{"id":34184,"date":"2019-10-31T21:56:52","date_gmt":"2019-10-31T18:56:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/linux-install-fest-vid-sboku\/"},"modified":"2019-10-31T21:56:52","modified_gmt":"2019-10-31T18:56:52","slug":"linux-install-fest-vid-sboku","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/ro\/blog\/administrirovanie\/linux-install-fest-vid-sboku","title":{"rendered":"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Acum c\u00e2teva zile, la Nizhny Novgorod a avut loc un eveniment clasic din vremea \u201einternetului limitat\u201d \u2014 <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/nnlug.ru\/lif0519\">Linux Install Fest 05.19<\/a><\/noindex>.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/705e4860b00c60e1bd53e9c15ddfd8ca.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nAcest format este sus\u021binut de mult timp (~2005) de NNLUG (grupul regional de utilizatori Linux).<br \/>\nAst\u0103zi nu mai este obi\u0219nuit s\u0103 copiezi \u201ede pe hard disk pe hard disk\u201d \u0219i s\u0103 distribui CD-uri cu cele mai recente distribu\u021bii. Internetul este accesibil tuturor \u0219i str\u0103luce\u0219te literalmente din fiecare aparat. <br \/>\n\u00cen acela\u0219i timp, componenta educa\u021bional\u0103 r\u0103m\u00e2ne relevant\u0103. Importan\u021ba sa a fost confirmat\u0103 \u0219i de festival \u0219i de aceast\u0103 dat\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Organizatorii au propus vorbitorilor s\u0103 discute orice tem\u0103 interesant\u0103 din domeniul Linux \u0219i soft-ului liber. Ca urmare, lista final\u0103 a acoperit sarcini serioase de \u201eadministrare\u201d, grafic\u0103, sectorul de jocuri \u0219i aplica\u021bii audio-muzicale.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen timp ce vorbitorii \u00ee\u0219i \u00eenregistrau temele pe <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/nnlug.ru\/lif0519\">site-ul NNLUG<\/a><\/noindex>, organizatorii f\u0103ceau anun\u021buri, inclusiv pe <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/ru\/post\/450938\/\">Habr<\/a><\/noindex>. Imediat a fost \u00eentocmit un task-list \u00een GD, deschis tuturor celor care doreau s\u0103 se al\u0103ture preg\u0103tirii.<\/p>\n<h3>Ce pl\u0103nuiau organizatorii?<\/h3>\n<p>\n8 prezent\u0103ri, demonstra\u021bii ale celor mai recente distribu\u021bii Linux, standuri de jocuri de diferite dimensiuni \u0219i, a\u0219a cum s-a dovedit mai t\u00e2rziu \u2014 o sesiune muzical\u0103 la final.<br \/>\nToate acestea \u2014 \u00eentr-o sal\u0103 de festivit\u0103\u021bi spa\u021bioas\u0103 a NRTK cu o acustic\u0103 decent\u0103 \u0219i o mas\u0103 cu ceai \u00eentr-un col\u021b.<br \/>\n<i>Mai jos vor fi imagini foto!<\/i><br \/>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"habracut\"><\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u0218i a venit s\u00e2mb\u0103ta. \u00cen aer plutea un spirit teribil al s\u0103rb\u0103torii (C)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nAlexey a fost primul care a g\u0103sit mesele \u00eenc\u0103 goale \u0219i a deschis un stand de jocuri. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/149611696c73c0af3b153a6b91ce75f3.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<i>Str\u0103lucirea neon <b>a unui hardware puternic<\/b> \u0219i gamerii erau deja acolo. <\/i><\/p>\n<p>R\u00e2ndul gamerilor a fost \u00eent\u0103rit de RetroPie cu controlere (setul a fost asamblat \u0219i testat de Egor). Problema de a lansa emulatorul SEGA nu a fost rezolvat\u0103.<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/dd05d70a56685bf657e9ce27e0d78bfb.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/ad098e83e50b586117b11211ceda6e2c.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<i>A fost prezent un reprezentant unic al unui proiect acum desfiin\u021bat \u2014 PocketChip. Hackerii locali l-au convins pe proprietar s\u0103-l ofere pentru o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 pentru examinare.