{"id":34941,"date":"2019-10-31T22:01:27","date_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:01:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/ostorozhnyj-pereezd-v-niderlandy-s-zhenoj-i-ipotekoj-chast-1-poisk-raboty\/"},"modified":"2019-10-31T22:01:27","modified_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:01:27","slug":"ostorozhnyj-pereezd-v-niderlandy-s-zhenoj-i-ipotekoj-chast-1-poisk-raboty","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/ro\/blog\/news\/ostorozhnyj-pereezd-v-niderlandy-s-zhenoj-i-ipotekoj-chast-1-poisk-raboty","title":{"rendered":"Mutare prudent\u0103 \u00een Olanda cu so\u021bia \u0219i ipoteca. Partea 1: c\u0103utarea unui loc de munc\u0103","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Pe Habr \u0219i \u00een general \u00een internetul vorbitor de rus\u0103 exist\u0103 destule instruc\u021biuni despre cum s\u0103 te mu\u021bi \u00een Olanda. Eu \u00eensumi am \u00eenv\u0103\u021bat multe dintr-un articol de pe Habr (care, se pare, acum nu mai este vizibil, ascuns \u00een ciorna sa, <noindex>iat\u0103-l<\/noindex>). Dar totu\u0219i voi povesti despre experien\u021ba mea \u00een c\u0103utarea unui loc de munc\u0103 \u0219i mutarea \u00een aceast\u0103 \u021bar\u0103 european\u0103. \u00cemi amintesc c\u0103, atunci c\u00e2nd m\u0103 preg\u0103team s\u0103 trimit CV-uri \u0219i c\u00e2nd deja aveam interviuri, mi-a fost foarte interesant s\u0103 citesc despre experien\u021bele similare ale altor colegi din domeniu.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Mutare prudent\u0103 \u00een Olanda cu so\u021bia \u0219i ipoteca. Partea 1: c\u0103utarea unui loc de munc\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/109223c3c7f2784e9cd4529947cb55b1.jpg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n\u00cen general, dac\u0103 sunte\u021bi interesat de povestea despre cum un programator C++ din regiunea Moscovei \u0219i-a c\u0103utat un loc de munc\u0103 \u00een Europa, de preferin\u021b\u0103 \u00een Marea Britanie, dar a ajuns \u00een Olanda, s-a mutat acolo singur \u0219i \u0219i-a adus so\u021bia, toate acestea cu o ipotec\u0103 neachitat\u0103 \u00een Rusia \u0219i c\u00e2teva aventuri mici \u2014 bun venit mai departe.<br \/>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"habracut\"><\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<h2>Povestea<\/h2>\n<p>\nO scurt\u0103 prezentare a carierei mele, pentru a \u00een\u021belege mai bine ce am \u00eencercat s\u0103 v\u00e2nd angajatorilor str\u0103ini poten\u021biali.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen 2005 am absolvit universitatea din ora\u0219ul meu natal, Saratov, \u0219i am \u00eenceput un program de masterat \u00een Dubna, o localitate din regiunea Moscovei. Pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 studii, lucram ocazional, scriind ceva \u00een C++ (deja \u00eemi este ru\u0219ine s\u0103-mi amintesc). \u00cen trei ani m-am dezam\u0103git de cariera academic\u0103 \u0219i, \u00een 2008, m-am mutat la Moscova. M-am bucurat de un prim loc de munc\u0103 normal (C++, Windows, Linux, un proces de dezvoltare bine pus la punct), dar \u00een 2011 am g\u0103sit unul nou. Tot C++, doar c\u0103 pe Linux \u0219i cu un set de tehnologii mai interesant.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen 2013 am finalizat \u00een sf\u00e2r\u0219it teza de doctorat \u0219i am \u00eendr\u0103znit pentru prima dat\u0103 s\u0103 fac ceva \u00een direc\u021bia str\u0103in\u0103t\u0103\u021bii. Samsung organiza o oarecare t\u00e2rg \u00een Moscova, le-am trimis CV-ul meu. Ca r\u0103spuns, m-au intervievat chiar la telefon. \u00cen englez\u0103! Coreenii m-au impresionat ca fiind complet neglijen\u021bi \u2014 nu aveau nici CV-ul meu, nici prezentarea trimis\u0103 anterior. Dar r\u00e2deau, \u00eentr-un mod natural, r\u00e2deau. M-a ofensat foarte tare, \u0219i nu m-am sup\u0103rat c\u00e2nd mi-au refuzat. Pu\u021bin mai t\u00e2rziu am aflat c\u0103 acest r\u00e2s la coreeni este o expresie a nervozit\u0103\u021bii. Acum prefer s\u0103 cred c\u0103 \u0219i acel coreean era stresat.