{"id":92431,"date":"2020-08-27T07:41:56","date_gmt":"2020-08-27T05:41:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/administrirovanie\/crm-sistemy-ne-sushhestvuyut"},"modified":"2020-08-27T07:41:56","modified_gmt":"2020-08-27T05:41:56","slug":"crm-sistemy-ne-sushhestvuyut","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/ro\/blog\/administrirovanie\/crm-sistemy-ne-sushhestvuyut","title":{"rendered":"Sistemele CRM nu exist\u0103?","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Salut, Habr! Pe 22 aprilie anul acesta am scris un articol pe Habr despre reducerile pentru sistemele CRM. Atunci mi s-a p\u0103rut c\u0103 pre\u021bul este cel mai important criteriu de alegere, iar restul le voi rezolva u\u0219or cu mintea mea \u0219i experien\u021ba de administrator sistem. \u0218eful a\u0219tepta de la mine minuni rapide, angaja\u021bii s-au a\u0219ezat s\u0103 leneveasc\u0103 s\u0103 lucreze de acas\u0103, COVID-ul circula pe planet\u0103, eu c\u0103utam sistemul visurilor mele. Ast\u0103zi, 25 august, \u0219i sistemul nu a fost \u00eenc\u0103 ales, de\u0219i favori\u021bii au fost deja stabili\u021bi. Eu \u0219i c\u00e2\u021biva colegi am trecut prin c\u00e2teva zeci de prezent\u0103ri, prin megabytes de e-mailuri, chat-uri \u0219i trafic vocal. \u0218i am ajuns surprinz\u0103tor la o concluzie interesant\u0103: CRM-urile nu exist\u0103. Niciunul. A\u0219a c\u0103, prieteni. \u0218i nu este un titlu clickbait, ci o observa\u021bie analitic\u0103.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Sistemele CRM nu exist\u0103?\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/b59dae209d17d407834146991f658991.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<i>Urm\u0103ri\u021bi cu aten\u021bie<\/i><br \/>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"habracut\"><\/a><\/noindex><br \/>\n<i>Al meu<\/i><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/ru\/post\/498572\/\"><i> primul post pe Habr<\/i><\/a><\/noindex><i>, care a fost scris \u00een aprilie, dar pare c\u0103 ieri.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>O munc\u0103 infernal\u0103, dar auto-izolarea mi-a oferit pu\u021bin timp suplimentar - nu pentru c\u0103 lucrez pu\u021bin, ci pentru c\u0103 nu petrec \u00een trafic, \u00een total, aproximativ trei ore. \u00centrebarea despre ce s\u0103 fac nu a existat - am continuat cu o determinare maniacal\u0103 s\u0103 testez sistemele CRM, pentru c\u0103 \u0219eful meu vrea s\u0103 ias\u0103 din criz\u0103 automatizat p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een din\u021bi \u0219i s\u0103 lucreze diferit. \u00cendemnurile lui, desigur, le \u00eemp\u0103rt\u0103\u0219esc, dar s\u0103 m\u0103 afund \u00een o duzin\u0103 de programe este o distrac\u021bie de proast\u0103 calitate. Prin urmare, pentru a-mi diversifica via\u021ba, am decis s\u0103 abordez alegerea din perspective diferite \u0219i s\u0103 scriu periodic despre observa\u021biile mele aici, pe Habr.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Deoarece lista sistemelor CRM pe care le-am studiat s-a schimbat, voi ad\u0103uga \u0219i actualiza lista eroilor mei. Dar CRM-ul nu este \u00eenc\u0103 ales \u0219i toate noti\u021bele nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 aproape nimic - toat\u0103 nou\u0103 este minunat\u0103, to\u021bi sunt buni.