{"id":82838,"date":"2020-05-25T13:42:25","date_gmt":"2020-05-25T11:42:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/administrirovanie\/uberite-vashih-detej-ot-nashih-golubyh-ekranov-ili-pochemu-nelzya-pokupat-yandeks-stancziyu-dlya-rebyonka"},"modified":"2020-05-25T13:42:25","modified_gmt":"2020-05-25T11:42:25","slug":"uberite-vashih-detej-ot-nashih-golubyh-ekranov-ili-pochemu-nelzya-pokupat-yandeks-stancziyu-dlya-rebyonka","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/sk\/blog\/administrirovanie\/uberite-vashih-detej-ot-nashih-golubyh-ekranov-ili-pochemu-nelzya-pokupat-yandeks-stancziyu-dlya-rebyonka","title":{"rendered":"Upracte svoje deti od na\u0161ich modr\u00fdch obrazoviek, alebo pre\u010do by ste nemali kupova\u0165 Yandex.Stanicu pre die\u0165a","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"

Pred pribli\u017ene dvoma t\u00fd\u017ed\u0148ami som sa obr\u00e1til na technick\u00fa podporu Yandexu s ot\u00e1zkou t\u00fdkaj\u00facou sa filtr\u00e1cie vide\u00ed v detskom re\u017eime.<\/p>\n

Pravdupovediac, my\u0161lienka obr\u00e1ti\u0165 sa oh\u013eadom nevhodn\u00e9ho obsahu pre deti sa objavila u\u017e sk\u00f4r, ale ako to u\u017e b\u00fdva \u2014 odkladal som to na nesk\u00f4r.<\/p>\n

Navy\u0161e \u2014 ve\u010f je to Yandex! On lep\u0161ie vie, \u010do si chcel n\u00e1js\u0165.<\/p>\n

Ako sa uk\u00e1zalo \u2014 nie lep\u0161ie.<\/p>\n

\"Upracte
\n
\nUpozor\u0148ujem na ikonu detsk\u00e9ho re\u017eimu v pravom hornom rohu.
\n<\/a><\/noindex>
\nT\u00fato obrazovku \u2014 o neslu\u0161nom jazyku a obsahu 18+ som videl, ke\u010f som sa pok\u00fa\u0161al pusti\u0165 die\u0165a\u0165u video s prechodom kr\u00e1snej hry od MS, mimochodom \u2014 hra je 6+.<\/p>\n

Samozrejme sa na\u0161li aj in\u00e9 mo\u017enosti, ale pocit ostal.<\/p>\n

Trochu pozadia \u2014 pre\u010do som sa vlastne rozhodol obr\u00e1ti\u0165 na TPA.<\/p>\n

Die\u0165a (7 rokov) nie je cudzie po\u010d\u00edta\u010dom a gadgetom, ale ani nie je ich fanatikom.<\/p>\n

M\u00e1 rado kreslenie a zvy\u010dajne, pomocou Alice \u2014 pozeraj\u00fac na monitor, sa sna\u017e\u00ed zopakova\u0165 to, \u010do ho u\u010dia na workshopoch, po\u010d\u00fava hudbu, tancuje a spieva. <\/p>\n

V\u017edy sa s technikou spr\u00e1vne zaobch\u00e1dza a ak vznikne nejak\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka, \u010dasto sa sna\u017e\u00ed samostatne zisti\u0165 nejasn\u00e9 veci. Samozrejme, my ako rodi\u010dia to v\u017edy vysvetl\u00edme a povieme, ale die\u0165a m\u00e1 z\u00e1ujem aj o in\u00fd n\u00e1zor, \u010do je v z\u00e1sade spr\u00e1vne. Ale, ako sa uk\u00e1zalo \u2014 nie v tomto pr\u00edpade.<\/p>\n

Osobn\u00fd \u010das a osobn\u00fd priestor die\u0165a\u0165a by mali by\u0165 a zavret\u00e9 dvere na hodinu-dve za de\u0148 ma \u00faplne neznepokojovali \u2014 pozer\u00e1 rozpr\u00e1vky, kresl\u00ed \u2014 \u010do m\u00f4\u017ee by\u0165 zl\u00e9?<\/p>\n

