{"id":39485,"date":"2019-10-31T22:33:55","date_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:33:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/alan-kej-chto-mozhno-nazvat-samym-udivitelnym-chto-kompyutery-sdelali-vozmozhnym\/"},"modified":"2019-10-31T22:33:55","modified_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:33:55","slug":"alan-kej-chto-mozhno-nazvat-samym-udivitelnym-chto-kompyutery-sdelali-vozmozhnym","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/hu\/blog\/news\/alan-kej-chto-mozhno-nazvat-samym-udivitelnym-chto-kompyutery-sdelali-vozmozhnym","title":{"rendered":"Alan Kay: What can be called the most amazing thing that computers have made possible","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Alan Kay: What can be called the most amazing thing that computers have made possible\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/e4512f52b8c1da19199d35db37c9b0fa.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><\/p>\n<p><b>Quora:<\/b> Mi tekinthet\u00fcnk a legcsod\u00e1latosabb dolognak, amit a sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00f3g\u00e9pek lehet\u0151v\u00e9 tettek?<\/p>\n<p><b>Alan Kay:<\/b> M\u00e9g mindig pr\u00f3b\u00e1lom megtanulni, hogyan gondolkodjak jobban.<\/p>\n<p>Azt hiszem, a v\u00e1lasz nagyon hasonl\u00f3 lesz ahhoz, ami a k\u00e9rd\u00e9sre adhat\u00f3, hogy \"mi a legcsod\u00e1latosabb dolog, amit az \u00edr\u00e1s (\u00e9s k\u00e9s\u0151bb a nyomda) lehet\u0151v\u00e9 tett?\"<\/p>\n<p>A l\u00e9nyeg nem az, hogy az \u00edr\u00e1s \u00e9s a k\u00f6nyvnyomtat\u00e1s olyan utaz\u00e1sokat tettek lehet\u0151v\u00e9, amelyek id\u0151ben \u00e9s t\u00e9rben teljesen elt\u00e9rnek, ez egy csod\u00e1latos \u00e9s fontos aspektus, hanem az, hogy egy \u00faj m\u00f3dot hoztak l\u00e9tre az \u00f6tleteken \u00e1t val\u00f3 utaz\u00e1sra, k\u00f6vetkez\u00e9sk\u00e9ppen annak, amit az olvas\u00e1s \u00e9s \u00edr\u00e1s foly\u00e9kony elsaj\u00e1t\u00edt\u00e1sa jelent. Sok tanulm\u00e1ny kimutatta, hogy az \u00edr\u00e1sbelis\u00e9ggel rendelkez\u0151 kult\u00far\u00e1k min\u0151s\u00e9gileg elt\u00e9rnek a hagyom\u00e1nyos sz\u00f3beli kult\u00far\u00e1kt\u00f3l, \u00e9s hogy a kapcsolat az \u00edr\u00e1sbelis\u00e9g \u00e9s a civiliz\u00e1ci\u00f3k k\u00f6z\u00f6tt l\u00e9tezik, \u00e9s ez nem v\u00e9letlen.<\/p>\n<p>Tov\u00e1bbi min\u0151s\u00e9gi v\u00e1ltoz\u00e1sok t\u00f6rt\u00e9ntek a nyomtat\u00e1s megjelen\u00e9s\u00e9vel, \u00e9s mindk\u00e9t v\u00e1ltoz\u00e1s kiss\u00e9 zavarba ejt\u0151, mivel mindegyik kezdetben egyfajta automatiz\u00e1l\u00e1sa volt a kor\u00e1bbiaknak: a besz\u00e9d r\u00f6gz\u00edt\u00e9se \u00e9s az \u00edr\u00e1s nyomtat\u00e1sa. Mindk\u00e9t esetben a k\u00fcl\u00f6nbs\u00e9g abban rejlik, hogy \"mi m\u00e9g?\". A \"mi m\u00e9g?\" a \"mi a k\u00fcl\u00f6nbs\u00e9g?\"-hez kapcsol\u00f3dik, ami akkor t\u00f6rt\u00e9nik, amikor az ember szabadon tud egy szersz\u00e1mot haszn\u00e1lni, k\u00fcl\u00f6n\u00f6sen azt, amely \u00f6tleteket \u00e9s cselekedeteket is hordoz.