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>\u00centre timp, Sergey \u0219i Alexey au activat ma\u0219inile demo, pe care imediat a fost lansat\u0103 instalarea urm\u0103toarelor distribu\u021bii Linux:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Ubuntu 18.04.2<\/li>\n<li>Lubuntu 19.04<\/li>\n<li>Solus 4.0 Budgie<\/li>\n<li>Astra Linux CE (2.12)<\/li>\n<li>Alt-Linux. Versiunea nu este nou\u0103, a\u0219a c\u0103 nu o men\u021bion\u0103m.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\nPu\u021bin mai \u00eencolo, s-a aflat Ubuntu MATE 18.04.2 pe RPi 3.<\/p>\n<p>Unul dintre participan\u021bi s-a interesat pe bun\u0103 dreptate:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>De ce at\u00e2t de multe <b>diferite<\/b> distribu\u021bii Linux?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00centrebarea este corect\u0103, nu am g\u0103sit ce s\u0103 r\u0103spund. Pe ma\u0219ina mea de acas\u0103 rula Debian Lenny cu KDE3 \u0219i era suficient pentru sarcini de birou tipice \u0219i multimedia.<br \/>\nSe pare c\u0103, \u00een afar\u0103 de birourile variate, diferitele distribu\u021bii pot avea \u0219i o filosofie unic\u0103, abord\u0103ri, nuan\u021be de configurare \u0219i securitate. Multe dintre distribu\u021biile recomandate de comunitatea NNLUG trebuie s\u0103 fie p\u0103strate pentru studiu \u00een viitor.<br \/>\n<b class=\"spoiler_title\">C\u00e2teva capturi de ecran \u0219i impresii superficiale despre distribu\u021bii \u2014 \u00een sec\u021biunea de detalii:<\/b><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/7f0415fa3928fb06f1beed9667437d56.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<i>Ubuntu 18.04.2. O fotografie nefericit realizat\u0103 reflect\u0103, \u00een principiu, primele mele impresii despre Gnome: un mediu similar tabletelor. \u00cen esen\u021b\u0103, nu e r\u0103u, dac\u0103 ai obiceiul de a \u00abarunca o privire\u00bb pe un morman de pictograme.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/be783e78bab0e0c4e01527c98173755f.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<i>Lubuntu 19.04. Elegant \u0219i concis. Probabil c\u0103 aceasta este alegerea mea num\u0103rul 1 dintre candida\u021bi.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/22c9d959ab000cf9c52bcc158de83972.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<i>Solus 4.0 Budgie. Cu siguran\u021b\u0103 frumos: feronerie semi-transparent\u0103, grup\u0103ri pe baza aplica\u021biilor lansate, dar nu exact ceea ce c\u0103utam.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/2774d55d48363fccc7a76dd0db29f27e.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<i>Astra Linux CE (2.12). Locul 2 \u00een clasamentul personal. A durat mai mult s\u0103 se instaleze deoarece, \u00een mod previzibil (din cauza dimensiunii \u0219i anun\u021burilor de pe site), a instalat foarte multe. La instalare, a cerut o parol\u0103 complex\u0103 \u0219i pu\u021bin mai t\u00e2rziu a afi\u0219at o list\u0103 de checkbox-uri, care determinau un nivel de securitate mai stringent. Lu\u00e2nd \u00een considerare abordarea de creare, acesta este un candidat pentru un studiu detaliat \u00een viitor.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Alt-linux mi-a adus aminte de KDE3, mai vechi. Foarte simplu, cu software specializat pentru educa\u021bie. \u0218i printre ele s-a aflat \u0219i basic!<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/b17106cebe82a215d700b2160c9d0874.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/e72d13ecc337f73b5583fdfcd5357cb3.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n Ubuntu MATE 18.04.2.