj i odr\u017eavanje specifi\u010dnih re\u0161enja treba da obavljaju zajednice zainteresovane za takva re\u0161enja, ali drugi odr\u017eavaoci trebaju aktivno pomo\u0107i i doprineti re\u0161avanju problema kada to postane neophodno. U idealnom slu\u010daju, paketi bi trebali funkcionisati uz bilo koji sistem inicijalizacije, za \u0161to se mogu isporu\u010divati tradicionalne init skripte ili koristiti drugi mehanizmi koji omogu\u0107avaju rad bez systemd. Nemogu\u0107nost rada bez systemd smatra se gre\u0161kom, ali ne kao gre\u0161ka koja blokira izdavanje, osim u slu\u010dajevima kada postoji spremno re\u0161enje za rad bez systemd, ali se odbija zadr\u017eavanje (na primer, kada je problem izazvan uklanjanjem ranije isporu\u010dene init skripte).\n
  • Podr\u0161ka prenosivosti, bez izmjena koje bi ometale razvoj. Debian se i dalje smatra poveznicom za integraciju razli\u010ditih softverskih rje\u0161enja koja pru\u017eaju ekvivalentnu ili sli\u010dnu funkcionalnost. Prenosivost izme\u0111u hardverskih platformi i softverskih stogova je jedan od va\u017enih zadataka, a integracija alternativnih tehnologija je dobrodo\u0161la, \u010dak i kada se svjetonazori njihovih stvaratelja ne sla\u017eu s op\u0107im mi\u0161ljenjem. Stav prema systemd-u i drugim sustavima inicijalizacije potpuno se poklapa s to\u010dkom 4.\n
  • Prevo\u0111enje podr\u0161ke za vi\u0161e sustava inicijalizacije u obaveznu kategoriju. Omogu\u0107avanje pokretanja Debiana sa sustavima inicijalizacije koji se razlikuju od systemd-a i dalje ima zna\u010daj za projekt. Svaki paket treba raditi s obradnicima pid1, osim kada je softver unutar paketa prvotno zami\u0161ljen za rad samo s systemd-om i nema podr\u0161ku za pokretanje bez systemd-a (nedostatak init skripti se ne smatra namjenom isklju\u010divo za rad sa systemd-om).\n
  • Podr\u0161ka prenosivosti i vi\u0161estrukim realizacijama. Op\u0107a na\u010dela potpuno se poklapaju s to\u010dkom 5, ali se ne postavljaju posebni zahtjevi za systemd i sustave inicijalizacije, niti se name\u0107u ikakve obveze programerima. Programerima se preporu\u010duje da uzmu u obzir interese jedni drugih, postignu kompromis i prona\u0111u zajedni\u010dka rje\u0161enja koja su zadovoljavaju\u0107a za razli\u010dite strane.\n
  • Nastavak rasprave. To\u010dka se mo\u017ee koristiti za smanjenje ocjena neprihvatljivih opcija.\n

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    Izvor: opennet.ru<\/a><\/p>","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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