{"id":74736,"date":"2020-03-20T08:43:07","date_gmt":"2020-03-20T05:43:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/administrirovanie\/antipatterny-devops-sobesedovaniya"},"modified":"2020-03-20T08:43:07","modified_gmt":"2020-03-20T05:43:07","slug":"antipatterny-devops-sobesedovaniya","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/ro\/blog\/administrirovanie\/antipatterny-devops-sobesedovaniya","title":{"rendered":"Antipatternuri \u00een interviurile DevOps","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Salut tuturor, dragi cititori!<\/p>\n<p>Ast\u0103zi vreau s\u0103 \u00eemi \u00eemp\u0103rt\u0103\u0219esc g\u00e2ndurile despre o tem\u0103 veche \u0219i dureroas\u0103, \u0219i poate s\u0103 o discut\u0103m \u00een comentarii.<br \/>\nDestul de des \u00eent\u00e2lnesc articole despre practicile proaste de interviu pentru un programator, care, \u00een opinia mea, sunt destul de relevante \u0219i, sper, citite de departamentele HR ale unor companii mari \u0219i nu numai.<br \/>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"habracut\"><\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<p>\u00cen zona noastr\u0103, at\u00e2t c\u00e2t pot judeca, exist\u0103 o cerere pentru entit\u0103\u021bi interesante precum inginerul DevOps. M\u0103 num\u0103r printre cei care nu percep foarte bine aceast\u0103 sintagm\u0103 (da, da, metoda DevOps etc.), a\u0219a c\u0103 v\u0103d o anumit\u0103 diferen\u021b\u0103 \u00een c\u0103ile de dezvoltare ale acestei grup\u0103ri de speciali\u0219ti.<br \/>\n\u00cen primul r\u00e2nd, cred cu t\u0103rie c\u0103 fiecare om are cercul s\u0103u de interese, chiar \u0219i \u00een domeniul profesional, adic\u0103 unora le plac norii, altora le place s\u0103 se apuce de administrarea serverelor aplica\u021bii, s\u0103 configureze profund Java, iar altora s\u0103 scrie cod \u00een Python sau, Doamne fere\u0219te, cod YAML. Aici apar a\u0219a-numi\u021bii ingineri de infrastructur\u0103, ingineri de construc\u021bie, Senior Yaml Developer \ud83d\ude42<br \/>\nToate acestea permit, pe de o parte, g\u0103sirea unei persoane care se potrive\u0219te cel mai bine cu setul vostru de sarcini, iar pe de alt\u0103 parte, creeaz\u0103 ne\u00een\u021belegeri la interviuri.<br \/>\nPe baza experien\u021bei personale, am sus\u021binut un anumit num\u0103r de zeci de interviuri \u0219i am participat \u00een diverse calit\u0103\u021bi, vreau s\u0103 \u00eemp\u0103rt\u0103\u0219esc perspectiva mea asupra tuturor celor \u00eent\u00e2mplate.<\/p>\n<p>Primul \u0219i probabil cel mai drag mie anti-model - dorin\u021ba de a avea pe cineva care s\u0103 fac\u0103 totul, sau nu se \u0219tie cine este necesar, s\u0103 vedem o mul\u021bime de candida\u021bi \u0219i vom \u00een\u021belege acolo. Probabil c\u0103 acest lucru se aplic\u0103 \u00een orice domeniu, dar aici sunt anumite particularit\u0103\u021bi.<br \/>\nA\u0219a cum am observat, oamenii sunt mai atra\u0219i de anun\u021burile de angajare cu cuv\u00e2ntul DevOps dec\u00e2t de Administrator de sistem, de\u0219i, \u00een opinia mea, la nivelul Senior, domeniul sarcinilor este extrem de diferit \u00een aceste dou\u0103 domenii.<br \/>\nOrice angajator, care are cu adev\u0103rat nevoie de un administrator de sistem, scrie \u00een titlul anun\u021bului devops, enumer\u00e2nd \u00een corpul cererii absolut tot felul, K8S\/Java\/gradle\/oracleDB etc. pe list\u0103, de\u0219i, din interior, persoana trebuie s\u0103 se ocupe de suportul clusterului K8S \u0219i de suportul stivei OracleDB \u00een lipsa echipei. <br \/>\nDeci, care este, \u00een acest caz, interac\u021biunea dintre Developeri\/Opera\u021biuni?