K\u00fdm neprist\u00fapila a nepovedala \"boj\u00edm sa\".<\/p>\n

Narazila niekde na hororov\u00e9 pr\u00edbehy, ktor\u00e9 by nemali pozera\u0165 ani niektor\u00ed dospel\u00ed. Mo\u017eno Alice nespr\u00e1vne rozpoznala dopyt, mo\u017eno nie\u010do povedali kamar\u00e1tky \u2014 a toto je v\u00fdsledok.<\/p>\n

\"Upracte
\n
\nK\u00fazeln\u00e9 video v detskom re\u017eime priamo od Yandexu \u2014 z jeho videohostingu, pravda?
\nPo pozret\u00ed \"toho\" p\u00e1r min\u00fat som sa rozhodol bez odkladu obr\u00e1ti\u0165 na TPA \u2014 ve\u010f tak\u00fdto chaos v detskom re\u017eime je neprijate\u013en\u00fd a d\u00fafaj\u00fac, \u017ee chlapci \"len trochu nastav\u00ed filtre\". Ale \u010dl\u00e1nok by neexistoval, keby to bolo tak jednoduch\u00e9.<\/p>\n

Predbehnem \u2014 aby ste nemuseli \u010d\u00edta\u0165 dlh\u00fa korespondenciu s TPA.
\nV dvoch slov\u00e1ch: filtre neexistuj\u00fa. My (Yandex) pova\u017eujeme, \u017ee v\u0161etko je v poriadku.<\/p>\n

Die\u0165a uvid\u00ed v\u0161etko, k \u010domu nebolo n\u00fatene (moder\u00e1tormi alebo nahr\u00e1va\u010dmi vide\u00ed) stanoven\u00e9 vekov\u00e9 obmedzenie. Pre YouTube a Yandex, ktor\u00e9 poskytuj\u00fa hlavn\u00fd obsah na stanicu, to znamen\u00e1, \u017ee takmer ka\u017ed\u00e9 video je dostupn\u00e9, preto\u017ee preuploaduj\u00fa ak\u00e9ko\u013evek video, bez toho, aby sa nam\u00e1hali nastavi\u0165 obmedzenia. Telev\u00edzne spravodajsk\u00e9 kan\u00e1ly na hostingoch s\u00fa v\u0161etky dostupn\u00e9 (aj ke\u010f je najvy\u0161\u0161\u00ed \u010das u\u017e nastavi\u0165 16+ pre spr\u00e1vy).<\/p>\n

Nie je ani filtrovanie pod\u013ea k\u013e\u00fa\u010dov\u00fdch slov dopytu.<\/p>\n

dohoda s TPP<\/b>
\n 2020-04-07 13:37:40, Ivan
\nT\u00e9ma dopytu: In\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka
\nOt\u00e1zka oh\u013eadom: Filtrovanie videa v detskom re\u017eime
\nDobr\u00fd de\u0148!
\nV nastaveniach stanice je aktivovan\u00fd detsk\u00fd re\u017eim, ale filtrovanie, pokia\u013e ch\u00e1pem, sa vykon\u00e1va len na z\u00e1klade k\u013e\u00fa\u010dov\u00fdch slov.
\nAko v\u00fdsledok \u2014 na obrazovke sa \u010dasto zobrazuje video, ktor\u00e9 je pre sedemro\u010dn\u00e9ho chlapca jednozna\u010dne \"\u0161ialen\u00e9\". Tak\u00fdto obsah sa pravidelne objavuje na YouTube, aj na yandex.video.
\nPros\u00edm, povedzte mi, ako m\u00f4\u017eeme vyrie\u0161i\u0165 tento probl\u00e9m.<\/p>\n

\u00fat, 7. apr\u00edla 2020, 17:03 Yandex.Support
\nDobr\u00fd de\u0148, Ivan!
\nPredov\u0161etk\u00fdm, pros\u00edm, po\u010fme sa uisti\u0165, \u017ee ste nastavili re\u017eim filtrovania v pr\u00edslu\u0161nej sekcii aplik\u00e1cie \"Yandex\": menu (\u229e) -> \"Zariadenia\" -> \"\u00da\u010det\" -> \"Re\u017eim vyh\u013ead\u00e1vania\".
\nJe to spr\u00e1vne?
\nV takom pr\u00edpade pros\u00edm upresnite, na akom zdroji sa prehr\u00e1vaj\u00fa vide\u00e1?
\nM\u00f4\u017eete, pros\u00edm, poskytn\u00fa\u0165 pr\u00edklad tak\u00e9ho videa?
\n\u010cak\u00e1m na va\u0161u odpove\u010f.<\/p>\n

