{"id":153586,"date":"2026-01-15T17:12:03","date_gmt":"2026-01-15T15:12:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/novosti-interneta\/v-debian-14-namereny-prekratit-postavku-gtk2"},"modified":"2026-01-15T17:12:03","modified_gmt":"2026-01-15T15:12:03","slug":"v-debian-14-namereny-prekratit-postavku-gtk2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/pl\/blog\/news\/v-debian-14-namereny-prekratit-postavku-gtk2","title":{"rendered":"W Debianie 14 planuj\u0105 zaprzesta\u0107 dostarczania GTK2","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Zesp\u00f3\u0142 opieku\u0144czy Debian odpowiedzialny za pakiety z GNOME planuje nie dostarcza\u0107 narz\u0119dzia GTK2 w dystrybucji Debian 14, kt\u00f3rej wydanie przewidziano na lato 2027 roku. Deweloperzy projektu GTK zaprzestali wsparcia dla GTK2 ponad pi\u0119\u0107 lat temu, a kontynuowanie wsparcia dla porzuconego GTK2 w g\u0142\u00f3wnym repozytorium staje si\u0119 problematyczne. W\u015br\u00f3d dystrybucji, kt\u00f3re ju\u017c przesta\u0142y dostarcza\u0107 GTK2, mo\u017cna wymieni\u0107 Red Hat Enterprise Linux, SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 16, openSUSE 16 oraz Arch Linux. Zasugerowano, aby Debian poszed\u0142 ich przyk\u0142adem.        <\/p>\n<p>Do znacz\u0105cych projekt\u00f3w zwi\u0105zanych z GTK2 do niedawna nale\u017ca\u0142 GIMP, ale od GIMP 3.0 ten edytor graficzny zosta\u0142 przeniesiony na GTK3. GTK jest r\u00f3wnie\u017c u\u017cywane w popularnym edytorze d\u017awi\u0119ku Ardour, jednak ten projekt nie zale\u017cy od zewn\u0119trznych bibliotek i wspiera w\u0142asny fork GTK2 \u2014 YTK.         <\/p>\n<p>Najpowa\u017cniejszym problemem, kt\u00f3ry blokuje usuni\u0119cie GTK2, jest to, \u017ce GTK2 wci\u0105\u017c jest u\u017cywane w graficznym instalatorze Debian. W repozytorium Debian znajduje si\u0119 r\u00f3wnie\u017c oko\u0142o 150 pakiet\u00f3w zwi\u0105zanych z zale\u017cno\u015bciami z GTK2, a w przypadku zaprzestania dostarczania GTK2 te pakiety b\u0119d\u0105 musia\u0142y zosta\u0107 usuni\u0119te, poniewa\u017c w wi\u0119kszo\u015bci z nich nie prowadzi si\u0119 dalszego rozwoju, a ich przeniesienie na GTK3 jest ma\u0142o prawdopodobne.         <\/p>\n<p>Wielu z tych pakiet\u00f3w wci\u0105\u017c ma aktywnych u\u017cytkownik\u00f3w, kt\u00f3rzy nie zamierzaj\u0105 przechodzi\u0107 na inne programy. Ponadto znale\u017ali si\u0119 deweloperzy, kt\u00f3rzy opowiedzieli si\u0119 za utrzymaniem wsparcia dla GTK2 w Debian i uwa\u017caj\u0105 pow\u00f3d jego usuni\u0119cia za wyimaginowany. Na przyk\u0142ad, wzmianka, \u017ce GTK3 zosta\u0142 wydany 15 lat temu, nie ma sensu, poniewa\u017c GTK3 nie zast\u0119puje GTK2, tak jak GTK4 nie zast\u0119puje GTK3.     <\/p>\n<p>Poddawane s\u0105 r\u00f3wnie\u017c w w\u0105tpliwo\u015b\u0107 takie argumenty, jak brak wsparcia dla HiDPI i Wayland w GTK2, poniewa\u017c po prostu nie s\u0105 one w nim potrzebne i u\u017cytkownik\u00f3w to zadowala. Por\u00f3wnanie z Arch Linux, w kt\u00f3rym GTK2 zosta\u0142o wykluczone z g\u0142\u00f3wnego repozytorium, ale jest dost\u0119pne w nieoficjalnych, r\u00f3wnie\u017c uwa\u017ca si\u0119 za nieadekwatne. 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