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/dynamics.microsoft.com\/ru-ru\/\">Microsoft Dynamics CRM<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 au ie\u0219it din lista scurt\u0103 din cauza costurilor ridicate \u0219i a necesit\u0103\u021bii achizi\u021bion\u0103rii unui num\u0103r de conectori din cauza reglement\u0103rilor contabile ruse\u0219ti<\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.terrasoft.ru\/sales\/\">Sales Creatio<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 au ie\u0219it din lista scurt\u0103 din cauza costului excesiv \u0219i a necesit\u0103\u021bii de a cump\u0103ra o versiune suplimentar\u0103 pentru c\u00e2teva func\u021bii\u00a0<\/li>\n<li><b><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/unlimited.bitrix24.tech\/\">Bitrix24<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 \u00een lista scurt\u0103<\/b><\/li>\n<li><b><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amocrm.com\/\">amoCRM<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 \u00een lista scurt\u0103<\/b><\/li>\n<li><b><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.regionsoft.ru\/\">RegionSoft CRM<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 \u00een lista scurt\u0103<\/b><\/li>\n<li><b><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.prostoy.ru\/\">CRM Afaceri U\u0219oare<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 \u00een lista scurt\u0103<\/b><\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/clientbase.ru\/\">Baza de clien\u021bi <\/a><\/noindex>\u2013 au ie\u0219it din lista scurt\u0103 din cauza func\u021bionalit\u0103\u021bii modeste \u0219i a unor aspecte tehnice care nu mi-au pl\u0103cut<\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/megaplan.ru\/\">Megaplan<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 au ie\u0219it din lista scurt\u0103, deoarece au pierdut \u00een fa\u021ba concuren\u021bei din aceea\u0219i \u201elig\u0103 sub aripa 1C\u201d\u00a0\u00a0<\/li>\n<li><b><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/freshoffice.co.nz\/\">FreshOffice<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 \u00een lista scurt\u0103<\/b><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\nMai erau \u00eenc\u0103 c\u00e2teva CRM-uri, dar erau complet\u2026 eh\u2026 ni\u0219te solu\u021bii crude care \u00ee\u0219i pierd atrac\u021bia la prima revizuire + dou\u0103 solu\u021bii importate au picat din cauza localiz\u0103rii defectuoase. Dar dac\u0103 crede\u021bi c\u0103 cinci sisteme \u00een lista scurt\u0103 fac via\u021ba mai u\u0219oar\u0103, v\u0103 \u00een\u0219ela\u021bi \u2014 \u0219tiu deja c\u0103 alegerea va fi complicat\u0103, deoarece cerin\u021bele cresc, iar eu, con\u0219tient c\u0103 ace\u0219ti pretenden\u021bi pot face multe, am decis s\u0103 trec prin c\u00e2teva runde de negocieri suplimentare.<\/p>\n<p>Deci, observa\u021bia mea nou\u0103: CRM \u00een Rusia\u2026nu exist\u0103! Dac\u0103 ne baz\u0103m pe defini\u021bia strict\u0103 a sistemului CRM, \u00een lista mea nu exist\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>De fapt, acum exagerez pu\u021bin: nicio solu\u021bie aleas\u0103 nu poate fi numit\u0103 nici ERP, nici CRM, nici BPM. Acestea sunt solu\u021bii universale cu un set foarte larg de func\u021bionalit\u0103\u021bi.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen concluzie, s\u0103 revenim la subiect.<\/p>\n<h2>Imaginea CRM-ului \u00een vid<\/h2>\n<p><\/p>\n<h3>Ce este CRM?<\/h3>\n<p>\nS\u0103 lu\u0103m defini\u021bia din Wikipedia: <strong>sistem de management al rela\u021biilor cu clien\u021bii<\/strong> (CRM, sistem CRM, abreviere de la englez\u0103 Customer Relationship Management) \u2014 software aplicativ pentru organiza\u021bii, destinat automatiz\u0103rii strategiilor de interac\u021biune cu clien\u021bii, \u00een special pentru \u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u021birea v\u00e2nz\u0103rilor, optimizarea marketingului \u0219i \u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u021birea serviciilor pentru clien\u021bi prin p\u0103strarea informa\u021biilor despre clien\u021bi \u0219i istoricul rela\u021biilor cu ace\u0219tia, stabilirea \u0219i \u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u021birea proceselor de afaceri \u0219i analiza rezultatelor ulterioare.