<\/p>\n<p>\nCu o mic\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2rziere, evenimentul a \u00eenceput oficial. Urmeaz\u0103 o opinie subiectiv\u0103 despre prezent\u0103ri. Po\u021bi viziona \u00eenregistr\u0103rile pentru o informare complet\u0103. <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/FRhJ-rvQdHY\">a unui stream de 6 ore<\/a><\/noindex>.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/a1ec5dc4245e1b12bb22cfea53e7db58.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<i>Denis vorbe\u0219te despre un pachet interesant numit Meshroom. Pe scurt, pe baza a 50-100 de fotografii ale unui obiect din diferite unghiuri, programul construie\u0219te un model 3D cu texturi generate. Au fost demonstrate nuan\u021bele de configurare \u0219i rezultatele ob\u021binute.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/0a4cf67a10cf78482a45b6f1b9d65f28.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<i>Vladimir a ad\u0103ugat o greutate virtual\u0103, men\u021bion\u00e2nd Proxmox VE: \u00een principal cazuri de utilizare \u0219i impresii generale. Lans\u0103rile acestui instrument bazat pe Debian nu sunt frecvente, dar pentru suportul \u0219i actualiz\u0103rile sale sunt necesare condi\u021bii mai speciale.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/46b5c4dbe42980c566372f8fe6a24b53.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<i>Innocen\u021biu a vorbit despre un pachet educativ de jocuri pentru copii numit GCompris. Software-ul este destinat copiilor de aproximativ 3 ani \u0219i con\u021bine diferite tipuri de jocuri mici. Forma ludic\u0103 poate stimula suplimentar dezvoltarea copiilor: extinderea orizontului, dezvoltarea logicii, metode de abordare a copiilor cu autism.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Noua versiune Blender 2.8, conform lui Denis (a doua sa prezentare), func\u021bioneaz\u0103 mai stabil dec\u00e2t unele alternative. Corectarea func\u021bionalit\u0103\u021bii. Modific\u0103ri \u00een interfa\u021b\u0103.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/5a1b80666431863a25dc19649e6c2cd6.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<i>Artem Ka\u0219kanov (<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/ru\/users\/radiolok\/\" class=\"user_link\">radiolok<\/a><\/noindex>) laud\u0103 Nextcloud. Spune c\u0103 \u00eel folose\u0219te de mult timp cu mult succes. O variant\u0103 decent\u0103 de a avea un \u201eanalog local DropBox\u201d.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Artem Pop\u021bov (<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/ru\/users\/avvvp\/\" class=\"user_link\">avvvp<\/a><\/noindex>) a men\u021bionat celebrul Audacity, oferind o introducere filozofic\u0103 prin demonstrarea unei sinusoide corecte. Un pachet excelent, un compresor bun, standardul de facto pentru procesarea ini\u021bial\u0103 a sunetului pe Linux (p\u0103rerea mea personal\u0103).<\/p>\n<p>Mai multe detalii despre procesarea audio au fost prezentate \u0219i demonstrate \u00een urm\u0103toarea prezentare a lui Ilya. El, ca muzician \u0219i compozitor profesionist, a folosit cu succes Ubunty Studio \u00een crea\u021biile sale. Prezentarea a atins fundamentele sistemului audio \u00een Linux \u0219i pachete mai specifice precum Supercollider \u0219i Pure Data.<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/124886d6bc6bce3fd43d6f43ea3fa1d9.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n\u00cen final, Fyodor a dezvoltat paradigma software-ului liber \u00een N dimensiuni, model\u00e2nd-o f\u0103r\u0103 efort \u00een \u201efiguri\u201d. Premisele istorice, faptele, compara\u021biile \u2014 prezentarea s-a dovedit a fi o critic\u0103 subtil\u0103 a FOSS. Au fost atinse corzile sus\u021bin\u0103torilor software-ului liber, iar povestirea a trecut treptat \u00een formatul unei mese rotunde cu cei care \u201eau p\u0103strat sc\u00e2nteia\u201d \u0219i care nu sunt indiferen\u021bi fa\u021b\u0103 de situa\u021bie.<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/19c18634d783a0f5c49ebd40c294bce1.