{"id":35128,"date":"2019-10-31T22:02:28","date_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:02:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/comodo-otzyvaet-sertifikaty-bez-prichiny\/"},"modified":"2019-10-31T22:02:28","modified_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:02:28","slug":"comodo-otzyvaet-sertifikaty-bez-prichiny","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/ro\/blog\/administrirovanie\/comodo-otzyvaet-sertifikaty-bez-prichiny","title":{"rendered":"Comodo retrage certificate f\u0103r\u0103 motiv","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A\u021bi putea imagina vreodat\u0103 c\u0103 o companie mare ar putea \u00een\u0219ela clien\u021bii s\u0103i, mai ales dac\u0103 aceasta se prezint\u0103 ca un garant al securit\u0103\u021bii? Nici eu nu am putut p\u00e2n\u0103 nu demult. Acest articol este un avertisment s\u0103 v\u0103 g\u00e2ndi\u021bi de zece ori \u00eenainte de a cump\u0103ra un certificat pentru semn\u0103tura codului de la Comodo.<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"habracut\"><\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<p>\u00cen calitate de administrator de sistem, creez diverse programe utile pe care le folosesc activ \u00een munca mea, \u0219i, \u00een acela\u0219i timp, le pun gratuit la dispozi\u021bia celor interesa\u021bi. Acum trei ani, a devenit necesar s\u0103 semnez programele, altfel, nu to\u021bi clien\u021bii \u0219i utilizatorii mei le puteau desc\u0103rca f\u0103r\u0103 probleme doar pentru c\u0103 nu erau semnate. Semn\u0103tura este deja o practic\u0103 normal\u0103 \u0219i nu conteaz\u0103 c\u00e2t de sigur este programul, dar dac\u0103 nu este semnat, va atrage cu siguran\u021b\u0103 o aten\u021bie crescut\u0103:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Browserul colecteaz\u0103 statistici despre c\u00e2t de des este desc\u0103rcat un fi\u0219ier, iar c\u00e2nd acesta nu este semnat, la \u00eenceput el poate fi chiar blocat \u201ede precau\u021bie\u201d \u0219i poate necesita confirmarea explicit\u0103 a utilizatorului pentru salvare. Algoritmii sunt diferi\u021bi, uneori un domeniu este considerat de \u00eencredere, dar \u00een general, o semn\u0103tur\u0103 valid\u0103 este confirma\u021bia securit\u0103\u021bii.<\/li>\n<li>Dup\u0103 desc\u0103rcare, fi\u0219ierul este verificat de antivirus \u0219i, \u00eenainte de a fi deschis, de sistemul de operare. Pentru antiviru\u0219i, semn\u0103tura este, de asemenea, foarte important\u0103, lucru u\u0219or de verificat pe virustotal, iar \u00een ceea ce prive\u0219te sistemul de operare, \u00eencep\u00e2nd cu Win10, fi\u0219ierele cu certificatul revocat sunt imediat blocate \u0219i nu pot fi deschise din explorator. \u00cen plus, \u00een unele organiza\u021bii, rularea codului nesemnat este complet interzis\u0103 (aceasta fiind setat\u0103 prin intermediul sistemului), ceea ce este justificat \u2014 to\u021bi dezvoltatorii normali au avut deja grij\u0103 ca programele lor s\u0103 poat\u0103 fi verificate f\u0103r\u0103 eforturi suplimentare.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\n\u00cen general, direc\u021bia aleas\u0103 este corect\u0103 \u2014 \u00een m\u0103sura posibilit\u0103\u021bilor, s\u0103 facem internetul c\u00e2t mai sigur pentru utilizatorii neexperimenta\u021bi. Totu\u0219i, implementarea este \u00eenc\u0103 departe de ideal. Un dezvoltator obi\u0219nuit nu poate s\u0103 ob\u021bin\u0103 pur \u0219i simplu un certificat, el trebuie cump\u0103rat de la companii care au monopolizat aceast\u0103 pia\u021b\u0103 \u0219i impun propriile condi\u021bii. Dar ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 cu programele gratuite? Pe nimeni nu pare s\u0103 intereseze. Atunci dezvoltatorul are de ales \u2014 