<\/p>\n<p>Deci, putem eviden\u021bia c\u00e2teva caracteristici tipice ale sistemelor CRM.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Automatizeaz\u0103 strategia \u2014 adic\u0103 \u00eenlocuie\u0219te o parte din procesele de rutin\u0103 cu ac\u021biuni programabile ale ma\u0219inii \u0219i ofer\u0103 interfe\u021be pentru o munc\u0103 rapid\u0103 \u0219i productiv\u0103 pe \u00eentregul ciclu de lucru cu clien\u021bii.<\/li>\n<li>Se concentreaz\u0103 pe v\u00e2nz\u0103ri, marketing \u0219i suport \u2014 CRM-ul lucreaz\u0103 cu toate aspectele activit\u0103\u021bii comerciale a companiei. Este important ca toate cele trei departamente s\u0103 aib\u0103 acces la informa\u021biile din CRM.<\/li>\n<li>P\u0103streaz\u0103 informa\u021biile acumulate \u2014 \u00een baza de date se acumuleaz\u0103, se proceseaz\u0103 \u0219i se p\u0103streaz\u0103 informa\u021bii despre tranzac\u021bii, clien\u021bi, evenimente cheie etc.<\/li>\n<li>Se concentreaz\u0103 pe analiza rezultatelor \u2014 datorit\u0103 acumul\u0103rii \u0219i p\u0103str\u0103rii informa\u021biilor, sistemul CRM ofer\u0103 func\u021bii analitice.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>\nUite, vede\u021bi c\u00e2t de bine am formulat totul \u2014 totul pentru c\u0103 am ascultat o duzin\u0103 de prezent\u0103ri CRM, am citit jum\u0103tate din Internet \u0219i m-am ad\u00e2ncit \u00een subiect. Toate solu\u021biile enumerate au aceste caracteristici, dar \u00een majoritatea lor, acestea sunt doar o mic\u0103 parte din \u00eentreaga func\u021bionalitate.<\/p>\n<h4>Cum am v\u0103zut CRM \u00eenainte de a m\u0103 aprofunda \u00een subiect<\/h4>\n<p>\n\u00cen compania mea, comercian\u021bii \u0219i managerii sunt destul de pasivi \u00een ceea ce prive\u0219te software-ul \u2014 nu este un lucru de \u201emari\u201d. De aceea, cerin\u021bele noastre sunt destul de moderate: le-am ob\u021binut aproape cu for\u021ba. \u00cens\u0103 eu \u0219i \u0219eful meu am v\u0103zut clar: a venit un client, a fost introdus \u00een CRM, apoi a fost sunat din CRM, s-au ata\u0219at documente, am v\u0103zut c\u00e2te etape a parcurs, am \u00eencheiat tranzac\u021bia. Apoi am analizat etapele, cei care meritau au fost recompensa\u021bi, iar cei care nu, au fost admonesta\u021bi, procesul s-a optimizat, hurra. Pentru noi CRM a fost un sistem pentru v\u00e2nz\u0103ri.<\/p>\n<h4>Cum v\u0103d CRM dup\u0103 aproape 5 luni de munc\u0103 analitic\u0103<\/h4>\n<p>\nPoate c\u0103, dac\u0103 a\u0219 fi \u00eenceput cu amoCRM, nu a\u0219 fi aflat ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 pe pia\u021ba CRM, pentru c\u0103 se aliniaz\u0103 perfect cu percep\u021biile mele. L-a\u0219 fi cump\u0103rat, apoi licen\u021bele \u201eMicul meu magazin\u201d, apoi \u00eenc\u0103 c\u00e2teva add-on-uri \u0219i m-a\u0219 fi considerat un automatizator genial. Mai ales c\u0103 partenerii care sunau ne\u00eentrerupt din aceast\u0103 sistem\u0103 literalmente nu-\u021bi d\u0103deau voie s\u0103 te g\u00e2nde\u0219ti la alte solu\u021bii.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Dar cumva a ie\u0219it c\u0103 am \u00eenceput cu <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/dynamics.microsoft.com\/ru-ru\/\">Microsoft Dynamics CRM<\/a><\/noindex> \u0219i aceast\u0103 solu\u021bie, \u00een ciuda dificult\u0103\u021bilor \u0219i pre\u021burilor, a stabilit un alt nivel, sau mai bine zis, a n\u0103scut prima idee: \u201eDar nu cumva nu trebuie s\u0103 cump\u0103r \u0219i un program pentru gestiune?