{"id":87290,"date":"2020-07-06T19:42:10","date_gmt":"2020-07-06T17:42:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/novosti-interneta\/linus-torvalds-o-problemah-s-poiskom-mejntejnerov-rust-i-rabochih-proczessah"},"modified":"2020-07-06T19:42:10","modified_gmt":"2020-07-06T17:42:10","slug":"linus-torvalds-o-problemah-s-poiskom-mejntejnerov-rust-i-rabochih-proczessah","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/pl\/blog\/news\/linus-torvalds-o-problemah-s-poiskom-mejntejnerov-rust-i-rabochih-proczessah","title":{"rendered":"Linus Torvalds o problemach z poszukiwaniem opiekun\u00f3w, Rust i procesach roboczych","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Na odbywaj\u0105cej si\u0119 w zesz\u0142ym tygodniu wirtualnej konferencji &#171;<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/events.linuxfoundation.org\/open-source-summit-north-america\/\">Open Source Summit and Embedded Linux<\/a><\/noindex>&#187; Linus Torvalds<br \/>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2020\/06\/30\/hard_to_find_linux_maintainers_says_torvalds\/\">om\u00f3wi\u0142<\/a><\/noindex> omawia\u0142 tera\u017aniejszo\u015b\u0107 i przysz\u0142o\u015b\u0107 j\u0105dra Linux podczas wprowadzenia z Dirkiem Hohndelem z firmy VMware. W trakcie dyskusji poruszono temat zmiany pokole\u0144 w\u015br\u00f3d programist\u00f3w. Linus zaznaczy\u0142, \u017ce mimo prawie 30-letniej historii projektu, og\u00f3lnie rzecz bior\u0105c, spo\u0142eczno\u015b\u0107 nie jest a\u017c tak stara \u2014 w\u015br\u00f3d programist\u00f3w jest wielu nowych ludzi, kt\u00f3rzy nie maj\u0105 jeszcze 50 lat. Wieloletni uczestnicy rzeczywi\u015bcie si\u0119 starzej\u0105 i siwiej\u0105, ale ci, kt\u00f3rzy od dawna s\u0105 zaanga\u017cowani w projekt, zazwyczaj przeszli z pisania nowego kodu na zadania zwi\u0105zane z utrzymaniem lub zarz\u0105dzaniem.<\/p>\n<p>Poszukiwanie nowych maintainer\u00f3w stanowi du\u017c\u0105 problem. W spo\u0142eczno\u015bci jest wiele aktywnych programist\u00f3w, kt\u00f3rzy ch\u0119tnie pisz\u0105 nowy kod, ale niewielu jest gotowych po\u015bwi\u0119ci\u0107 sw\u00f3j czas na utrzymanie i weryfikacj\u0119 cudzych kod\u00f3w.<br \/>\nOpr\u00f3cz profesjonalizmu, \u015bwie\u017co\u015bci m\u0119cz\u0105cy musz\u0105 korzysta\u0107 z bezwzgl\u0119dnego zaufania. Od m\u0119cz\u0105cych wymaga si\u0119 tak\u017ce sta\u0142ego zaanga\u017cowania w proces oraz ci\u0105g\u0142ej pracy \u2014 osoba odpowiedzialna zawsze musi by\u0107 dost\u0119pna, codziennie przegl\u0105da\u0107 wiadomo\u015bci i na nie reagowa\u0107. Praca w takich warunkach wymaga du\u017cej samodyscypliny, dlatego jest niewielu m\u0119cz\u0105cych i ich brakuje, a znalezienie nowych, kt\u00f3rzy s\u0105 w stanie recenzowa\u0107 kod innych i kierowa\u0107 zmiany do wy\u017cszych m\u0119cz\u0105cych, staje si\u0119 jednym z g\u0142\u00f3wnych problem\u00f3w w spo\u0142eczno\u015bci.<\/p>\n<p>Na pytanie o eksperymenty w j\u0105drze, Linus odpowiedzia\u0142, \u017ce spo\u0142eczno\u015b\u0107 programist\u00f3w j\u0105dra nie mo\u017ce sobie ju\u017c pozwoli\u0107 na pewne szalone zmiany, kt\u00f3re by\u0142y realizowane wcze\u015bniej. Je\u015bli wcze\u015bniej rozw\u00f3j nie wi\u0105za\u0142 si\u0119 z \u017cadnymi obowi\u0105zkami, to teraz od j\u0105dra Linux zale\u017cy zbyt wiele system\u00f3w.<\/p>\n<p>Na pytanie o przerobienie j\u0105dra w takich j\u0119zykach jak Go i Rust, poniewa\u017c istnieje ryzyko, \u017ce w latach 30. programi\u015bci C przekszta\u0142c\u0105 si\u0119 w obecnych programist\u00f3w COBOL, Linus odpowiedzia\u0142, \u017ce j\u0119zyk C pozostaje w czo\u0142\u00f3wce najpopularniejszych j\u0119zyk\u00f3w, ale dla nieg\u0142\u00f3wnych podsystem\u00f3w, takich jak sterowniki urz\u0105dze\u0144, rozwa\u017ca si\u0119 <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=51401\">mo\u017cliwo\u015b\u0107<\/a><\/noindex> zapewnienie powi\u0105za\u0144 dla rozwoju w takich j\u0119zykach jak Rust. W przysz\u0142o\u015bci oczekuje si\u0119 wprowadzenia r\u00f3\u017cnych modeli pisania podobnych wt\u00f3rnych komponent\u00f3w, nie ograniczaj\u0105c si\u0119 do stosowania j\u0119zyka C.