<br \/>\nApoi se dovede\u0219te c\u0103 nu exist\u0103 un proces de interac\u021biune cu echipa \u0219i, \u00een general, nu exist\u0103 un departament de opera\u021biuni, iar voi trebuie s\u0103 configura\u021bi calculatoarele dezvoltatorilor.<br \/>\nAceast\u0103 variant\u0103 se potrive\u0219te \u00eentr-adev\u0103r unei p\u0103r\u021bi din candida\u021bi, dar s\u0103 fim sinceri, este vorba despre Administrator de Sistem Senior, a\u0219a c\u0103 de ce nu vor s\u0103 scrie a\u0219a \u0219i ce este at\u00e2t de ru\u0219inos \u00een asta? Diferen\u021ba de salariu \u00eentre diferitele denumiri profesionale? Dar bugetul companiei este acela\u0219i, \u0219i cum i-ai da nume, tot va \u00eenota pe bugetul s\u0103u. <br \/>\n\u00cen plus, am auzit c\u0103 acum candidatul automatizeaz\u0103 rapid totul \u0219i se integreaz\u0103 \u00een dezvoltarea produsului \u00een Python, care este diferen\u021ba, peste tot Python este acela\u0219i. Diferen\u021bele \u00een viziuni \u0219i abord\u0103ri nu sunt luate \u00een considerare.<\/p>\n<p>Apoi, de obicei, diferen\u021biez nivelul speciali\u0219tilor care vin, iar pentru fiecare v\u0103d propriile nepl\u0103ceri.<br \/>\nJunior - personal, pentru mine, Junior DevOps este o persoan\u0103 care a st\u0103p\u00e2nit la un nivel mediu administrarea sistemelor \/ dezvoltarea. Aici \u00eemi face pl\u0103cere s\u0103 diferen\u021biez Linuxoid-ii puternici care doresc s\u0103 creasc\u0103 \u00eentr-un nou domeniu, sau dezvoltatorii care au dorin\u021ba de a face bine pentru al\u021bi dezvoltatori. Persoane solide, cu abilit\u0103\u021bi de depanare, c\u0103utare a jurnalelor, sau cu un anumit num\u0103r de proiecte codificate.<br \/>\nAm \u00eent\u00e2lnit at\u00e2t administratori de sistem care au \u00eencercat ceva \u0219i vor s\u0103 se apropie de cloud, c\u00e2t \u0219i pe cei care au \u00eencercat frontend, backend \u0219i din diverse motive \u0219i-au g\u0103sit interesul \u00een procesele DevOps. <br \/>\nLa acest nivel, m\u0103 deranjeaz\u0103 \u00eentotdeauna c\u00e2nd \u00eencep s\u0103 vorbesc despre un stiv\u0103 uria\u0219\u0103 de tehnologii, Puppet, Ansible - de ce nu ai \u00eencercat tot? K8S, K3S - cu ce se deosebesc? C\u00e2te tipuri de baze de date \u0219tii? De ce at\u00e2t de pu\u021bine? Cum func\u021bioneaz\u0103 criptarea \u00een Java? \u00cen special cei care vin din dezvoltare, de\u0219i sunt persoane foarte utile, pentru ei \u00eentotdeauna exist\u0103 munc\u0103 \u00een acest domeniu.<br \/>\nM\u0103 las\u0103 \u00eentotdeauna perplex c\u00e2nd se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 asta, prima \u00eentrebare pe care vreau s\u0103 o pun este - de ce??? a doua \u00eentrebare care \u00eemi vine \u00een minte - este intervievatorul preg\u0103tit s\u0103 r\u0103spund\u0103 la \u00eentreb\u0103rile despre un astfel de stiv\u0103 diversificat? Nu vor s\u0103 angajeze un junior \u0219i s\u0103-i pun\u0103 totul \u00een spate? <br \/>\nAdesea, \u00eent\u00e2lnesc asta \u00een diferite bodyshop-uri, c\u00e2nd trebuie s\u0103 v\u00e2nd\u0103 o persoan\u0103 pe un anumit proiect \u0219i au nevoie de mai multe cuvinte impresionante pentru CV, sau compania nu vrea s\u0103 angajeze pe