2020-04-07 14:44:36, Ivan
\nDobr\u00fd de\u0148.
\nPrv\u00e1 fotografia \u2014 v\u00fdsledok pokusu o spustenie doktora Housea z domovskej obrazovky (odmietnutie). Teda, detsk\u00fd re\u017eim je zapnut\u00fd.
\nA \u010falej \u2014 v\u0161etky ostatn\u00e9 dopyty.
\nSamostatn\u00e1 \u017eiados\u0165 \u2014 pros\u00edm, objasnite, pre\u010do po\u017eiadavka na video s k\u013e\u00fa\u010dov\u00fdm slovom ‘zabitie(a)’ v\u00f4bec funguje v detskom re\u017eime.
\n\/\/\u043f\u0440\u0438\u043c. \u0442\u0443\u0442 \u044f \u043f\u0440\u0438\u043b\u043e\u0436\u0438\u043b \u043f\u0430\u0447\u043a\u0443 \u0444\u043e\u0442\u043e\u0433\u0440\u0430\u0444\u0438\u0439<\/p>\n

\u00fat, 7. apr\u00edla 2020, 18:32, Yandex.Support
\nIvan, \u010fakujem za kontrolu a fotografie!
\nAby sme mohli podrobnej\u0161ie presk\u00fama\u0165 ot\u00e1zku, pre\u010do sa v detskom re\u017eime sprac\u00favaj\u00fa tak\u00e9to dopyty, pros\u00edm upresnite, ak\u00e9 pr\u00edkazy ste zadali Alise.<\/p>\n

2020-04-07 15:56:27, Ivan
\nn\u00e1zov s\u00faboru \u2014 pr\u00edkaz (alebo v\u00fdsledok)
\n01_IMG_20200407_172234<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 \u201ealisa, n\u00e1jdi na internete video Ori and the Blind Forest\u201c
\n02_IMG_20200407_172219<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 v\u00fdsledok predch\u00e1dzaj\u00faceho dopytu
\n03_IMG_20200407_172158<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 video 1 predch\u00e1dzaj\u00faceho dopytu
\n04_IMG_20200407_172224<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 video 1 predch\u00e1dzaj\u00faceho dopytu
\n05_IMG_20200407_172105<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 \u201ealisa, zapni doktora Housea\u201c
\n06_IMG_20200407_172533<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 \u201eAlisa, n\u00e1jdi na internete video prank hrozn\u00fd\u201c
\n07_IMG_20200407_172837<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 \u201eAlisa, n\u00e1jdi na internete video vra\u017edenia\u201c (dopyt)
\n08_IMG_20200407_172907<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 \u201eAlisa, n\u00e1jdi na internete video vra\u017edenia\u201c (v\u00fdsledok)
\n09_IMG_20200407_172933<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 video 1 predch\u00e1dzaj\u00faceho dopytu
\n10_IMG_20200407_172933<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 video 2 predch\u00e1dzaj\u00faceho dopytu
\n11_IMG_20200407_172351<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 \u201eAlisa, n\u00e1jdi na internete video momo\u201c
\n12_IMG_20200407_172428<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 video 1 z predch\u00e1dzaj\u00faceho dopytu
\n13_IMG_20200407_172944<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 foto inform\u00e1ci\u00ed o stanici
\nrozdelil pod\u013ea \u201edopytov\u201c, s\u00fabory premenoval pre pohodlie a prilo\u017eil k e-mailu e\u0161te raz.
\n\/\/\u043f\u0440\u0438\u043c. \u043e\u0444\u043e\u0440\u043c\u0438\u043b \u0441\u0441\u044b\u043b\u043a\u0430\u043c\u0438 \u043d\u0430 \u0444\u043e\u0442\u043e<\/p>\n

\u00fat, 7. apr. 2020, 20:33 Yandex.Support
\nIvan, \u010fakujem, \u017ee ste premenovali fotografie a ozna\u010dili pr\u00edkazy a v\u00fdsledky.
\nPreniesol som v\u0161etky inform\u00e1cie zodpovedn\u00fdm \u0161pecialistom. Budeme potrebova\u0165 nejak\u00fd \u010das na to, aby sme zistili pr\u00ed\u010dinu vzniknutej situ\u00e1cie a presk\u00famali, pre\u010do Alisa sprac\u00fava pr\u00edkazy a zobrazuje tak\u00e9to v\u00fdsledky.
\nAkon\u00e1hle budem ma\u0165 novinky, spoj\u00edm sa s vami!<\/p>\n