<\/p>\n<p><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=53216\">Zamiar<\/a><\/noindex> firmy Apple dotycz\u0105cy u\u017cycia procesor\u00f3w architektury ARM w komputerach stacjonarnych i laptopach zosta\u0142 skomentowany przez Linusa z nadziej\u0105, \u017ce krok ten przyczyni si\u0119 do zwi\u0119kszenia dost\u0119pno\u015bci ARM dla stacji roboczych. Przez ostatnie 10 lat Linus narzeka\u0142 na brak system\u00f3w ARM, kt\u00f3re odpowiada\u0142yby wymaganiom programist\u00f3w. Podobnie jak w przypadku wykorzystania ARM przez firm\u0119 Amazon, kt\u00f3re umo\u017cliwi\u0142o promowanie tej architektury w systemach serwerowych, nie jest wykluczone, \u017ce dzia\u0142ania Apple mog\u0105 w ci\u0105gu kilku lat doprowadzi\u0107 do dost\u0119pno\u015bci pot\u0119\u017cnych komputer\u00f3w PC opartych na ARM, kt\u00f3re mo\u017cna wykorzysta\u0107 do programowania. Odno\u015bnie swojego <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=53020\">nowego PC<\/a><\/noindex> opartego na procesorze AMD, Linus wspomnia\u0142, \u017ce wszystko dzia\u0142a dobrze, je\u015bli nie liczy\u0107 g\u0142o\u015bnego wentylatora.<\/p>\n<p>O pracy nad j\u0105drem Linus powiedzia\u0142, \u017ce jest to jednocze\u015bnie nudne i interesuj\u0105ce. Nudne, poniewa\u017c wi\u0105\u017ce si\u0119 z rutyn\u0105 poprawiania b\u0142\u0119d\u00f3w i porz\u0105dkowania kodu, a interesuj\u0105ce, poniewa\u017c trzeba na bie\u017c\u0105co poznawa\u0107 nowe technologie, wsp\u00f3\u0142pracowa\u0107 ze sprz\u0119tem na niskim poziomie i kontrolowa\u0107 wszystko, co si\u0119 dzieje.<\/p>\n<p>Na temat COVID-19 Linus wspomnia\u0142, \u017ce pandemia i izolacja nie wp\u0142yn\u0119\u0142y na rozw\u00f3j, poniewa\u017c procesy wsp\u00f3\u0142pracy odbywaj\u0105 si\u0119 g\u0142\u00f3wnie przez e-maile i zdalny rozw\u00f3j. \u017baden z programist\u00f3w j\u0105dra, z kt\u00f3rymi Linus wsp\u00f3\u0142pracuje, nie zosta\u0142 zaka\u017cony. Niepok\u00f3j wzbudzi\u0142o znikni\u0119cie jednego z wsp\u00f3\u0142pracownik\u00f3w na miesi\u0105c lub dwa, ale okaza\u0142o si\u0119, \u017ce by\u0142o to spowodowane zespo\u0142em cie\u015bni nadgarstka.<\/p>\n<p>Linus r\u00f3wnie\u017c wspomnia\u0142, \u017ce przy rozwijaniu j\u0105dra 5.8 b\u0119dzie trzeba po\u015bwi\u0119ci\u0107 wi\u0119cej czasu na przygotowanie wydania oraz wyda\u0107 jeden lub dwa dodatkowe wydania testowe, poniewa\u017c to j\u0105dro okaza\u0142o si\u0119 <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=53157\">niezwykle du\u017ce<\/a><\/noindex> pod wzgl\u0119dem liczby zmian. Og\u00f3lnie rzecz bior\u0105c, prace nad 5.8 prowadzono jak dot\u0105d do\u015b\u0107 sprawnie.<\/p>\n<p>W innym wywiadzie Linus <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=H8Gd9t7FQqI\">twierdzi\u0142<\/a><\/noindex>, \u017ce ju\u017c nie uwa\u017ca si\u0119 za programist\u0119 i odst\u0105pi\u0142 od \u043d\u0430\u043f\u0438\u0441\u0430\u043d\u0438\u044f nowego kodu, poniewa\u017c od dawna pisze kod tylko w kliencie poczty elektronicznej. Ca\u0142y sw\u00f3j czas po\u015bwi\u0119ca na czytanie e-maili i pisanie wiadomo\u015bci. Jego praca ogranicza si\u0119 do recenzowania wysy\u0142anych za pomoc\u0105 mailing\u00f3w patchy i pull request\u00f3w, a tak\u017ce uczestnictwa w dyskusjach na temat proponowanych zmian. 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