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Mutare prudent\u0103 \u00een Olanda cu so\u021bia \u0219i ipoteca. Partea 1: c\u0103utarea unui loc de munc\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/9e4036d51271ae24fa9a0e3bc653606c.jpg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nAtunci am renun\u021bat la ideea str\u0103in\u0103t\u0103\u021bii \u0219i mi-am schimbat locul de munc\u0103. C++, Linux, Windows, am scris pu\u021bin chiar \u0219i pentru microcontrolere \u00een C. \u00cen 2014 am luat un credit ipotecar \u0219i m-am mutat \u00een apropierea Moscovei. \u00cen 2015 am fost concediat (mul\u021bi au fost concedia\u021bi atunci), am g\u0103sit repede un alt loc de munc\u0103. Mi-am dat seama c\u0103 am gre\u0219it, am \u00eenceput din nou c\u0103ut\u0103rile, iar \u00een aceea\u0219i 2015 am ajuns \u00eentr-unul dintre cele mai bune locuri din Moscova, dar \u0219i din Rusia. Cea mai bun\u0103 slujb\u0103 din cariera mea, o gr\u0103mad\u0103 de noi tehnologii pentru mine, cre\u0219teri anuale de salarii \u0219i o echip\u0103 excelent\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Aici ar fi momentul s\u0103 m\u0103 lini\u0219tesc, nu-i a\u0219a? Dar nu a fost a\u0219a. Nu exist\u0103 un motiv anume care s\u0103 m\u0103 fi determinat s\u0103 decid s\u0103 m\u0103 mut (\u00eenc\u0103 evit cuv\u00e2ntul \u201eemigrare\u201d). Aici este un pic din toate: \u0219i dorin\u021ba de a m\u0103 testa (oare voi putea s\u0103 comunic constant \u00een englez\u0103?), \u0219i plictiseala vie\u021bii lini\u0219tite (s\u0103 ies din zona de confort), \u0219i nesiguran\u021ba \u00een viitorul rus (economic \u0219i social). Oricum, \u00eencep\u00e2nd din 2017, pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 dorin\u021ba, am \u00eenceput s\u0103 fac ac\u021biuni active.<\/p>\n<h2>C\u0103utarea unui loc de munc\u0103<\/h2>\n<p>\nAm \u00eenceput prin a vrea s\u0103 aflu \u00een detaliu despre un loc de munc\u0103 care mi-a fost \u00een vederea timp de 4 ani, dac\u0103 nu cumva 6 - \u201ese caut\u0103 programator C++ \u00eentr-o companie ruso-vietnamese \u00een Hanoi\u201d. Am dep\u0103\u0219it introversia \u0219i am discutat \u00een re\u021belele sociale cu persoane necunoscute - ru\u0219i care lucrau \u00een acea companie. A devenit rapid clar c\u0103 astfel de discu\u021bii sunt foarte utile, iar \u00een Vietnam nu este nimic de f\u0103cut. OK, c\u0103ut\u0103m mai departe.<\/p>\n<p>Singura limb\u0103 str\u0103in\u0103 pe care o cunosc este engleza. Citesc, e clar. De asemenea, \u00eencerc s\u0103 m\u0103 uit la filme \u0219i seriale \u00een original (cu subtitr\u0103ri, f\u0103r\u0103 ele nu este confortabil). Astfel, la \u00eenceput am decis s\u0103 m\u0103 limitez la \u021b\u0103rile europene vorbitoare de englez\u0103. Pentru c\u0103 nu sunt preg\u0103tit s\u0103 plec dincolo de Europa, nici atunci, nici acum (\u0219i p\u0103rin\u021bii nu \u00eemb\u0103tr\u00e2nesc, \u0219i uneori trebuie s\u0103 am grij\u0103 de apartament). Exist\u0103 exact trei \u021b\u0103ri vorbitoare de englez\u0103 \u00een Europa - Regatul Unit, Irlanda \u0219i Malta. Ce s\u0103 aleg? Sigur, Londra!<\/p>\n<h3>Bloomberg L.P.<\/h3>\n<p>\nMi-am actualizat\/creat profiluri pe LinkedIn, Glassdoor, Monster \u0219i StackOverflow, am redactat din nou CV-ul, l-am tradus \u00een englez\u0103. Am \u00eenceput s\u0103 caut locuri de munc\u0103 \u0219i am dat peste Bloomberg. Mi-am amintit c\u0103 cu un an sau doi \u00eenainte, cineva mi-a trimis un pliant de la Bloomberg, \u0219i totul era at\u00e2t de frumos descris, inclusiv ajutoarele pentru relocare, c\u0103 am decis - voi \u00eencerca s\u0103 ajung acolo.<\/p>\n<p>Nu am avut timp s\u0103 trimit nimic, c\u00e2nd \u00een mai 2017 m-a contactat un recrutator din Londra. Mi-a propus o ofert\u0103 de munc\u0103 \u00eentr-un start-up din domeniul financiar, suger\u00e2nd s\u0103 discut\u0103m la telefon. \u00cen ziua \u0219i ora stabilite, m-a sunat pe num\u0103rul meu rus \u0219i, vorbind unul cu altul, mi-a spus c\u0103 ar fi bine s\u0103 \u00eencerci la Bloomberg, deoarece au nevoie de oameni. Ce s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat cu start-upul financiar? A, acolo nu mai aveau nevoie, sau ceva de genul acesta. Ei bine, de fapt, la Bloomberg aveam nevoie s\u0103 ajung.