\u201d \u0218i am g\u0103sit solu\u021bii cu gestiune \u201ela bord\u201d, nu mai pu\u021bin de patru! Apoi, ascult\u00e2nd prezent\u0103rile altor CRM-uri, st\u00e2nd \u00een spatele colegei mele, am realizat c\u0103 CRM-urile moderne sunt sisteme multifunc\u021bionale, care pot face foarte multe. Dar\u2026 este oare aceasta CRM? Nu cumva va duce la o hiper-automatizare a unei afaceri care a\u0219tepta automatizarea v\u00e2nz\u0103rilor, dar a primit totul deodat\u0103? Este nevoie de o astfel de automatizare? Mintea mea este plin\u0103 de g\u00e2nduri \u2014 \u00een \u00eentreaga mea carier\u0103 de administrator \u0219i manager nu m-am g\u00e2ndit at\u00e2t de mult la software-ul!\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Dac\u0103 e s\u0103 spun sincer, aleg CRM nu pentru o corpora\u021bie, ci pentru o mic\u0103 companie care se ocup\u0103 cu v\u00e2nz\u0103rile angro de produse plictisitoare \u00een B2B. Suntem doar 17, dar CRM-ul este necesar pentru fiecare \u2014 din motive diferite. De ce vreau s\u0103 caut at\u00e2t de mult? Recunosc, din ini\u021biativa mea: vreau s\u0103 g\u0103sesc o solu\u021bie cu adev\u0103rat optim\u0103 la un pre\u021b rezonabil \u0219i cu minimum de modific\u0103ri. Vis\u0103tor!<\/p>\n<p>Iat\u0103 ce CRM-uri \u2014 nu CRM-uri am identificat.<\/p>\n<h3>Mai degrab\u0103 BPM cu func\u021bii CRM<\/h3>\n<p>\n\u00cen general, am evitat solu\u021biile cu BPM la bord, mai ales \u00een nota\u021bia BPMN. \u00cen primul r\u00e2nd, nu v\u0103d cum am putea construi procesele de afaceri \u00een companie, \u00een al doilea r\u00e2nd, echipa mea este format\u0103 din mine, \u0219eful \u0219i o mul\u021bime de persoane din departamentele comerciale \u0219i de v\u00e2nz\u0103ri, care se tem de Excel ca de foc. Cu toate acestea, \u00een timpul test\u0103rii CRM-urilor (am \u00eencercat deja 17, doar c\u0103 unele au fost eliminate \u00eenc\u0103 de la prima convorbire), am realizat c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 existe procese \u00een sistemul CRM (sau nu CRM?), deoarece asta simplific\u0103 foarte mult via\u021ba managerilor: imagina\u021bi-v\u0103, \u0219ti\u021bi exact ce trebuie s\u0103 face\u021bi, cine \u0219i c\u00e2nd trebuie s\u0103 fac\u0103 asta, totul este notat, trimite memento-uri \u0219i e-mailuri. O poveste minunat\u0103 \u00een care po\u021bi \u00eenv\u00e2rti orice afacere, \u00eencheierea unui contract, procesul de angajare \u0219i formare, livrarea, promo\u021bia, oricum dore\u0219ti.<\/p>\n<p>\u0218i da, procesele de afaceri bine realizate exist\u0103 \u00een c\u00e2teva solu\u021bii pe pia\u021b\u0103. Dintre cele pe care le analiz\u0103m, procesele \u00een nota\u021bia BPMN 2.0 sunt prezente \u00een <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.terrasoft.ru\/sales\/\">Sales Creatio<\/a><\/noindex>, \u00een diverse forme native mi-au pl\u0103cut procesele de afaceri \u00een <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.regionsoft.ru\/\">RegionSoft CRM<\/a><\/noindex> \u0219i <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/unlimited.bitrix24.tech\/\">Bitrix24<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 ele sunt, dac\u0103 ar fi s\u0103 exprim figurativ, umane, clare. Nu, nu am speran\u021be c\u0103 managerul de v\u00e2nz\u0103ri, Ivan, va reu\u0219i cu ele, dar sunt sigur c\u0103 se va descurca f\u0103r\u0103 probleme s\u0103 lucreze cu lan\u021burile configurate \u00een sisteme. Apropo, consultan\u021bii amoCRM promoveaz\u0103 activ ideea c\u0103 tubul de v\u00e2nz\u0103ri este, de fapt, un proces de afaceri \u2014 aici nu ai cum s\u0103 te contrazici, dar acesta este un proces, toate celelalte nu se pot construi pe acesta, trebuie s\u0103 achizi\u021bionezi o solu\u021bie costisitoare de la o a treia parte \u0219i o halb\u0103 de bere l\u00e2ng\u0103 aceasta pentru a \u00een\u021belege, sau partenerii vor configura singuri procesele \u00een acest sistem, dar la un pre\u021b mare.