{"id":139705,"date":"2025-07-23T11:11:58","date_gmt":"2025-07-23T09:11:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/novosti-interneta\/v-fedora-predlozheno-zadejstvovat-flathub-v-atomarnyh-redakcziyah-distributiva"},"modified":"2025-07-23T11:11:58","modified_gmt":"2025-07-23T09:11:58","slug":"v-fedora-predlozheno-zadejstvovat-flathub-v-atomarnyh-redakcziyah-distributiva","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/hu\/blog\/news\/v-fedora-predlozheno-zadejstvovat-flathub-v-atomarnyh-redakcziyah-distributiva","title":{"rendered":"A Fedora javasolta a FlatHub haszn\u00e1lat\u00e1t a disztrib\u00faci\u00f3 atomikus kiad\u00e1sain\u00e1l.","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Michael Catanzaro, az Epiphany (GNOME Web) web b\u00f6ng\u00e9sz\u0151 egyik fejleszt\u0151je, aki r\u00e9szt vesz a GNOME \u00e9s Fedora projektekben, javasolta a FlatHub katalogus haszn\u00e1lat\u00e1nak fel\u00fclvizsg\u00e1lat\u00e1t a Fedora Linuxban. A Fedora Workstation atomikusan friss\u00edthet\u0151 v\u00e1ltozat\u00e1ban javasolt\u00e1k, hogy alap\u00e9rtelmez\u00e9s szerint a FlatHub katalogust haszn\u00e1lj\u00e1k a felhaszn\u00e1l\u00f3k \u00e1ltal telep\u00edtett flatpak csomagokhoz, m\u00edg a saj\u00e1t flatpak csomagok repert\u00f3rium\u00e1t korl\u00e1tozz\u00e1k a gy\u00e1rilag telep\u00edtett csomagok haszn\u00e1lat\u00e1ra.     <\/p>\n<p>Jelenleg a Fedora alap\u00e9rtelmez\u00e9s szerint a saj\u00e1t flatpak-repozit\u00f3rium\u00e1t aj\u00e1nlja, amelynek tartalm\u00e1t rpm-csomagok \u00fajraford\u00edt\u00e1sa alapj\u00e1n \u00e1ll\u00edtj\u00e1k \u00f6ssze. Alap\u00e9rtelmez\u00e9s szerint a FlatHub-b\u00f3l t\u00f6rt\u00e9n\u0151 csomagok let\u00f6lt\u00e9s\u00e9t csak a telep\u00edt\u00e9s ut\u00e1n lehet enged\u00e9lyezni, ha a GNOME alkalmaz\u00e1skezel\u0151ben aktiv\u00e1ljuk a \u201eHarmadik f\u00e9lt\u0151l sz\u00e1rmaz\u00f3 repozit\u00f3riumok enged\u00e9lyez\u00e9se\u201d opci\u00f3t, de m\u00e9g ebben az esetben is a Fedora repozit\u00f3rium\u00e1nak csomagjai \u00e9lveznek els\u0151bbs\u00e9get.    <\/p>\n<p>Michael v\u00e9lem\u00e9nye szerint a felhaszn\u00e1l\u00f3k t\u00f6bbs\u00e9ge ink\u00e1bb a FlatHub katalogusb\u00f3l szeretn\u00e9 telep\u00edteni a csomagokat, amelyeket a f\u0151 alkalmaz\u00e1sfejleszt\u0151k \u00e1ll\u00edtottak el\u0151, mintsem a Fedora t\u00e1mogat\u00e1sa alatt \u00e1ll\u00f3 verzi\u00f3kat (a vita r\u00e9sztvev\u0151inek 80%-a a FlatHub haszn\u00e1lata mellett voksolt). Azt felt\u00e9telezik, hogy az alkalmaz\u00e1sfejleszt\u0151k jobban ismerik saj\u00e1t projektjeik r\u00e9szleteit, \u00e9s min\u0151s\u00e9gibb, k\u00f6z\u00f6ss\u00e9g \u00e1ltal jobban tesztelt flatpak csomagokat k\u00e9sz\u00edtenek. Ezzel szemben a Fedora rpm csomagjait t\u00e1mogat\u00f3 csapat nem mutat \u00e9rdekl\u0151d\u00e9st a flatpak csomagok fenntart\u00e1sa ir\u00e1nt, \u00e9s nem ford\u00edtanak kell\u0151 figyelmet a hibajelent\u00e9sekre, ami oda vezet, hogy a Fedora flatpak csomagjainak min\u0151s\u00e9ge alacsonyabb, mint a FlatHub f\u0151 projekteit\u0151l sz\u00e1rmaz\u00f3 csomagok\u00e9.      <\/p>\n<p>Sok felhaszn\u00e1l\u00f3 nincs tiszt\u00e1ban azzal, hogy a Fedora alkalmaz\u00e1skezel\u0151j\u00e9n kereszt\u00fcl telep\u00edtett flatpak csomag nem a FlatHub-b\u00f3l, mint m\u00e1s disztrib\u00faci\u00f3kban, hanem a Fedora repert\u00f3riumb\u00f3l \u00e9rkezik, ahol a csomagok elt\u00e9rnek a FlatHub verzi\u00f3it\u00f3l. Emiatt a Fedora repert\u00f3riumb\u00f3l sz\u00e1rmaz\u00f3 csomagokkal kapcsolatos probl\u00e9m\u00e1kat a FlatHub hivatalos csomagok hib\u00e1jaik\u00e9nt \u00e9rz\u00e9kelik, \u00e9s a panaszokat a f\u0151 fejleszt\u0151k fel\u00e9 int\u00e9zik, nem pedig a Fedora t\u00e1mogat\u00e1s\u00e1hoz. P\u00e9ld\u00e1ul az OBS Studio probl\u00e9m\u00e1s flatpak csomagj\u00e1nak sz\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00e1sa a Fed\u00f3r\u00e1ba, amely priorit\u00e1st \u00e9lvezett a FlatHub csomaggal szemben, febru\u00e1rban konfliktust okozott az OBS Studio projekttel.    <\/p>\n<p>A Fedora Workstation j\u00f6v\u0151je atom\u00e1risan friss\u00edthet\u0151 disztrib\u00faci\u00f3k\u00e9nt l\u00e1tszik, ez\u00e9rt a FlatHub-ra val\u00f3 \u00e1t\u00e1ll\u00e1s k\u00e9rd\u00e9s\u00e9t jobban nem \u00e9rdemes elh\u00fazni. A saj\u00e1t Flatpak-repozit\u00f3rium alkalmaz\u00e1sa a megb\u00edzhat\u00f3 k\u00f6rnyezetben t\u00f6rt\u00e9n\u0151 \u00f6ssze\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00e1s sz\u00fcks\u00e9gess\u00e9g\u00e9b\u0151l ad\u00f3dik. A FlatHub-ban tal\u00e1lhat\u00f3 csomagok eset\u00e9ben, m\u00e9g ha csak a hiteles\u00edtett csomagokat is n\u00e9zz\u00fck, amelyek\u00e9rt a f\u0151 projekteket felel\u0151snek tekintj\u00fck, az \u00f6ssze\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00e1st k\u00fcls\u0151 infrastrukt\u00far\u00e1kban v\u00e9gzik, amelyek biztons\u00e1ga k\u00e9ts\u00e9geket \u00e9breszthet.    <\/p>\n<p>A Fedora saj\u00e1t repozit\u00f3rium\u00e1nak fenntart\u00e1s\u00e1nak el\u0151nyei k\u00f6z\u00f6tt eml\u00edt\u00e9st nyer, hogy a csomagok a megadott forr\u00e1sk\u00f3db\u00f3l k\u00e9sz\u00fcltek, \u00e9s csak a Fedora \u00e1ltal enged\u00e9lyezett, ny\u00edlt licenc\u0171 \u00f6sszetev\u0151ket tartalmaznak. A Fedora-repozit\u00f3riumban tal\u00e1lhat\u00f3 csomagok emellett tartalmazhatnak olyan jav\u00edt\u00e1sokat is, amelyek jelenleg csak az RPM-csomagokban \u00e9rhet\u0151k el a Fedora sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra, \u00e9s m\u00e9g nem ker\u00fcltek be a projektek f\u0151 k\u00f3db\u00e1zis\u00e1ba.      <\/p>\n<p>Michael javaslata az, hogy az atomikus Fedora Workstation verzi\u00f3 alap\u00e9rtelmezett be\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00e1sak\u00e9nt lehet\u0151v\u00e9 tegy\u00e9k a FlatHub-b\u00f3l sz\u00e1rmaz\u00f3, \u201eszabad szoftver\u201d kateg\u00f3ri\u00e1ba tartoz\u00f3 csomagok telep\u00edt\u00e9s\u00e9t. A FlatHub-b\u00f3l t\u00f6rt\u00e9n\u0151 telep\u00edt\u00e9s lehet\u0151s\u00e9ge csak azokra a csomagokra vonatkozik, amelyeket a felhaszn\u00e1l\u00f3k a GNOME Software alkalmaz\u00e1skezel\u0151n kereszt\u00fcl telep\u00edtenek. Az alap\u00e9rtelmez\u00e9s szerint el\u0151telep\u00edtett flatpak-csomagok tov\u00e1bbra is a Fedora saj\u00e1t repozit\u00f3rium\u00e1b\u00f3l fognak let\u00f6lt\u0151dni, de az alap\u00e9rtelmezett nem alkalmazott csomagok let\u00f6lt\u00e9si forr\u00e1sak\u00e9nt a FlatHub-ot javasoljuk.      <\/p>\n<p>A FlatHub-ra val\u00f3 \u00e1t\u00e1ll\u00e1s el\u0151tt javasolt k\u00f6z\u00f6sen megval\u00f3s\u00edtani a csomagok megb\u00edzhat\u00f3 infrastrukt\u00far\u00e1ban t\u00f6rt\u00e9n\u0151 \u00f6ssze\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00e1s\u00e1nak lehet\u0151s\u00e9geit a FlatHub-ban, \u00e9s bevezetni a reproduk\u00e1lhat\u00f3 \u00f6ssze\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00e1sok alap\u00fa ellen\u0151rz\u00e9seket. Ezen k\u00edv\u00fcl foglalkozni kell a csomagokban haszn\u00e1lt elavult Flatpak Runtime verzi\u00f3kkal, amelyekre m\u00e1r nem \u00e9rkeznek biztons\u00e1gi jav\u00edt\u00e1sok. Jelenleg a FlatHub-b\u00f3l sz\u00e1rmaz\u00f3 3438 ellen\u0151rz\u00f6tt csomag k\u00f6z\u00fcl 994 (majdnem egyharmad) elavult Runtime-ot haszn\u00e1l. A biztons\u00e1gi probl\u00e9m\u00e1k szint\u00e9n az elavult f\u00fcgg\u0151s\u00e9gek miatt mer\u00fclnek fel, amelyeket a csomagok tartalmaznak, valamint a megfelel\u0151 sandbox-elk\u00fcl\u00f6n\u00edt\u00e9si int\u00e9zked\u00e9sek alkalmaz\u00e1s\u00e1nak hi\u00e1nya miatt (bizonyos csomagok fejleszt\u0151i kikapcsolj\u00e1k a v\u00e9delmi m\u00f3dokat).        <\/p>\n<p>Michael mellett Timoth\u00e9e Ravier is hasonl\u00f3 javaslattal \u00e1llt el\u0151: a Fedora 43-ban javasolt, hogy folytass\u00e1k az alap\u00e9rtelmezett flatpak-csomagok sz\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00e1s\u00e1t a Fedora repozit\u00f3rium\u00e1b\u00f3l, de egy sz\u0171r\u0151t is bevezetn\u00e9nek, amely lehet\u0151v\u00e9 tenn\u00e9 a v\u00e1lasztott, ellen\u0151rz\u00f6tt alkalmaz\u00e1sok telep\u00edt\u00e9s\u00e9t a FlatHub-b\u00f3l. A javasolt megold\u00e1s el\u0151nyei k\u00f6z\u00f6tt szerepel, hogy cs\u00f6kkenti a felhaszn\u00e1l\u00f3k \u00e9s a f\u0151 projektek fejleszt\u0151i k\u00f6z\u00f6tti z\u0171rzavart (a fejleszt\u0151knek kezeln\u00fck kell a Fedora flatpak-csomagokkal kapcsolatos hiba\u00fczeneteket, amelyek \u00fagy t\u0171nik, mintha hivatalos flatpak-csomagok lenn\u00e9nek). A v\u00e1ltoz\u00e1s szint\u00e9n cs\u00f6kkenti a karbantart\u00f3k terh\u00e9t, lehet\u0151v\u00e9 t\u00e9ve sz\u00e1mukra, hogy a jav\u00edt\u00e1sok f\u0151 projektekbe val\u00f3 \u00e1tad\u00e1s\u00e1ra \u00e9s az alap\u00e9rtelmezett Flatpak-csomagok tesztel\u00e9s\u00e9re \u00f6sszpontos\u00edtsanak.<br \/>\n<br \/>Forr\u00e1s: <a content=\"nofollow\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=63617\">opennet.ru<\/a> <\/p>","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u041c\u0430\u0439\u043a\u043b \u041a\u0430\u0442\u0430\u043d\u0434\u0437\u0430\u0440\u043e (Michael Catanzaro), \u043e\u0434\u0438\u043d \u0438\u0437 \u0440\u0430\u0437\u0440\u0430\u0431\u043e\u0442\u0447\u0438\u043a\u043e\u0432 web-\u0431\u0440\u0430\u0443\u0437\u0435\u0440\u0430 Epiphany (GNOME Web), \u043f\u0440\u0438\u043d\u0438\u043c\u0430\u044e\u0449\u0438\u0439 \u0443\u0447\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0438\u0435 \u0432 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