<\/p>\n<p>Faptul c\u0103 am reu\u0219it s\u0103 vorbesc cu un englez adev\u0103rat (da, acesta era un englez adev\u0103rat), iar eu l-am \u00een\u021beles \u0219i el m-a \u00een\u021beles pe mine, m-a inspirat. M-am \u00eenscris unde trebuia, am trimis CV-ul pentru o anumit\u0103 ofert\u0103, men\u021bion\u00e2nd c\u0103 m-a g\u0103sit \u0219i m-a adus acest recrutator. Mi s-a programat primul interviu video dup\u0103 c\u00e2teva s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni. Recrutatorul mi-a furnizat materiale pentru preg\u0103tire, iar eu am c\u0103utat recenziile de pe Glassdoor singur. <\/p>\n<p>M-a intervievat un indian, a durat aproximativ o or\u0103. \u00centreb\u0103rile au fost \u00een mare parte asem\u0103n\u0103toare (sau chiar identice) cu cele pe care deja le studiasem. Au fost at\u00e2t teorie, c\u00e2t \u0219i scriere efectiv\u0103 de cod. Ceea ce m-a bucurat cel mai mult la final - am reu\u0219it s\u0103 port un dialog, \u00eel \u00een\u021belegeam pe indian. A fost programat un al doilea interviu video \u00een 1,5 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni. De data aceasta, erau doi intervievatori, unul dintre ei fiind vizibil vorbitor de limba rus\u0103. Nu doar c\u0103 rezolvam problemele, ci \u0219i puneam \u00eentreb\u0103rile preg\u0103tite, \u00eentreb\u00e2nd despre proiecte. Dup\u0103 o or\u0103 de discu\u021bii, mi-au spus c\u0103 urmeaz\u0103 o pauz\u0103 de 5 minute, iar apoi va veni urm\u0103toarea echip\u0103 de intervievatori. Nu m\u0103 a\u0219teptam la asta, dar, desigur, nu am avut obiec\u021bii. \u0218i din nou: ei \u00eemi d\u0103deau probleme, eu le puneam \u00eentreb\u0103ri. \u00cen total, dou\u0103 ore de interviu.<\/p>\n<p>Dar am fost invitat la interviul final (cum mi-a explicat recrutatorul) \u00een Londra! Mi-au dat o scrisoare de invita\u021bie, cu care am mers la centru de vize \u0219i mi-am ob\u021binut viza pentru UK pe cheltuiala mea. Biletele \u0219i hotelul au fost pl\u0103tite de partea invitat\u0103. La mijlocul lunii iulie, am plecat spre Londra.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Mutare prudent\u0103 \u00een Olanda cu so\u021bia \u0219i ipoteca. Partea 1: c\u0103utarea unui loc de munc\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/54eab6b3e0d9379f1fae9da04b48e52f.jpg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nRecrutorul m-a \u00eent\u00e2lnit cu 20 de minute \u00eenainte de interviu, mi-a dat ultimele instruc\u021biuni \u0219i sfaturi. M-am a\u0219teptat s\u0103 fiu \u00eentrebat timp de \u0219ase ore (a\u0219a spuneau recenziile pe Glassdoor), dar a fost doar o discu\u021bie de o or\u0103 cu doi tehnici. Am rezolvat o singur\u0103 problem\u0103, iar restul timpului m-au \u00eentrebat despre experien\u021ba mea, iar eu am \u00eentrebat despre proiectul lor. Apoi a fost o jum\u0103tate de or\u0103 cu HR, care era deja interesat\u0103 de motiva\u021bia mea, iar eu aveam preg\u0103tite c\u00e2teva r\u0103spunsuri. La final, mi s-a spus c\u0103, deoarece managerul respectiv nu era disponibil, va lua leg\u0103tura cu mine mai t\u00e2rziu \u2014 \u00een aproximativ o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 sau dou\u0103. Restul zilei am petrecut-o plimb\u00e2ndu-m\u0103 prin Londra pentru pl\u0103cerea mea.<\/p>\n<p>Am fost sigur c\u0103 am f\u0103cut o impresie bun\u0103 \u0219i c\u0103 totul a decurs bine. A\u0219adar, imediat ce m-am \u00eentors la Moscova, m-am \u00eenscris pentru cel mai apropiat examen IELTS (necesar pentru viza de munc\u0103 britanic\u0103). Am exersat timp de dou\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni la scrierea eseurilor \u0219i am ob\u021binut 7.5 puncte. Acest scor nu ar fi fost suficient pentru o viz\u0103 de studii, dar pentru mine \u2014 f\u0103r\u0103 practic\u0103 lingvistic\u0103, dup\u0103 doar dou\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni de preg\u0103tire \u2014 a fost pur \u0219i simplu minunat. Totu\u0219i, cur\u00e2nd a sunat recrutatorul din Londra \u0219i mi-a spus c\u0103 Bloomberg nu m\u0103 angajeaz\u0103. \u201eNu au v\u0103zut o motiva\u021bie suficient\u0103.\u201d Ei bine, bine, c\u0103ut\u0103m mai departe.<\/p>\n<h3>Amazon<\/h3>\n<p>\nC\u00e2nd m\u0103 preg\u0103team s\u0103 merg \u00een Londra, am fost contactat de recrutori de la Amazon care m-au invitat s\u0103 particip la evenimentul lor de angajare \u00een Oslo. De fapt, ei angajeaz\u0103 oameni pentru a lucra \u00een Vancouver, dar de data aceasta interviurile au loc \u00een Oslo. Nu am nevoie de Canad\u00e1, iar Amazon, conform recenzilor, nu este cel mai pl\u0103cut loc de munc\u0103, dar am acceptat. Am decis s\u0103 c\u00e2\u0219tig experien\u021b\u0103, dac\u0103 a ap\u0103rut ocazia.