nimeni, ci doar se uit\u0103 la ce fel de juni exist\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Nivelul Middle <br \/>\nAici sunt c\u00e2teva extremit\u0103\u021bi, din punctul meu de vedere. \u00cen primul r\u00e2nd, cred c\u0103 este dificil s\u0103 determini exact c\u00e2nd o persoan\u0103 devine nivel mid. Ori \u00eencearc\u0103 s\u0103 o coboare la junior, ori o trateaz\u0103 ca pe un senior, \u00eencerc\u00e2nd s\u0103 ob\u021bin\u0103 un senior la pre\u021b de mid (da, pia\u021ba decide, nimic personal).<br \/>\nCel mai surprinz\u0103tor lucru pe care l-am observat este c\u0103 se ajunge ad\u00e2nc \u00een codare, s\u0103 folose\u0219ti Python, s\u0103 te lup\u021bi cu Java GC, adic\u0103 cu teme deja mai bine specializate, sau dimpotriv\u0103, s\u0103 deschizi goluri \u00een cuno\u0219tin\u021bele vechi, s\u0103 alergi prin re\u021bele, tipuri de drivere de OS, r\u00e2z\u00e2nd \u0219i bucur\u00e2ndu-te c\u0103 o persoan\u0103 a putut uita asta. \u0218i aici se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 lucrul cel mai interesant!<br \/>\nLa nivelul mid, din punctul meu de vedere, specialistul \u00ee\u0219i formeaz\u0103 un cerc de interese \u0219i o viziune personal\u0103 asupra a ceea ce vrea s\u0103 fac\u0103: s\u0103 fie la curent cu cele mai recente tehnologii, integr\u00e2ndu-le \u00een portofoliul s\u0103u, sau s\u0103 se dezvolte pentru un antrepriz\u0103 mare, aprofund\u00e2nd performan\u021ba codului. <br \/>\nConsider c\u0103 already aici ar trebui s\u0103 \u00eentreb\u0103m despre procesele la care persoana a lucrat, s\u0103 afl\u0103m ce a fost cu adev\u0103rat interesant \u0219i ce nu \u0219i, pe baza acestor informa\u021bii, s\u0103 construim un grup de \u00eentreb\u0103ri, map\u00e2nd neap\u0103rat \u00eentreb\u0103rile pe propriul nostru stack. Altfel, dup\u0103 o discu\u021bie fascinant\u0103 de o or\u0103 sau dou\u0103 despre configurarea unui cluster OpenShift, angajezi o persoan\u0103 \u0219i o pui s\u0103 construiasc\u0103 monitorizarea. Probabil c\u0103 asta va pl\u0103cea ambele p\u0103r\u021bi.<\/p>\n<p>Nivelul Senior <br \/>\nO, nivelul meu preferat.<br \/>\n\u00cen fa\u021ba voastr\u0103 se afl\u0103 un specialist puternic, care s-a dezvoltat \u00een cadrul diferitelor proiecte, o persoan\u0103 care deja \u0219tie ce \u00ee\u0219i dore\u0219te \u0219i ce nu \u00eei place at\u00e2t de mult.<br \/>\n\u0218i aici \u00eencepe spectacolul:<br \/>\n \u2014 \u00eentreb\u0103ri dificile despre administrarea sistemelor (vezi primul antipattern)<br \/>\n \u2014 \u00eentreb\u0103ri profunde despre Linux \u00een general, din domeniul teoriei, departe de cuno\u0219tin\u021be practice (\u00centrebarea de baz\u0103 OSI)<br \/>\n \u2014 \u00eentreb\u0103ri academice despre codare (pentru c\u0103 intervievatorul \u00eensu\u0219i nu \u0219tie bine domeniul, a fost pur \u0219i simplu rugat s\u0103 intervin\u0103 cu un devops mai ciudat)<br \/>\nAici voi face o mic\u0103 observa\u021bie. Odat\u0103, la un interviu, mi s-a cerut s\u0103 scriu un anumit fragment de cod. Pe o foaie. A\u0219a cum fac to\u021bi, scriind zi de zi, foaia este totul pentru noi.