2020-04-12 15:24:41, Ivan
\nDobr\u00fd de\u0148! M\u00e1te spr\u00e1vy oh\u013eadom mojej ot\u00e1zky?<\/p>\n

ne, 12. apr. 2020 o 18:49, Yandex.Support
\nDobr\u00fd de\u0148, Ivan!
\n\u017dia\u013e, zatia\u013e \u017eiadne novinky, na\u0161i \u0161pecialisti e\u0161te pracuj\u00fa na va\u0161ej ot\u00e1zke.
\nUr\u010dite v\u00e1m nap\u00ed\u0161em, ke\u010f budem ma\u0165 nov\u00e9 inform\u00e1cie!<\/p>\n

2020-04-20 17:3:17, Ivan
\nDobr\u00fd de\u0148! Pred dvoma t\u00fd\u017ed\u0148ami som sa obr\u00e1til s ot\u00e1zkou t\u00fdkaj\u00facou sa funkcie, ktor\u00fa tvrd\u00edte, \u017ee m\u00e1te ako z\u00e1kladn\u00fa, teda predvolene dostupn\u00fa na aktiv\u00e1ciu a pou\u017e\u00edvanie.
\nDetinsk\u00fd re\u017eim m\u00e1te dokonca aj v reklame \u2014 ned\u00e1vno som od v\u00e1s dostal promo, kde vo ve\u013ek\u00fdch p\u00edsmen\u00e1ch p\u00ed\u0161e \u201e0+\u201c, \u010do (ako sa uk\u00e1zalo) nezodpoved\u00e1 realite.
\nPo\u017eadovan\u00e9 materi\u00e1ly (hlasov\u00e9 pr\u00edkazy, screenshoty at\u010f.) som poskytol.
\nPros\u00edm, vysvetlite mi \u2014 pre\u010do sa moja ot\u00e1zka rie\u0161i tak dlho?<\/p>\n

po, 20. apr. 2020, 20:51 Yandex.Support
\nDobr\u00fd de\u0148, Ivan!
\n\u010eakujeme, \u017ee ste n\u00e1s informovali o tejto situ\u00e1cii.
\nV s\u00fa\u010dasnosti tento re\u017eim filtruje obsah tak\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom, \u017ee neumo\u017e\u0148uje zobrazenie tvrd\u00fdch vide\u00ed alebo vide\u00ed so sexu\u00e1lnym obsahom.
\nVa\u0161e pripomienky som odovzdal \u0161pecialistom. Budeme pracova\u0165 na zlep\u0161en\u00ed detinsk\u00e9ho re\u017eimu.<\/p>\n

2020-04-20 18:6:47, Ivan
\nO tejto situ\u00e1cii som informoval pred dvoma t\u00fd\u017ed\u0148ami. Teraz sa p\u00fdtam, pre\u010do sa ot\u00e1zka rie\u0161i tak dlho.<\/p>\n

po, 20. apr. 2020, 21:42 Yandex.Support
\nIvan, \u00e1no, m\u00e1te pravdu.
\nSvojim posl\u00e1n\u00edm som chcel upozorni\u0165 na to, \u017ee je pre n\u00e1s va\u0161e stanovisko d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9. V\u0161etky inform\u00e1cie u\u017e boli odovzdan\u00e9 zodpovedn\u00fdm \u0161pecialistom.
\nV s\u00fa\u010dasnosti detsk\u00fd re\u017eim funguje t\u00fdmto sp\u00f4sobom, ale zaznamenali sme va\u0161u po\u017eiadavku na vylep\u0161enie filtr\u00e1cie obsahu v tomto re\u017eime.
\n\u017dia\u013e, nem\u00f4\u017eem v\u00e1m poveda\u0165, kedy to bude implementovan\u00e9, ale v\u0161etko zaznamen\u00e1vame a sna\u017e\u00edme sa to uskuto\u010dni\u0165 v bud\u00facnosti.<\/p>\n

2020-04-20 18:46:11, Ivan
\nTo je skvel\u00e9, ale pre\u010do vid\u00edm teraz \u0161t\u00edtok 0+, ak v skuto\u010dnosti nefunguje?<\/p>\n