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Mutare prudent\u0103 \u00een Olanda cu so\u021bia \u0219i ipoteca. Partea 1: c\u0103utarea unui loc de munc\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/aa360d41c13848df112d1ec70846b931.jpg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nLa \u00eenceput, un test online \u2014 dou\u0103 probleme simple. Apoi, invita\u021bia propriu-zis\u0103 \u00een Oslo. Viza norvegian\u0103 este de c\u00e2teva ori mai ieftin\u0103 dec\u00e2t cea britanic\u0103 \u0219i se ob\u021bine de dou\u0103 ori mai repede. De data aceasta, am pl\u0103tit totul din propriul buzunar, Amazon a promis s\u0103 \u00eemi deconteze ulterior. Oslo m-a surprins prin pre\u021buri mari, num\u0103rul de ma\u0219ini electrice \u0219i impresia general\u0103 de sat mare. Interviul a constat \u00een patru etape, fiecare de c\u00e2te o or\u0103. La fiecare etap\u0103 \u2014 unul sau doi intervievatori, o discu\u021bie despre experien\u021ba mea, o sarcin\u0103 din partea lor, \u00eentreb\u0103ri din partea mea. Nu am str\u0103lucit \u0219i dup\u0103 c\u00e2teva zile am primit un refuz a\u0219teptat. <\/p>\n<p>Din c\u0103l\u0103toria mea \u00een Norvegia am tras c\u00e2teva concluzii noi:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>nu ar trebui s\u0103 \u00eencerci s\u0103 rezolvi o problem\u0103 folosind polimorfismul static, dac\u0103 e\u0219ti intervievat de un inginer care scrie \u00een Java (\u0219i, se pare, doar \u00een Java).<\/li>\n<li>dac\u0103 a\u0219tepta\u021bi o compensa\u021bie pentru cheltuieli \u00een dolari, indica\u021bi un cont \u00een dolari. Banca mea nu a acceptat transferul \u00een dolari c\u0103tre un cont \u00een ruble.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><\/p>\n<h3>Regatul Unit \u0219i Irlanda<\/h3>\n<p>\nM-am \u00eenregistrat \u0219i pe c\u00e2teva site-uri britanice cu oferte de munc\u0103 tehnice. Ah, ce salarii erau acolo! Dar nu am primit r\u0103spuns la solicit\u0103rile mele pe aceste site-uri, iar CV-ul meu nu a fost vizualizat de nimeni. Totu\u0219i, anumite recrutoare britanice m-au g\u0103sit, au vorbit cu mine, mi-au ar\u0103tat c\u00e2teva oferte \u0219i chiar mi-au trimis CV-ul la angajatori. \u00cen proces, m-au convins c\u0103 un salariu de 60.000 de lire pe an este mult \u0219i c\u0103 nimeni nu m\u0103 va angaja cu aceste cerin\u021be. De asemenea, s-a dovedit c\u0103, dup\u0103 CV, sunt un job hopper, deoarece am schimbat 4 locuri de munc\u0103 \u00een 6 ani, c\u00e2nd ar trebui s\u0103 petrec cel pu\u021bin 2 ani la fiecare.<\/p>\n<p>Nu am regretat c\u0103 am cheltuit 50 de lire \u0219i mi-am trimis CV-ul spre revizuire unor profesioni\u0219ti. Profesionistul mi-a oferit un rezultat oarecare, am f\u0103cut c\u00e2teva observa\u021bii, iar el a corectat. Pe urm\u0103, mi s-au cerut \u00eenc\u0103 25 de lire pentru a scrie o scrisoare de inten\u021bie, dar, nefiind impresionat de rezultatul lor anterior, am refuzat. CV-ul l-am folosit ulterior, dar eficien\u021ba sa nu s-a schimbat. A\u0219a c\u0103 tind s\u0103 cred c\u0103 astfel de servicii sunt o \u00een\u0219el\u0103torie pentru candida\u021bii naivi \u0219i nesiguri.<\/p>\n<p>Apropo, recrutorii britanici \u0219i irlandezi au un obicei prost de a suna f\u0103r\u0103 avertisment. Un apel te poate surprinde oriunde - \u00een metrou, la pr\u00e2nz \u00eentr-o cantin\u0103 zgomotoas\u0103, \u00een toalet\u0103, p\u00e2n\u0103 la urm\u0103. Doar dac\u0103 nu r\u0103spunzi, ei \u00ee\u021bi scriu un mesaj \u00eentreb\u00e2nd \u201eC\u00e2nd ar fi convenabil s\u0103 discut\u0103m?\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Da, am \u00eenceput s\u0103 trimit CV-uri \u0219i \u00een Irlanda. Reac\u021bia a fost foarte slab\u0103 - 2 apeluri f\u0103r\u0103 rezultate \u0219i un mesaj politicos de refuz \u00een r\u0103spuns la o duzin\u0103 sau dou\u0103 de CV-uri trimise. Am avut impresia c\u0103 \u00een toat\u0103 Irlanda exist\u0103 8-10 agen\u021bii de recrutare \u0219i le-am scris m\u0103car o dat\u0103 la fiecare.