s\u0103 demonstreze constant securitatea programelor sale, sacrific\u00e2nd confortul utilizatorilor, sau s\u0103 cumpere un certificat. Acum trei ani, StartCom era o op\u021biune profitabil\u0103, care acum nu mai exist\u0103, iar cu ei nu au fost niciodat\u0103 probleme. \u00cen prezent, cel mai mic pre\u021b este oferit de Comodo, dar, dup\u0103 cum s-a dovedit, exist\u0103 un siretlic \u2014 pentru ei, dezvoltatorul este practic nimeni \u0219i a-l p\u0103c\u0103li este o practic\u0103 normal\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Dup\u0103 aproape un an de utilizare a certificatului, pe care l-am cump\u0103rat la mijlocul lui 2018, Comodo l-a revocat brusc, f\u0103r\u0103 notificare prealabil\u0103 prin e-mail sau telefon. Suportul tehnic func\u021bioneaz\u0103 prost \u2014 pot s\u0103 nu r\u0103spund\u0103 o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103, totu\u0219i am reu\u0219it s\u0103 aflu motivul principal \u2014 au considerat c\u0103 certificatul emis a fost semnat de un software mali\u021bios. \u0218i pe asta putea s\u0103 se \u00eencheie povestea, dac\u0103 nu ar fi un mic am\u0103nunt \u2014 eu niciodat\u0103 nu am creat software mali\u021bios, iar metodele mele de protec\u021bie dovedesc c\u0103 furtul cheii private de la mine este imposibil. O copie a cheii exist\u0103 doar la Comodo, pentru c\u0103 ei le emit f\u0103r\u0103 CSR. Iar apoi \u2014 aproape dou\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni de \u00eencerc\u0103ri nereu\u0219ite de a ob\u021bine o dovad\u0103 elementar\u0103. Compania care pretinde c\u0103 garanteaz\u0103 securitatea s-a refuzat s\u0103 ofere dovada unei \u00eenc\u0103lc\u0103ri a regulilor lor.<\/p>\n<p><b class=\"spoiler_title\">Din ultima conversa\u021bie cu suportul tehnic<\/b>Tu 01:20<br \/>\nAi scris \u00abNe str\u0103duim s\u0103 r\u0103spundem la tichetele de suport standard \u00een aceea\u0219i zi lucr\u0103toare.\u00bb dar eu a\u0219tept un r\u0103spuns de o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 acum.<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:20<br \/>\nBun\u0103, bun venit la validarea SSL Sectigo!<br \/>\nPermite-mi s\u0103 verific statutul cazului t\u0103u, te rog s\u0103 a\u0219tep\u021bi un moment.<br \/>\nAm verificat \u0219i comanda a fost revocat\u0103 din cauza malware-ului\/fraudei\/phishing-ului de c\u0103tre oficialii no\u0219tri superioari.<\/p>\n<p>Tu 01:28<br \/>\nSunt sigur c\u0103 aceasta este gre\u0219eala voastr\u0103, a\u0219a c\u0103 cer dovada.<br \/>\nNunca nu am avut malware\/fraud\u0103\/phishing.<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:30<br \/>\n\u00cemi pare r\u0103u, Alexander. Am verificat de dou\u0103 ori \u0219i comanda a fost revocat\u0103 din cauza malware-ului\/fraudei\/phishing-ului de c\u0103tre oficialii no\u0219tri superioari.<\/p>\n<p>Tu 01:31<br \/>\n\u00cen care fi\u0219ier ai v\u0103zut virusul? Exist\u0103 un link c\u0103tre virustotal? Nu accept r\u0103spunsul t\u0103u pentru c\u0103 nu exist\u0103 dovad\u0103 \u00een acesta. Am pl\u0103tit bani pentru acest certificat \u0219i am dreptul s\u0103 \u0219tiu de ce banii mei sunt lua\u021bi cu for\u021ba.<br \/>\nDac\u0103 nu po\u021bi oferi dovada, atunci certificatul a fost revocat f\u0103r\u0103 motiv \u0219i trebuie returna\u021bi banii. \u00cen caz contrar, care este sensul muncii tale dac\u0103 revoci certificate f\u0103r\u0103 dovezi?<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:34<br \/>\n\u00cen\u021beleg \u00eengrijorarea ta. Certificatul de semnare a codului a fost raportat pentru distribuirea de malware. Conform orient\u0103rilor din industrie: Sectigo, ca Autoritate de Certificare, este obligat\u0103 s\u0103 revoce certificatul.