<\/p>\n<p>M\u00e9g sok mindent hozz\u00e1 lehetne tenni, ami meghaladja a Quora standard v\u00e1lasz\u00e1nak m\u00e9ret\u00e9t, de el\u0151sz\u00f6r is n\u00e9zz\u00fck meg, mit jelent az \u00edr\u00e1s \u00e9s a nyomtat\u00e1s a le\u00edr\u00e1s \u00e9s \u00e9rvel\u00e9s szempontj\u00e1b\u00f3l. Most \u00faj \u00edr\u00e1s- \u00e9s olvas\u00e1si m\u00f3dok \u00e1llnak rendelkez\u00e9sre form\u00e1ban, terjedelemben, strukt\u00far\u00e1ban \u00e9s tartalomt\u00edpusban. Mindez egy\u00fctt fejl\u0151dik az \u00faj \u00f6tlett\u00edpusokkal.<br \/>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"habracut\"><\/a><\/noindex><br \/>\nE f\u00e9ny\u00e9ben a k\u00e9rd\u00e9s \u00edgy fogalmazhat\u00f3 meg: milyen min\u0151s\u00e9gileg \u00faj \u00e9s fontos dolgot hoznak a sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00f3g\u00e9pek? Gondoljunk arra, hogy mit jelent nemcsak az \u00f6tlet le\u00edr\u00e1sa, hanem k\u00e9pesnek lenni azt modellezni, megval\u00f3s\u00edtani, megvizsg\u00e1lni a k\u00f6vetkezm\u00e9nyeit \u00e9s a rejtett feltev\u00e9seit \u00fagy, ahogy azt soha kor\u00e1bban nem tett\u00fck. Joseph Licklider (J.C.R. Licklider \u2013 Joseph Carl Robnett Licklider), aki megszervezte az els\u0151 ARPA kutat\u00e1st, amely a mai szem\u00e9lyi sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00f3g\u00e9pek \u00e9s mindennapi h\u00e1l\u00f3zatok kialakul\u00e1s\u00e1hoz vezetett, 1960-ban \u00edgy \u00edrt (kicsit \u00e1tfogalmazva): \"N\u00e9h\u00e1ny \u00e9ven bel\u00fcl az emberek \u00e9s a sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00f3g\u00e9pek k\u00f6z\u00f6tti kapcsolatok \u00fagy fognak gondolkodni, ahogyan eddig senki\".<\/p>\n<p>Ez a v\u00edzi\u00f3 el\u0151sz\u00f6r kieg\u00e9sz\u00edt\u0151 eszk\u00f6z\u00f6kkel \u00e9s sz\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00f3eszk\u00f6z\u00f6kkel lett \u00f6sszehasonl\u00edtva, de hamarosan sokkal sz\u00e9lesebb l\u00e9pt\u00e9k\u0171 \u00f6tletk\u00e9nt lett felfogva, amely a kommunik\u00e1ci\u00f3k \u00e9s a gondolkod\u00e1sfajt\u00e1k megv\u00e1ltoztat\u00e1s\u00e1r\u00f3l sz\u00f3l, \u00e9s olyan forradalmi lesz, mint amit a \u00edr\u00e1sbelis\u00e9g \u00e9s a nyomtat\u00e1s hozott.<\/p>\n<p>Ahhoz, hogy meg\u00e9rts\u00fck, mi t\u00f6rt\u00e9nt, csak a \u00edr\u00e1sbelis\u00e9g \u00e9s a nyomtat\u00e1s t\u00f6rt\u00e9net\u00e9re kell pillantanunk, hogy megjegyezz\u00fck a k\u00e9t teljesen k\u00fcl\u00f6nb\u00f6z\u0151 k\u00f6vetkezm\u00e9nyt: (a) az elm\u00falt 450 \u00e9v \u00f3ri\u00e1si v\u00e1ltoz\u00e1sa abban, ahogyan a fizikai \u00e9s t\u00e1rsadalmi vil\u00e1gokat a modern tudom\u00e1nyos \u00e9s vezet\u00e9si tal\u00e1lm\u00e1nyok t\u00fckr\u00f6zik, \u00e9s (b) hogy a legt\u00f6bb ember, aki egy\u00e1ltal\u00e1n olvas, m\u00e9g mindig nagy r\u00e9szesed\u00e9ssel b\u00edr a sz\u00e9pirodalom, az \u00f6nfejleszt\u0151 k\u00f6nyvek \u00e9s a vall\u00e1s, a szak\u00e1csk\u00f6nyvek stb. ir\u00e1nt (a legut\u00f3bbi 10 \u00e9v legolvasottabb k\u00f6nyvei alapj\u00e1n az Egyes\u00fclt \u00c1llamokban). Minden t\u00e9ma, amely ismer\u0151s lenne b\u00e1rmely barlanglak\u00f3nak.