<\/p>\n<h3>Suedia<\/h3>\n<p>\nAtunci am decis c\u0103 este timpul s\u0103 extind geografia c\u0103ut\u0103rilor. Unde se vorbe\u0219te bine engleza? \u00cen Suedia \u0219i \u00een Olanda. Nu am fost niciodat\u0103 \u00een Olanda, dar \u00een Suedia am fost. \u021aara nu m-a impresionat, dar merita s\u0103 \u00eencerc. Totu\u0219i, num\u0103rul de oferte de munc\u0103 \u00een Suedia \u00een domeniul meu a fost chiar mai mic dec\u00e2t \u00een Irlanda. \u00cen final, am avut un interviu video cu HR de la Spotify, dar nu am avansat mai departe, \u0219i o coresponden\u021b\u0103 scurt\u0103 cu Flightradar24. Ace\u0219tia au disp\u0103rut discret c\u00e2nd au aflat c\u0103 nu inten\u021bionez s\u0103 lucrez pentru ei de la distan\u021b\u0103 cu perspectiva de a m\u0103 reloca \u00een Stockholm.<\/p>\n<h3>Olanda<\/h3>\n<p>\nA venit momentul s\u0103 m\u0103 apuc de Olanda. La \u00eenceput, eu \u0219i so\u021bia am mers c\u00e2teva zile la Amsterdam \u2014 s\u0103 vedem cum este acolo. \u00centreg centrul istoric era plin de fum de iarb\u0103, dar \u00een general am decis c\u0103 \u021bara este decent\u0103 \u0219i se poate tr\u0103i. Astfel, am \u00eenceput s\u0103 caut oferte de munc\u0103 \u00een Olanda, f\u0103r\u0103 a uita de Londra. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Mutare prudent\u0103 \u00een Olanda cu so\u021bia \u0219i ipoteca. Partea 1: c\u0103utarea unui loc de munc\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/3d7a8790fca78726cea19174ebcc0f47.jpg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nComparativ cu Moscova sau Londra, nu erau multe oferte, dar mai multe dec\u00e2t \u00een Suedia. Acolo unde am aplicat, \u00een unele cazuri am fost refuzat imediat, \u00een alte cazuri dup\u0103 primul test online, \u00een alte cazuri dup\u0103 primul interviu cu HR (Booking.com, de exemplu, a fost unul dintre cele mai ciudate interviuri, nu \u00een\u021beleg de ce anume voiau de la mine \u0219i, \u00een general), \u0219i \u00een alte locuri dup\u0103 dou\u0103 interviuri video, iar \u00eentr-un loc dup\u0103 finalizarea unei sarcini de test.<\/p>\n<p>Structura interviurilor din companiile olandeze este diferit\u0103 de cea de la Bloomberg sau Amazon. De obicei, totul \u00eencepe cu un test online, unde trebuie s\u0103 rezolvi c\u00e2teva (de la 2 la 5) probleme tehnice \u00een c\u00e2teva ore. Apoi, urmeaz\u0103 un prim interviu de familiarizare (prin telefon sau Skype) cu speciali\u0219ti tehnici, o discu\u021bie despre experien\u021b\u0103, proiecte, \u00eentreb\u0103ri de tipul \u201eCe ai face \u00een cazul acesta?\u201d. Apoi urmeaz\u0103 fie un al doilea interviu video cu cineva de rang superior (arhitect, team lead sau manager), fie acela\u0219i interviu, dar deja \u00een birou, fa\u021b\u0103 \u00een fa\u021b\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Acestea sunt etapele pe care le-am parcurs cu compania de la care am primit \u00een cele din urm\u0103 oferta. \u00cen decembrie 2017, am rezolvat 3 probleme pe codility.com. La acea vreme, \u0219tiam solu\u021biile acestor probleme aproape pe de rost, a\u0219a c\u0103 nu au cauzat dificult\u0103\u021bi. Vreau s\u0103 subliniez c\u0103 partea tehnic\u0103 este cam aceea\u0219i peste tot (cu excep\u021bia Facebook, Google \u0219i, probabil, Bloomberg \u2013 vezi mai jos). Dup\u0103 o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103, am avut un interviu telefonic, care a durat o or\u0103 \u00een loc de cele promise 15 minute. \u00cen tot acest timp, am stat \u00eentr-un col\u021b al open space-ului meu, \u00eencerc\u00e2nd s\u0103 nu par suspect (da, vorbind \u00een englez\u0103). \u00cenc\u0103 o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 mai t\u00e2rziu, a trebuit s\u0103 ob\u021bin de la HR un r\u0103spuns, care s-a dovedit a fi pozitiv, \u0219i am fost invitat la un interviu on-site \u00een Eindhoven (biletul de avion \u0219i cazarea au fost acoperite). <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Mutare prudent\u0103 \u00een Olanda cu so\u021bia \u0219i ipoteca. Partea 1: c\u0103utarea unui loc de munc\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/60f97037169921e9290d334d73207dc8.jpg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nAm ajuns \u00een Eindhoven cu o zi \u00eenainte de interviu \u0219i am reu\u0219it s\u0103 m\u0103 plimb prin ora\u0219. M-a