<br \/>\nDe asemenea, conform politicii de returnare, nu vom putea restitui banii dup\u0103 30 de zile de la data emiterii. <\/p>\n<p>Tu 01:35<br \/>\nDe ce crezi c\u0103 aceasta nu este o gre\u0219eal\u0103 sau un fals pozitiv?<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:36<br \/>\n\u00cemi pare r\u0103u, Alexander. Conform raportului oficialilor no\u0219tri superiori, comanda a fost revocat\u0103 din cauza malware-ului\/fraudelor\/phishing-ului.<\/p>\n<p>Tu 01:37<br \/>\nNu este nevoie s\u0103 te disculpi, am pl\u0103tit banii \u0219i vreau s\u0103 v\u0103d dovada c\u0103 am \u00eenc\u0103lcat regulile voastre. E simplu.<br \/>\nAm pl\u0103tit pentru trei ani, apoi a\u021bi venit cu un motiv \u0219i m-a\u021bi l\u0103sat f\u0103r\u0103 certificat \u0219i f\u0103r\u0103 dovezi ale vinov\u0103\u021biei mele.<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:43<br \/>\n\u00cen\u021beleg \u00eengrijorarea ta. Certificatul de semnare a codului a fost raportat pentru distribuirea de malware. Conform orient\u0103rilor din industrie: Sectigo, ca Autoritate de Certificare, este obligat\u0103 s\u0103 revoce certificatul.<\/p>\n<p>Tu 01:45<br \/>\nSe pare c\u0103 nu \u00een\u021belegi. Unde ai v\u0103zut vreodat\u0103 o instan\u021b\u0103 care pronun\u021b\u0103 o sentin\u021b\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 dovad\u0103? A\u021bi f\u0103cut exact asta. Nu am avut niciodat\u0103 malware. De ce nu oferi dovezi dac\u0103 este cazul? Ce dovezi specifice reprezint\u0103 revocarea unui certificat?<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:46<br \/>\n\u00cemi pare r\u0103u, Alexander. Conform raportului oficialilor no\u0219tri superiori, comanda a fost revocat\u0103 din cauza malware-ului\/fraudelor\/phishing-ului.<\/p>\n<p>Tu 01:47<br \/>\nDe unde pot afla adev\u0103ratul motiv pentru revocarea certificatului?<br \/>\nDac\u0103 nu po\u021bi r\u0103spunde, spune-mi cui s\u0103 m\u0103 contactez?<\/p>\n<p>Vinson 01:48<br \/>\nTe rog s\u0103 trimi\u021bi un tichet din nou folosind linkul de mai jos astfel \u00eenc\u00e2t s\u0103 prime\u0219ti un r\u0103spuns c\u00e2t mai repede posibil.<br \/>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/sectigo.com\/support-ticket\">sectigo.com\/support-ticket<\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<p>Tu 01:48<br \/>\nMul\u021bumesc.<br \/>\nAcest rezultat nu este singular, tot timpul negocierilor \u00een chat, \u00een cel mai bun caz, r\u0103spund la fel, iar la tichete fie nu r\u0103spund deloc, fie r\u0103spunsurile sunt la fel de inutile.<\/p>\n<p><b class=\"spoiler_title\">Creaz\u0103 din nou un tichet<\/b>Cererea mea:<br \/>\nSolicit dovezi c\u0103 am \u00eenc\u0103lcat o regul\u0103 care a dus la revocare. Am cump\u0103rat un certificat \u0219i vreau s\u0103 \u0219tiu de ce mi-au fost lua\u021bi banii.<br \/>\n\u201emalware\/fraud\u0103\/phishing\u201d nu este r\u0103spunsul! \u00cen ce fi\u0219ier ai v\u0103zut virusul? Exist\u0103 un link c\u0103tre virustotal? Te rog s\u0103 oferi dovada sau s\u0103 \u00eemi returnezi banii, m\u0103 s\u0103turasem s\u0103 scriu suportului tehnic \u0219i am a\u0219teptat mai mult de o s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103.<br \/>\nMul\u021bumesc.<\/p>\n<p>R\u0103spunsul lor:<br \/>\nCertificatul de semnare a codului a fost raportat pentru distribuirea de malware. Conform orient\u0103rilor din industrie: Sectigo, ca Autoritate de Certificare, este obligat\u0103 s\u0103 revoce certificatul.<br \/>\nSperan\u021ba c\u0103 \u00eemi va r\u0103spunde cineva care nu este o maimu\u021b\u0103 dispare complet. Se contureaz\u0103 un plan interesant:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>V\u00e2nz\u0103m certificat.<\/li>\n<li>A\u0219tept\u0103m mai mult de \u0219ase luni pentru ca prin PayPal s\u0103 nu se poat\u0103 deschide un dosar.