<\/p>\n<p>Az egyik m\u00f3dja annak, hogy erre r\u00e1n\u00e9zz\u00fcnk, az az, hogy amikor egy \u00faj, hat\u00e9kony \u00f6nkifejez\u00e9si forma mer\u00fcl fel, amely hi\u00e1nyzik a g\u00e9neinkb\u0151l, hogy r\u00e9sze legyen a hagyom\u00e1nyos kult\u00far\u00e1knak, meg kell tanulnunk szabadon birtokolni \u00e9s haszn\u00e1lni azt. K\u00fcl\u00f6nleges oktat\u00e1s n\u00e9lk\u00fcl az \u00faj t\u00f6megkommunik\u00e1ci\u00f3s eszk\u00f6z\u00f6k f\u0151k\u00e9nt a r\u00e9gi gondolkod\u00e1si form\u00e1k automatiz\u00e1l\u00e1s\u00e1ra fognak szolg\u00e1lni. \u00c9s itt is k\u00f6vetkezm\u00e9nyek v\u00e1rnak r\u00e1nk, k\u00fcl\u00f6n\u00f6sen, ha az \u00faj inform\u00e1ci\u00f3sz\u00f3r\u00e1si m\u00f3dszerek hat\u00e9konyabb\u00e1 v\u00e1lnak a r\u00e9giakkal szemben, ami t\u00faltel\u00edtetts\u00e9ghez vezethet, amely leg\u00e1lis drogokk\u00e9nt hathat (ahogy a ipari forradalom k\u00e9pess\u00e9ge a cukor \u00e9s zs\u00edr gy\u00e1rt\u00e1s\u00e1ra, \u00fagy a k\u00f6rnyezetben is kialakulhat a t\u00f6rt\u00e9netek, h\u00edrek, st\u00e1tuszok \u00e9s \u00faj sz\u00f3beli interakci\u00f3s m\u00f3dok t\u00falzott m\u00e9rt\u00e9ke).<\/p>\n<p>M\u00e1sr\u00e9szr\u0151l, szinte minden tudom\u00e1ny \u00e9s m\u00e9rn\u00f6ki tudom\u00e1ny csak a sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00f3g\u00e9pek r\u00e9v\u00e9n lehets\u00e9ges, \u00e9s f\u0151k\u00e9nt a sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00f3g\u00e9pek \u00f6tleteket akt\u00edvan modellez\u0151 k\u00e9pess\u00e9ge \u00e1ltal (bele\u00e9rtve mag\u00e1t a \u201egondolkod\u00e1s \u00f6tlet\u00e9t\u201d is), figyelembe v\u00e9ve a nyomtat\u00e1s \u00e1ltal m\u00e1r el\u00e9rt \u00f3ri\u00e1si hozz\u00e1j\u00e1rul\u00e1st.<\/p>\n<p>Einstein megjegyezte, hogy \u201enem tudjuk megoldani a probl\u00e9m\u00e1inkat ugyanazzal a gondolkod\u00e1sm\u00f3ddal, amely l\u00e9trehozta \u0151ket\u201d. Haszn\u00e1lhatjuk a sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00f3g\u00e9peket, hogy a legnagyobb probl\u00e9m\u00e1inkat \u00faj m\u00f3dokon oldjuk meg.<\/p>\n<p>M\u00e1sr\u00e9szt hatalmas probl\u00e9m\u00e1ink lesznek, ha sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00f3g\u00e9peket haszn\u00e1lunk \u00faj szint\u0171 probl\u00e9m\u00e1k l\u00e9trehoz\u00e1s\u00e1ra, amelyekhez a gondolkod\u00e1sunk szintje nem alkalmazkodott, \u00e9s amelyeket el kell ker\u00fclni \u00e9s megsz\u00fcntetni. J\u00f3 anal\u00f3gia tal\u00e1lhat\u00f3 a \u201ea nukle\u00e1ris fegyver vesz\u00e9lyes b\u00e1rmilyen emberi k\u00e9zben\u201d, de \u201ea nukle\u00e1ris fegyver a barlanglak\u00f3k kez\u00e9ben sokkal vesz\u00e9lyesebb\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>A nagy v\u00edzhangz\u00f3 mond\u00e1s Vi Hartt\u00f3l: \u201eGondoskodnunk kell arr\u00f3l, hogy az emberi b\u00f6lcsess\u00e9g fel\u00fclm\u00falja az emberi er\u0151t\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Nem szerezhet\u00fcnk b\u00f6lcsess\u00e9get jelent\u0151s er\u0151fesz\u00edt\u00e9sek n\u00e9lk\u00fcl, k\u00fcl\u00f6n\u00f6sen a gyermekek eset\u00e9ben, akik \u00e9ppen kezdenek vil\u00e1gk\u00e9pet form\u00e1lni a vil\u00e1gban, amelybe sz\u00fclettek.