surprins cur\u0103\u021benia \u0219i vremea cald\u0103: \u00een ianuarie era cam ca \u00eentr-o zi cald\u0103 de octombrie \u00een Moscova \u0219i regiunea Moscovei. Interviul propriu-zis a fost format din trei etape de c\u00e2te o or\u0103, cu c\u00e2te 2 intervievatori la fiecare. Subiectele de discu\u021bie au fost experien\u021ba, interesele, motiva\u021bia \u0219i r\u0103spunsurile la \u00eentreb\u0103rile mele. Partea pur tehnic\u0103 s-a \u00eencheiat cu un test online. Unul dintre intervievatori, se pare, a decis s\u0103 \u00eencerce o metod\u0103 popular\u0103 \u2013 un pr\u00e2nz comun. Sfaturile mele sunt c\u0103, dac\u0103 ave\u021bi ocazia s\u0103 evita\u021bi a\u0219a ceva, profita\u021bi de ea; iar dac\u0103 voi sunte\u021bi cei care intervieveaz\u0103, v\u0103 rog s\u0103 nu face\u021bi a\u0219a ceva. Zgomot, agita\u021bie, sunetul aparatelor, \u00eentr-un final abia auzeam persoana aflat\u0103 la un metru de mine. Dar, \u00een general, compania \u0219i oamenii mi-au pl\u0103cut.<\/p>\n<p>Dup\u0103 c\u00e2teva s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni, a trebuit s\u0103-l insist pe HR pentru a primi feedback. A fost din nou pozitiv \u0219i doar acum am \u00eenceput s\u0103 discut\u0103m despre bani. M-au \u00eentrebat c\u00e2t \u00eemi doresc \u0219i mi-au oferit un salariu fix \u0219i un bonus anual, \u00een func\u021bie de succesul meu personal, al departamentului meu \u0219i al companiei \u00een ansamblu. \u00cen total, suma era pu\u021bin mai mic\u0103 dec\u00e2t cerusem. Am amintit diverse articole despre cum s\u0103 ob\u021bii un salariu mai mare \u0219i am decis s\u0103 negociez, de\u0219i articolele se refereau \u00een principal la realitatea american\u0103. Am ob\u021binut c\u00e2teva mii \u00een plus \u0219i la sf\u00e2r\u0219itul lunii ianuarie 2018, dup\u0103 c\u00e2teva g\u00e2nduri (vezi mai jos), am acceptat oferta.<\/p>\n<h3>Yelp<\/h3>\n<p>\nPrin octombrie 2017 am primit \u00een sf\u00e2r\u0219it un r\u0103spuns pozitiv din Londra. Era vorba despre compania american\u0103 Yelp, care c\u0103uta ingineri pentru biroul s\u0103u din Londra. Primul lucru pe care mi l-au trimis a fost un link c\u0103tre un test scurt (15 minute, nu 2 ore!) pe <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hackerrank.com\">www.hackerrank.com<\/a><\/noindex>. Dup\u0103 test, au urmat, cu o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 sau o lun\u0103 diferen\u021b\u0103, trei interviuri prin Skype. Chiar dac\u0103 nu am trecut mai departe, acelea au fost unele dintre cele mai bune interviuri pentru mine. Discu\u021biile au fost relaxate, incluz\u00e2nd at\u00e2t teorie, c\u00e2t \u0219i practic\u0103, \u0219i conversa\u021bii despre via\u021b\u0103 \u0219i experien\u021b\u0103. To\u021bi cei trei intervievatori erau americani, \u00eei \u00een\u021belegeam f\u0103r\u0103 nicio problem\u0103. Nu doar c\u0103 mi-au r\u0103spuns detaliat la \u00eentreb\u0103ri, dar au \u00eemp\u0103rt\u0103\u0219it cu adev\u0103rat ceea ce fac \u0219i cum se desf\u0103\u0219oar\u0103 activitatea lor. Nu am putut rezista s\u0103 \u00eentreb dac\u0103 sunt cumva preg\u0103ti\u021bi special pentru astfel de interviuri. Mi-au spus c\u0103 nu, pur \u0219i simplu angajeaz\u0103 voluntari. \u00cen general, acum am un etalon pentru interviurile video\/Skype.<\/p>\n<h3>Facebook \u0219i Google<\/h3>\n<p>\nExperien\u021ba mea cu aceste companii bine cunoscute o voi descrie \u00eentr-o singur\u0103 sec\u021biune, nu doar pentru c\u0103 procesele lor sunt foarte asem\u0103n\u0103toare, ci \u0219i pentru c\u0103 am fost intervievat de ele practic \u00een aceea\u0219i perioad\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Prin mijlocul lui noiembrie, un recrutor de la biroul din Londra al Facebook m-a contactat. A fost nea\u0219teptat, dar explicabil \u2014 \u00eemi trimisesem CV-ul \u00een iulie. O s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 dup\u0103 primul mesaj, am vorbit la telefon cu recrutorul, care mi-a recomandat s\u0103 m\u0103 preg\u0103tesc temeinic pentru primul interviu pe Skype. Am luat 3 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni pentru preg\u0103tire, program\u00e2nd interviul pentru mijlocul lui decembrie.