<\/p>\n<p>A\u0219adar, \u00een aceast\u0103 categorie, dau prioritate <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.terrasoft.ru\/sales\/\">Sales Creatio<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 este este o solu\u021bie conceput\u0103 direct pentru procesele de afaceri, printre care se num\u0103r\u0103 \u0219i structuri gata f\u0103cute. De fapt, produsul s-a numit anterior bpm'online, a\u0219a c\u0103 nu ar trebui s\u0103 ne \u00eendoim de procese. Din p\u0103cate, este un sistem foarte scump, care, \u00een plus, nu este foarte coerent \u00een universabilitatea sa \u2014 de exemplu, solu\u021bia pentru marketing este un sistem costisitor separat.\u00a0<\/p>\n<h3>Mai degrab\u0103, ERP cu func\u021bii CRM<\/h3>\n<p>\nAici devine complicat, deoarece universalitatea atinge un v\u00e2rf absolut, dar apar \u00eentreb\u0103ri despre cum s\u0103 ne descurc\u0103m cu aceast\u0103 solu\u021bie. Prima impresie este c\u0103 e ca \u0219i cum ai cump\u0103ra un Dodge RAM-3500 \u0219i apoi ai \u00eencep s\u0103 te g\u00e2nde\u0219ti cum s\u0103 treci prin str\u0103du\u021bele \u00eenguste din zona Ostozhenka, de exemplu. Dar sunt \u0219i perspective \u0219i noi oportunit\u0103\u021bi largi, a\u0219a c\u0103 nu e totul at\u00e2t de simplu. A\u0219adar, dac\u0103 nu \u0219tia\u021bi, un sistem ERP este un software care ajut\u0103 la integrarea activit\u0103\u021bilor opera\u021bionale, produc\u021biei, gestion\u0103rii personalului, managementului financiar etc. Modelul general de date \u00een astfel de sisteme ajut\u0103 la optimizarea \u0219i completarea la timp a resurselor, structura proceselor. A fi o sistem ERP complet este complicat, pentru c\u0103 aceasta este o poveste despre licita\u021bii birocratice, anumite produc\u021bii complicate, implement\u0103ri pe termen lung etc. Sincer, nu a\u0219 vrea s\u0103 m\u0103 potric cu un \u201eerp-ist\u201d obosit de acest sistem. Dar a\u0219 accepta un depozit \u0219i poate \u0219i produc\u021bia.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Tot ce am nevoie din punctul de vedere \u201ed\u0103-mi o f\u0103r\u00e2m\u0103 din ERP\u201d, am g\u0103sit \u00een dou\u0103 sisteme: <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/dynamics.microsoft.com\/ru-ru\/\">Microsoft Dynamics CRM<\/a><\/noindex> \u0219i <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.regionsoft.ru\/\">RegionSoft CRM<\/a><\/noindex>. Solu\u021bia Microsoft se integreaz\u0103 bine pentru orice sarcin\u0103, dar aceast\u0103 integrare, dup\u0103 cum s-a dovedit, necesit\u0103 mul\u021bi bani, deoarece CRM\/ERP este universal pentru normele interna\u021bionale, iar \u00een Rusia exist\u0103 multe specificit\u0103\u021bi \u0219i, ca urmare, modific\u0103ri pentru care trebuie s\u0103 pl\u0103te\u0219ti companiile partenere. C\u00e2nd e\u0219ti o mic\u0103 afacere \u0219i \u00ee\u021bi dai seama de amploare, pare c\u0103 te vor zdrobi acum. Sau poate starea mea era \u00een ton cu carantina. <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/dynamics.microsoft.com\/ru-ru\/\">Microsoft Dynamics CRM<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 o solu\u021bie interesant\u0103, care \u00een sine este aproape ERP (exist\u0103 \u0219i separat\u0103), dar am impresia c\u0103 aceasta este o poveste pentru companii mari sau pentru afaceri interna\u021bionale. M-am \u00eent\u00e2lnit pentru prima dat\u0103 cu solu\u021bii de acest tip \u0219i sunt pl\u0103cut surprins.