<\/p>\n<p><i>Ford\u00edt\u00f3: Jana Shchekotova<\/i><\/p>\n<p><b class=\"spoiler_title\">Alan Kay tov\u00e1bbi cikkei<\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/company\/edison\/blog\/300922\/\">Boldog sz\u00fclet\u00e9snapot, Alan Kay\u01c3 (vagy hogyan lehet +80 IQ-t szerezni)<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/company\/edison\/blog\/310588\/\">Alan Kay: A j\u00f6v\u0151 'olvas\u00e1sa' a 'nehezen \u00e9rthet\u0151 dolgok tanul\u00e1s\u00e1t\u00f3l' f\u00fcgg<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/company\/philtech\/blog\/420555\/\">Alan Kay: 'A sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00f3g\u00e9pek eszk\u00f6z\u00f6k, melyek zen\u00e9je - az \u00f6tletek'<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/company\/philtech\/blog\/414983\/\">Alan Kay: Mi tette k\u00fcl\u00f6nlegess\u00e9 a Xerox PARC-ot \u00e9s ki hasonl\u00edt r\u00e1juk ma?<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/company\/goto\/blog\/358912\/\">Alan Kay: A men\u0151 koncepci\u00f3knak is sz\u00fcks\u00e9g\u00fck van szeretetre<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/company\/goto\/blog\/346080\/\">Alan Kay: Hogy \u00e1ll az emberis\u00e9g, n\u00e9z\u0151pont az '\u0171rb\u0151l'<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/company\/goto\/blog\/352250\/\">Alan Kay \u00e9s Marvin Minsky: A sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00e1stechnika m\u00e1r rendelkezik 'nyelvtannal'. Sz\u00fcks\u00e9g van 'irodalomra'.<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/company\/goto\/blog\/352156\/\">Alan Kay (\u00e9s a Habr kollekt\u00edv intelligenci\u00e1ja): Melyik k\u00f6nyvek form\u00e1lj\u00e1k a val\u00f3di m\u00e9rn\u00f6k gondolkod\u00e1s\u00e1t?<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/company\/goto\/blog\/352090\/\">Alan Kay: Hogyan tan\u00edtan\u00e1m a Sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00e1stechnika 101 tant\u00e1rgyat<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/company\/philtech\/blog\/350830\/\">Alan Kay: A j\u00f6v\u0151t nem lehet fokozatosan fel\u00e9p\u00edteni<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/post\/317278\/\">Szem\u00e9ly. Alan Kay - pr\u00f3f\u00e9ta, a GUI koncepci\u00f3 \u00e9s a Smalltalk nyelv alkot\u00f3ja<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/company\/edison\/blog\/310588\/\">Alan Kay: A j\u00f6v\u0151 'olvas\u00e1sa' a 'nehezen \u00e9rthet\u0151 dolgok tanul\u00e1s\u00e1t\u00f3l' f\u00fcgg<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/company\/hexlet\/blog\/303754\/\">Alan Kay, az OOP l\u00e9trehoz\u00f3ja, a fejleszt\u00e9sr\u0151l, Lisp-r\u0151l \u00e9s OOP-r\u0151l<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/company\/edison\/blog\/300922\/\">Boldog sz\u00fclet\u00e9snapot, Alan Kay\u01c3 (vagy hogyan lehet +80 IQ-t szerezni)<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/post\/77316\/\">Alan Kay a sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00f3g\u00e9pek vil\u00e1g\u00e1ban<\/a><\/noindex><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Forr\u00e1s: <a content=\"nofollow\" rel=\"nofollow\" 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