<\/p>\n<p>Apoi, dup\u0103 c\u00e2teva zile, m-a contactat un recrutor de la Google! De\u0219i nu trimisesem nimic la Google. Faptul c\u0103 o astfel de companie m-a g\u0103sit, mi-a ridicat mult stima de sine. Totu\u0219i, aceasta a trecut repede. \u00cen\u021beleg c\u0103 acest gigant \u00ee\u0219i poate permite s\u0103 colinde \u00eentreaga lume \u00een c\u0103utarea angaja\u021bilor potrivi\u021bi. \u00cen general, cu Google schema este aceea\u0219i: mai \u00eent\u00e2i o discu\u021bie de evaluare cu HR (la mine, brusc m-a \u00eentrebat despre complexitatea unui anumit algoritm de sortare \u00een cazul mediu \u0219i cel mai r\u0103u), apoi HR ofer\u0103 recomand\u0103ri pentru preg\u0103tirea interviului cu speciali\u0219ti tehnici, interviul propriu-zis av\u00e2nd loc dup\u0103 c\u00e2teva s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni.<\/p>\n<p>Deci, aveam pe m\u00e2ini liste cu linkuri c\u0103tre articole\/video\/alte resurse de la Facebook \u0219i Google, care se suprapuneau \u00een mare m\u0103sur\u0103. De exemplu, cartea \u201eCracking the Coding Interview\u201d, site-uri <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.geeksforgeeks.org\/\">www.geeksforgeeks.org<\/a><\/noindex>, <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hackerrank.com\/\">www.hackerrank.com<\/a><\/noindex>, <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/leetcode.com\/\">leetcode.com<\/a><\/noindex> \u0219i <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.interviewbit.com\/\">www.interviewbit.com<\/a><\/noindex>. Cunosc cartea de mult timp \u0219i, dup\u0103 p\u0103rerea mea, nu mai este foarte relevant\u0103. Acum \u00eentreb\u0103rile la interviuri sunt mai dificile \u0219i mai interesante. Am rezolvat probleme pe HackerRank \u00eenc\u0103 din perioada preg\u0103tirii pentru Bloomberg. Dar <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.interviewbit.com\/\">www.interviewbit.com<\/a><\/noindex> s-a dovedit a fi o descoperire foarte util\u0103 pentru mine \u2014 multe dintre cele enumerate acolo mi-au ap\u0103rut \u00een interviuri reale.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Mutare prudent\u0103 \u00een Olanda cu so\u021bia \u0219i ipoteca. Partea 1: c\u0103utarea unui loc de munc\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/ba241801c82387cc8c7cfdad9b9e0f18.jpg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n\u00cen prima jum\u0103tate a lunii decembrie 2017, cu o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 \u00eentre ele, am avut interviuri video cu Facebook \u0219i Google. Fiecare a durat 45 de minute, fiecare a avut o sarcin\u0103 tehnic\u0103 simpl\u0103, iar am\u00e2ndoi intervievatorii (unul \u2014 britanic, cel\u0103lalt \u2014 elve\u021bian) au fost politico\u0219i, optimisti \u0219i au purtat o conversa\u021bie relaxat\u0103. Amuzant este c\u0103 pentru Facebook am scris cod \u00een <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/coderpad.io\/\">coderpad.io<\/a><\/noindex>, iar pentru Google \u2014 \u00een Google Docs. \u0218i \u00eenainte de fiecare dintre aceste interviuri m-am g\u00e2ndit: \u201eDoar o or\u0103 de ru\u0219ine \u0219i m\u0103 voi ocupa de alte op\u021biuni mai promi\u021b\u0103toare\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Dar s-a dovedit c\u0103 am trecut cu succes acest etap\u0103 \u00een ambele cazuri, iar ambele companii m\u0103 invit\u0103 la Londra pentru interviuri fa\u021b\u0103 \u00een fa\u021b\u0103. Am primit 2 scrisori de invita\u021bie pentru centrul de vize \u0219i, ini\u021bial, m-am g\u00e2ndit chiar s\u0103 combin totul \u00eentr-o singur\u0103 c\u0103l\u0103torie. Dar am decis s\u0103 nu m\u0103 complic, mai ales c\u0103 Marea Britanie ofer\u0103 o viz\u0103 multipl\u0103 direct pentru \u0219ase luni. \u00cen cele din urm\u0103, la \u00eenceputul lunii februarie 2018, am zburat de dou\u0103 ori la Londra, cu o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 \u00eentre ele. Facebook a pl\u0103tit zborul \u0219i o noapte la hotel, a\u0219a c\u0103 m-am \u00eentors noaptea. Google \u2014 zborul \u0219i dou\u0103 nop\u021bi la hotel. De fapt, Google rezolv\u0103 problemele organiza\u021bionale la un nivel \u00eenalt \u2014 rapid \u0219i clar. La acel moment, aveam deja cu ce s\u0103 compar.<\/p>\n<p>Interviurile la birou s-au desf\u0103\u0219urat conform aceluia\u0219i scenariu (birourile sunt \u0219i ele situate aproape unele de altele). 