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u0218i aici, cum nu e de mirare, <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.regionsoft.ru\/\">RegionSoft CRM<\/a><\/noindex> Acoper\u0103 bine nevoile \u00een special ale micilor afaceri (cred c\u0103 \u0219i ale celor medii \u0219i mari, dar ce s\u0103 spunem despre ei \u2013 s\u0103 ne g\u00e2ndim \u00eent\u00e2i la noi\u2026), fiind simplificat, clar conectat \u00eentre module \u0219i incluz\u00e2nd totul: KPI, stoc, produc\u021bie, c\u00e2teva aspecte din contabilitatea financiar\u0103, gestionarea proiectelor, contabilitate \u00een mai multe valute, cas\u0103 de marcat, carduri de fidelitate \u0219i altele. Pe scurt, are totul \u2013 absolut tot ce po\u021bi g\u0103si \u00eentr-un sistem modern de afaceri. Adev\u0103rat, totul este accesibil doar \u00een versiunea \u201esuperioar\u0103\u201d, care cost\u0103 mai mult dec\u00e2t configura\u021bia de baz\u0103 \u2013 dar poate c\u0103 unor oameni le ajung \u0219i versiunile mai pu\u021bin elaborate, probabil. \u00cens\u0103, la final, este semnificativ mai ieftin dec\u00e2t Microsoft \u2013 asta este un lucru, \u0219i este perfect adaptat pentru afacerile ruse\u0219ti, f\u0103r\u0103 conectori (dar poate c\u0103 unele lucruri sunt cu unele ajust\u0103ri, cred \u2013 \u00eenc\u0103 nu am ajuns acolo). Ceea ce mi-a lipsit (av\u00e2nd \u00een vedere c\u0103 ne \u00eendrept\u0103m spre universalitate) este gestionarea personalului \u2013 pare c\u0103 exist\u0103 KPI, planificare \u0219i fi\u0219\u0103 pentru angajat, dar nu exist\u0103 un sistem de contabilizare a resurselor umane. Apropo, aceasta este o reclama\u021bie general\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Probabil c\u0103 aici a\u0219 include \u0219i <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/freshoffice.co.nz\/\">FreshOffice<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 acesta evolueaz\u0103 de asemenea spre universalitate, de\u0219i are unele func\u021bionalit\u0103\u021bi mai reduse.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Aceast\u0103 ramur\u0103 de evolu\u021bie spre ERP mi se pare cea mai logic\u0103 \u0219i corect\u0103 pentru sistemele CRM \u2013 micile \u0219i mediile afaceri au nevoie de solu\u021bii solide \u0219i universale.<\/p>\n<h3>Mai degrab\u0103, un portal corporativ cu func\u021bii CRM<\/h3>\n<p>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/unlimited.bitrix24.tech\/\">Bitrix24<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 este o poveste foarte complicat\u0103 \u00een lumea CRM, un adev\u0103rat fantom \u0219i metamorf. Dac\u0103 despre celelalte sisteme pot spune c\u0103 sunt CRM-uri cu func\u021bii suplimentare sau super CRM-uri, \u00een ceea ce prive\u0219te Bitrix24, a\u0219 spune c\u0103 este mai degrab\u0103 un portal corporativ cu un modul CRM \u0219i elemente de re\u021bea social\u0103. Sim\u021bi diferen\u021ba? La celelalte trebuie s\u0103 munce\u0219ti, \u00een Bitrix trebuie s\u0103 stai \u0219i s\u0103 controlezi toate aspectele muncii. Pe de o parte, universalitatea aici este la un nivel \u00eenalt, pe de alt\u0103 parte \u2013 toate aceste instrumente ale portalului corporativ distrag de la munc\u0103 \u0219i poate c\u0103 nu se ajunge niciodat\u0103 la CRM.