<br \/>\nDup\u0103 ce am finalizat sarcina, dup\u0103 ce am examinat foaia mea \u0219i solu\u021bia, a fost emis verdictul c\u0103 algoritmul va fi neoptimal. Am propus ca intervievatorul s\u0103 \u00ee\u0219i scrie propriul algoritm, la care am primit r\u0103spunsul \u201eNu face parte din interviu\u201d. Am cerut un minut, am modificat pu\u021bin codul \u0219i am ar\u0103tat, \u00eentreb\u00e2nd, dac\u0103 va fi mai rapid sau mai lent? La care am primit r\u0103spunsul, hai s\u0103 trecem la urm\u0103toarea \u00eentrebare. Diferen\u021ba era \u00een modul de func\u021bionare a codului \u00een interiorul unei bucle \u0219i f\u0103r\u0103 bucl\u0103 \u0219i aveam o explica\u021bie preg\u0103tit\u0103 de ce ar fi mai bine s\u0103 facem a\u0219a, nu a\u0219a. Ei bine, dup\u0103 asta nu mai aveam poft\u0103 s\u0103 r\u0103spund la \u00eentreb\u0103ri \u0219i s\u0103 lucrez cu aceast\u0103 persoan\u0103. <br \/>\nTrebuie s\u0103 \u021binem cont c\u0103 suntem diferi\u021bi \u0219i orice detaliu care pentru tine este nesemnificativ poate alunga un candidat. <br \/>\n \u2014 de obicei, speciali\u0219tii de nivel Senior au descris clar tehnologiile pe care le folosesc, dar nu, trebuie s\u0103 \u00eencepem s\u0103 trecem \u00een revist\u0103 lucruri apropiate, spre exemplu, ave\u021bi scris Ansible, excelent, dar la noi este Puppet, te-am invitat doar a\u0219a, hai s\u0103 ne poveste\u0219ti despre Puppet. Grozav! Ai lucrat cu OpenShift? La noi avem K8s, nu \u0219tim diferen\u021bele, dar experien\u021ba ta nu este relevant\u0103. Minunat! <\/p>\n<p>Exist\u0103 \u0219i un astfel de subtip \u2014 personal eu \u00eemi aleg stagiaires pentru a-i preg\u0103ti pentru a deveni Junior.<br \/>\nAr fi bine ca to\u021bi s\u0103 \u00een\u021beleag\u0103 c\u0103 un stagiar este o entitate care \u00eenc\u0103 nu s-a format. M\u0103 sperie teribil c\u00e2nd stagiairele sunt \u00eempinse la nivelul unui Junior experimentat \u0219i apoi, cu o fa\u021b\u0103 mul\u021bumit\u0103, le ofer\u0103 o stagiu (uneori nepl\u0103tit\u0103, un co\u0219mar!)<br \/>\nNu face\u021bi a\u0219a.<br \/>\nUn stagiar, din punctul meu de vedere, este fie un student \u00een an terminal, fie cineva care foarte mult \u00ee\u0219i dore\u0219te s\u0103 \u201eias\u0103 \u00een IT\u201d.<br \/>\nCu studen\u021bii e simplu \u2014 este excelent s\u0103 afli ce face la universitate, ce a realizat singur, s\u0103 observi pe ce \u00eentreb\u0103ri \u00ee\u0219i lumineaz\u0103 ochii \u2014 dac\u0103 se lumineaz\u0103, s\u0103 \u00eentreb de ce anume DevOps \u0219i ce \u0219tie despre asta. S\u0103 sim\u021bi omul \u0219i s\u0103 \u00een\u021belegi dac\u0103 va fi pl\u0103cut s\u0103 lucrezi mai departe cu el, dac\u0103 dore\u0219ti s\u0103-i \u00eenve\u021bi ceva anume.<br \/>\nCu cei care vor s\u0103 \u201eias\u0103 \u00een IT\u201d, lucrurile sunt pu\u021bin mai riguroase \u2014 s\u0103 observi c\u00e2t de mult se auto\u00eenva\u021b\u0103, ce a realizat \u00eenainte de a ajunge la tine la interviu, aici o variant\u0103 bun\u0103 ar fi s\u0103 te ui\u021bi pe GitHub, dac\u0103 exist\u0103, densitatea commit-urilor \u0219i ce exerci\u021bii au fost realizate. De asemenea, s\u0103 \u00eentrebi de ce totu\u0219i DevOps, c\u0103ci \u00een frontend e mai distractiv \u0219i mai ingenios? <\/p>\n<p>\u00cen cele din urm\u0103, a\u0219 dori s\u0103 ofer, din nou, un sfat: stabili\u021bi cine v\u0103 este cu adev\u0103rat necesar \u0219i ve\u021bi g\u0103si imediat persoana potrivit\u0103. Identifica\u021bi nevoile, privi\u021bi specialistul ca pe un expert, g\u0103si\u021bi punctele lui forte \u0219i folosi\u021bi-le eficient \u00een munca dumneavoastr\u0103. 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