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n\u00cen zona de instalare (ocup\u00e2nd c\u00e2teva scaune \u00een ultimele r\u00e2nduri) a prins via\u021b\u0103 mini-proiectul \u201einstaleaz\u0103 FreeDOS pe PentiumMMX\u201d. Cu toate acestea, ma\u0219ina avea doar un HDD IDE de 20GB, f\u0103r\u0103 USB. DVD ROM-ul nu era disponibil.<br \/>\nIvan m-a ajutat s\u0103 \u00een\u021beleg formatul imaginii oficiale FreeDOS.<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Linux Install Fest \u2014 vedere lateral\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/caf45152480b2bb7e2d21f88cf976e6c.jpeg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nApoi a fost un pic de agita\u021bie cu jumperii. Tastatura cu conector DIN s-a dovedit a fi nefunc\u021bional\u0103 \u2014 ambele taste Enter nu reac\u021bionau... M-a salvat hackspace-ul local CADR, de pe rafturile c\u0103ruia am g\u0103sit exact aceea\u0219i tastatur\u0103, func\u021bional\u0103. Din p\u0103cate, timpul fusese pierdut \u0219i \u201etesterele\u201d au reu\u0219it doar s\u0103 \u00eencarce sistemul de instalare de pe HDD. Nu s-a reu\u0219it s\u0103 se g\u00e2ndeasc\u0103 rapid la cum s\u0103 instaleze sistemul pe acela\u0219i HDD \u0219i proiectul va r\u0103m\u00e2ne probabil p\u00e2n\u0103 la urm\u0103torul festival.<\/p>\n<h3>Rezultatul<\/h3>\n<p>\nEvenimentul a fost vizitat de aproximativ o sut\u0103 de persoane. \u00cen ciuda devierii de la regulament \u0219i a problemelor tehnice, oamenilor le-a pl\u0103cut. S-a pus o baz\u0103 pentru o serie de evenimente mai specifice sub formatele \u201eatelier\u201d \u0219i \u201eseminar\u201d \u2014 detaliile sunt \u00eenc\u0103 premature, vom vedea dac\u0103 ini\u021biativa se va men\u021bine.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen organizare au participat aproximativ 10 persoane, coordon\u00e2ndu-se verbal, prin chat.<br \/>\nPreg\u0103tirea a durat 7 zile. Bugetul a fost nul. Promovarea s-a f\u0103cut prin post\u0103ri pe 4 resurse specializate. Comentariile la post\u0103ri pot fi \u00eemp\u0103r\u021bite \u00een dou\u0103 categorii: \u201einstall fest nu este actual\u201d \u0219i \u201eeste grozav c\u0103 astfel de evenimente mai au loc\u201d.<\/p>\n<h3>Mul\u021bumiri<\/h3>\n<p>\nSuportul informa\u021bional de la <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.it52.info\">www.it52.info<\/a><\/noindex> a fost foarte oportun \u2014 un imens respect echipei it52!<\/p>\n<p>Mul\u021bumim NRTC pentru sala excelent\u0103, echipamentul \u0219i suportul \u00een organizarea evenimentului, \u0219i \u00een special respect angaja\u021bilor NRTC!<\/p>\n<p>Mul\u021bumiri vorbitorilor \u0219i tuturor celor care au pus la dispozi\u021bie sistemele, dispozitivele, echipamentele \u0219i au oferit ceai cald \u0219i biscui\u021bi! <\/p>\n<p>Pentru preg\u0103tirea articolului au fost utilizate materiale textuale \u0219i foto de la Innokentiy \u0219i Poptsov Artem.<br \/>\n<br \/>Sursa: <a content=\"nofollow\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/ru\/post\/452570\/\">habr.com<\/a><\/p>","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u041d\u0435\u0441\u043a\u043e\u043b\u044c\u043a\u043e \u0434\u043d\u0435\u0439 \u043d\u0430\u0437\u0430\u0434 \u0432 \u041d\u0438\u0436\u043d\u0435\u043c \u041d\u043e\u0432\u0433\u043e\u0440\u043e\u0434\u0435 \u0441\u043e\u0441\u0442\u043e\u044f\u043b\u043e\u0441\u044c \u043a\u043b\u0430\u0441\u0441\u0438\u0447\u0435\u0441\u043a\u043e\u0435 \u043c\u0435\u0440\u043e\u043f\u0440\u0438\u044f\u0442\u0438\u0435 \u0432\u0440\u0435\u043c\u0451\u043d \u00ab\u043b\u0438\u043c\u0438\u0442\u043d\u043e\u0433\u043e \u0438\u043d\u0442\u0435\u0440\u043d\u0435\u0442\u0430\u00bb \u2014 Linux Install Fest 05.19. \u042d\u0442\u043e\u0442 \u0444\u043e\u0440\u043c\u0430\u0442 \u0441 \u0434\u0430\u0432\u043d\u0438\u0445 \u043f\u043e\u0440 (~2005 \u0433\u043e\u0434) 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