5 runde de c\u00e2te 45 de minute, c\u00e2te un intervievator pe rund\u0103. O or\u0103 sau cam at\u00e2t pentru pr\u00e2nz. Pr\u00e2nzul este oferit gratuit, iar pe toat\u0103 durata pauzei de pr\u00e2nz se furnizeaz\u0103 un \u201eghid\u201d \u2014 cineva din r\u00e2ndul inginerilor mai pu\u021bin seniori, care arat\u0103 cum se folose\u0219te cantina, face un tur al biroului \u0219i, \u00een general, \u00eentre\u021bine o conversa\u021bie. La ghidul meu de la Google, am \u00eentrebat \u00een treac\u0103t c\u00e2t este durata medie de munc\u0103 pentru un programator. C\u0103ci, la noi \u00een Rusia, 2 ani sunt considera\u021bi normali, iar aici, la voi, te consider\u0103 job hopper. El a r\u0103spuns c\u0103 la Google, primii 2 ani, angaja\u021bii doar \u00eencep s\u0103 \u00een\u021beleag\u0103 cum trebuie s\u0103 fac\u0103 lucrurile, iar beneficiile reale ale angajatului \u00eencep s\u0103 apar\u0103 dup\u0103 aproximativ 5 ani. Nu este chiar un r\u0103spuns la \u00eentrebarea mea, dar este clar c\u0103 cifrele sunt diferite (\u0219i se leag\u0103 foarte pu\u021bin cu <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/hype.ru\/@id20\/sredniy-srok-raboty-specialistov-v-krupneyshih-it-kompaniyah-olvnskwo\">ultimele date<\/a><\/noindex>).<\/p>\n<p>Apropo, nu un inginer, ci chiar mai mul\u021bi au spus c\u0103 s-au mutat la biroul din Londra din California. La \u00eentrebarea mea \u201eDe ce?\u201d mi-au explicat c\u0103 via\u021ba \u00een Valea Siliconului, \u00een afara muncii, este plictisitoare \u0219i monoton\u0103, \u00een timp ce \u00een Londra sunt teatre, galerii de art\u0103 \u0219i, \u00een general, civiliza\u021bie.<\/p>\n<p>\u00centreb\u0103rile \u00een toate rundele sunt exact a\u0219a cum sunt prezentate pe <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.interviewbit.com\/\">www.interviewbit.com<\/a><\/noindex> \u0219i sute de alte site-uri\/video\/bloguri. Ai op\u021biunea de a scrie codul pe tabl\u0103 sau pe laptop. Am \u00eencercat \u0219i a\u0219a, \u0219i pe cealalt\u0103 parte, \u0219i am ales tabla. Somehow, tabla \u00ee\u021bi d\u0103 o stare mai confortabil\u0103 pentru a-\u021bi exprima g\u00e2ndurile. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Mutare prudent\u0103 \u00een Olanda cu so\u021bia \u0219i ipoteca. Partea 1: c\u0103utarea unui loc de munc\u0103\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/bf63d5f7fcad3368fabcd8ec8d8cfe08.jpg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nLa Facebook am performat mult mai bine dec\u00e2t la Google. Poate c\u0103 oboseala general\u0103 \u0219i indiferen\u021ba acumulat\u0103 \u2014 cu c\u00e2teva zile \u00eenainte de aceste vizite am primit \u0219i am acceptat o ofert\u0103 din Olanda, evalu\u00e2nd pesimist \u0219ansele mele. Nu regret. \u00cen plus, la Google, unul dintre intervievatori avea un accent francez extrem de puternic. A fost groaznic. Practic nu \u00een\u021belegeam niciun cuv\u00e2nt, tot timpul \u00eentreb\u00e2nd din nou \u0219i, cu siguran\u021b\u0103, am l\u0103sat impresia unui idiot complet.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen cele din urm\u0103, Google mi-a refuzat rapid, iar Facebook, dup\u0103 trei s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni, a dorit s\u0103 fac\u0103 un alt interviu (pe Skype), motiv\u00e2nd c\u0103 nu au reu\u0219it s\u0103 \u00een\u021beleag\u0103 c\u00e2t de potrivit sunt exact pentru rolul de Senior Engineer. Aici m-a sup\u0103rat pu\u021bin, ca s\u0103 fiu sincer. Ultimele 4 luni nu am f\u0103cut altceva dec\u00e2t s\u0103 particip la interviuri \u0219i s\u0103 m\u0103 preg\u0103tesc pentru interviuri, \u0219i acum din nou?! Am mul\u021bumit politicos \u0219i am refuzat. <\/p>\n<h2>Concluzie<\/h2>\n<p>\nAm considerat oferta unei companii nu foarte cunoscute din Olanda ca un s\u0103get\u0103tor \u00een m\u00e2n\u0103. Repet, nu \u00eemi pare r\u0103u. Rela\u021biile Rusiei cu Regatul Unit s-au deteriorat semnificativ de atunci, iar \u00een Olanda nu doar eu am ob\u021binut permisiunea de munc\u0103, ci \u0219i so\u021bia. Oricum, despre asta mai t\u00e2rziu.<\/p>\n<p>Nara\u021biunea devine brusc lung\u0103, a\u0219a c\u0103 m\u0103 voi opri aici. 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