<\/li>\n<li>Revoc\u0103m \u0219i a\u0219tept\u0103m urm\u0103toarea comand\u0103. Profit!<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\nDin moment ce nu am alte metode de a-i influen\u021ba, pot doar s\u0103 expun public \u00een\u0219el\u0103toria lor. Cump\u0103r\u00e2nd un certificat de la Comodo, care este de fapt Sectigo, te po\u021bi confrunta cu o situa\u021bie similar\u0103.<\/p>\n<p><b>Actualizare din 9 iunie:<\/b><br \/>\nAst\u0103zi am notificat CodeSignCert (compania prin care am cump\u0103rat certificatul) c\u0103, \u00eentruc\u00e2t au \u00eencetat s\u0103 r\u0103spund\u0103, am adus situa\u021bia \u00een aten\u021bia publicului, cu referire la acest articol. Dup\u0103 un timp, au trimis \u00een sf\u00e2r\u0219it un screenshot de virustotal, unde se putea vedea hash-ul programului <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.simplix.info\/ezvitupd\">EzvitUpd<\/a><\/noindex>:<br \/>\nVirusTotal \u2014 <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.virustotal.com\/gui\/file\/d92299c3f7791f0ebb7a6975f4295792fbbf75440cb1f47ef9190f2a4731d425\/detection\">d92299c3f7791f0ebb7a6975f4295792fbbf75440cb1f47ef9190f2a4731d425<\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<p>Evaluarea mea a situa\u021biei:<br \/>\nPot spune cu \u00eencredere c\u0103 acesta este un fals pozitiv. Semne:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Semnifica\u021bia Generic \u00een majoritatea detections.<\/li>\n<li>Lipsa detections la liderii antivirus.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\nEste greu de spus ce anume a provocat aceast\u0103 reac\u021bie din partea antivirusurilor, dar av\u00e2nd \u00een vedere c\u0103 fi\u0219ierul este foarte vechi (creat cu aproape un an \u00een urm\u0103), nu mai am sursa versiunii 1.6.1 pentru a recrea binar fi\u0219ierul. Totu\u0219i, am ultima versiune 1.6.5 \u0219i, av\u00e2nd \u00een vedere c\u0103 ramura principal\u0103 a r\u0103mas neschimbat\u0103, schimb\u0103rile au fost minime, dar aceasta nu a generat o astfel de detec\u021bie fals\u0103:<br \/>\nVirusTotal \u2014 <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.virustotal.com\/gui\/file\/c247d8c30eff4449c49dfc244040fc48bce4bba3e0890799de9f83e7a59310eb\/detection\">c247d8c30eff4449c49dfc244040fc48bce4bba3e0890799de9f83e7a59310eb<\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<p>CodeSignCert a fost notificat despre detectarea fals\u0103; dup\u0103 apari\u021bia unor rezultate suplimentare din negocieri, articolul va fi actualizat p\u00e2n\u0103 la solu\u021bionarea complet\u0103 a situa\u021biei.<br \/>\n<br \/>Sursa: <a content=\"nofollow\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/ru\/post\/455236\/\">habr.com<\/a><\/p>","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u041c\u043e\u0433\u043b\u0438 \u043b\u0438 \u0432\u044b \u043f\u0440\u0435\u0434\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u0438\u0442\u044c \u0441\u0435\u0431\u0435, \u0447\u0442\u043e \u043a\u0440\u0443\u043f\u043d\u0430\u044f \u043a\u043e\u043c\u043f\u0430\u043d\u0438\u044f \u0431\u0443\u0434\u0435\u0442 \u0437\u0430\u043d\u0438\u043c\u0430\u0442\u044c\u0441\u044f \u043e\u0431\u043c\u0430\u043d\u043e\u043c \u0441\u0432\u043e\u0438\u0445 \u043a\u043b\u0438\u0435\u043d\u0442\u043e\u0432, \u043e\u0441\u043e\u0431\u0435\u043d\u043d\u043e \u0435\u0441\u043b\u0438 \u044d\u0442\u0430 \u043a\u043e\u043c\u043f\u0430\u043d\u0438\u044f \u043f\u043e\u0437\u0438\u0446\u0438\u043e\u043d\u0438\u0440\u0443\u0435\u0442 \u0441\u0435\u0431\u044f \u0433\u0430\u0440\u0430\u043d\u0442\u043e\u043c \u0431\u0435\u0437\u043e\u043f\u0430\u0441\u043d\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438? 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