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Apropo, am o veste proast\u0103 pentru voi: versiunea gratuit\u0103 a Bitrix24 este foarte limitat\u0103, iar compania cre\u0219te \u00een mod vizibil \u00een faza de testare a sistemului. Dac\u0103 vorbim serios, dac\u0103 ave\u021bi nevoie de Bitrix24 care s\u0103 nu fie doar un loc unde s\u0103 stoca\u021bi ceva, ci s\u0103 func\u021bioneze a\u0219a cum a fost g\u00e2ndit, atunci ave\u021bi nevoie de planul Echipa sau chiar de Companie. Asta, dac\u0103 cumva v\u0103 g\u00e2nde\u021bi c\u0103 de la zero se poate merge departe.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Dar printre portalurile de corpora\u021bie \u0219i re\u021belele sociale de lucru, acesta este o solu\u021bie puternic\u0103, a\u0219a c\u0103, dac\u0103 accentul vostru este pe comunicarea interioar\u0103, aceasta ar putea s\u0103 vi se potriveasc\u0103.\u00a0<\/p>\n<h3>Probabil, CRM\u2026?<\/h3>\n<p>\nDar ce e cu celelalte? Celelalte au fost \u0219i ele. Din acest grup, voi selecta <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amocrm.ru\/\">amoCRM<\/a><\/noindex>, <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.prostoy.ru\/\">CRM Afaceri U\u0219oare<\/a><\/noindex>, <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/clientbase.ru\/\">Baza de clien\u021bi<\/a><\/noindex>. Acestea sunt sisteme CRM pentru v\u00e2nz\u0103ri, iar amoCRM respect\u0103 strict conceptul de sistem pentru gestionarea clien\u021bilor, iar celelalte dou\u0103 sunt deja pe calea versatilit\u0103\u021bii solu\u021biei \u0219i a nivelului ERP: Simple Business a evoluat pu\u021bin mai mult, iar KB este \u00eenc\u0103 la \u00eenceput. Apropo, amoCRM poate fi \u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u021bit contra cost prin ad-onuri, plug-inuri \u0219i integr\u0103ri, dar pentru mine aceste complexe par scumpe \u0219i complicate \u2014 eu, ca admin de sistem, nu sunt preg\u0103tit moral s\u0103 r\u0103spund pentru un astfel de haos, pl\u0103\u021bile pentru acestea etc.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Se p\u0103rea c\u0103 aceasta este aproape o clas\u0103, cumperi deja CRM-ul t\u0103u \u0219i te potole\u0219ti, Ivan. Dar! Dup\u0103 solu\u021biile enumerate mai sus, nu vreau s\u0103 m\u0103 mul\u021bumesc cu acela\u0219i pre\u021b (sau chiar mai mare).\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Desigur, nu m\u0103 consider cel mai de\u0219tept, a\u0219a c\u0103 am privit listele altora, recenziile, ratingurile. Ce-i drept, am avut impresia c\u0103 90% dintre acestea sunt prostii, pentru c\u0103 \u00een primele locuri nu se afl\u0103 Microsoft, nici amo, nici bitrix24, ci tot felul de CRM-uri care nici m\u0103car nu mi-au fost promovate \u00een publicitate \u00een 5 luni. Le-am privit, am trecut prin prezent\u0103ri de c\u00e2teva ori... Chiar este serios? Pe cine se bazaz\u0103 aceste rankinguri pl\u0103tite \u0219i umflate? Dar, bine, trebuie s\u0103 g\u00e2ndesc cu propriul meu cap.<\/p>\n<p>\u0218i continui s\u0103 g\u00e2ndesc \u0219i s\u0103 analizez. \u00cen fa\u021ba mea sunt op\u021biuni de CRM selectate, care nu sunt CRM-uri, ci mai degrab\u0103 hiper CRM sau ultra CRM. \u0218i aceast\u0103 \u201ehiperfunc\u021bionalitate\u201d reprezint\u0103 o economisire excelent\u0103 pentru companie, deoarece prime\u0219ti totul \u00eentr-un singur loc. Pe de alt\u0103 parte, exist\u0103 riscul de a te confunda, de a te pierde... Mi s-a cerut s\u0103 implementez CRM-ul \u00een timpul carantinei, deoarece este o m\u0103sur\u0103 anti-criz\u0103 genial\u0103, aproape o pastil\u0103 magic\u0103, \u0219i \u00een\u021beleg de ce. DAR! M-am pierdut. Caut o solu\u021bie. 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