2020-04-20 19:15:43, Yandex.Support
\nIvan, porozpr\u00e1vam sa o tejto ot\u00e1zke s kolegami. Akon\u00e1hle dostanem odpove\u010f, skontaktujem sa s vami.
\nPros\u00edm, po\u010dkajte na m\u00f4j e-mail.<\/p>\n

ut, 21. apr. 2020 o 15:26, Yandex.Support
\nI\u013eja, \u010fakujem za trpezlivos\u0165.
\nVide\u00e1 z pr\u00edkladov, ktor\u00e9 ste uv\u00e1dzali, s\u00fa moment\u00e1lne pova\u017eovan\u00e9 za pr\u00edpustn\u00e9 pre rodinn\u00fd re\u017eim.
\nTeraz pracujeme na pr\u00edsnej\u0161om filtrovan\u00ed pre detsk\u00fd re\u017eim.
\n\/\/\u0442\u0443\u0442 \u044f \u0443\u0436\u0435 \u0418\u043b\u044c\u044f \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n

2020-04-21 12:52:12, Ivan
\nDovo\u013ete mi objasni\u0165 \u2014 k\u00fdm s\u00fa pre 0+ pova\u017eovan\u00e9 vide\u00e1 z pr\u00edkladov?
\nNen\u00e1jdol som pr\u00edsnej\u0161ie obmedzenia (ako s\u00fa teraz nastaven\u00e9) \u2014 teda, pod\u013ea reklamy, to je 0+ re\u017eim.
\nVo feder\u00e1lnom z\u00e1kone 436-FZ s\u00fa presne op\u00edsan\u00e9 vekov\u00e9 klasifik\u00e1cie a pre 0+ s\u00fa vulgarizmy, n\u00e1silie a horory jednozna\u010dne zak\u00e1zan\u00e9.
\nOd m\u00f4jho prv\u00e9ho dotazu ubehli dva t\u00fd\u017edne a teraz p\u00ed\u0161ete v mene Yandexu, \u017ee to je pr\u00edpustn\u00e9?
\nAk si Yandex dovo\u013euje ignorova\u0165 Z\u00e1kon, m\u00f4\u017eem si dovoli\u0165 ne\u017eiada\u0165, ale po\u017eadova\u0165, aby sa s touto ot\u00e1zkou okam\u017eite zaobch\u00e1dzalo.
\nYandex m\u00e1 presne jeden de\u0148 od odoslania m\u00f4jho e-mailu na opravu detsk\u00e9ho re\u017eimu pod\u013ea mojich uveden\u00fdch pr\u00edkladov.
\nAk nebude \u017eiadna oprava \u2014 nasleduj\u00fa moje s\u0165a\u017enosti a \u010dl\u00e1nky do Roskomnadzoru, Sportloto, Pikabu, Habr a telev\u00edzneho kan\u00e1lu RenTV.
\n\u010eakujem za pozornos\u0165, \u010das be\u017e\u00ed.<\/p>\n

ut, 21. apr. 2020, 17:49 Yandex.Support
\nI\u013eja, rozumiem v\u00e1m. Bohu\u017eia\u013e, v tak kr\u00e1tkych term\u00ednoch sa ur\u010dite ned\u00e1 upravi\u0165 zlo\u017eit\u00fd proces filtr\u00e1cie obsahu. Ale poslal som v\u00e1\u0161 e-mail zodpovedn\u00fdm. Nap\u00ed\u0161em, ako bud\u00fa novinky!<\/p>\n

21. apr. 2020, 17:55, Ivan
\nP\u00e1ni, mali ste dve t\u00fd\u017edne.
\nPo \u010dom ste mi ozn\u00e1mili, \u017ee tento obsah je pr\u00edpustn\u00fd. \u017dia\u013e, ale ja (a feder\u00e1lny z\u00e1kon) s vami nes\u00fahlas\u00edme.
\n\u010caka\u0165 e\u0161te \u010fal\u0161ie dva t\u00fd\u017edne?) \u010eakujem, u\u017e som po\u010dkal.
\n\u010cas som uviedol, ostatn\u00e9 z\u00e1vis\u00ed od v\u00e1s.
\n\/\/\u0434\u0443\u043c\u0430\u044e, \u0447\u0438\u0442\u0430\u044f \u044d\u0442\u0443 \u0441\u0442\u0430\u0442\u044c\u044e \u0432\u0430\u043c \u0443\u0436\u0435 \u0441\u0442\u0430\u043b\u043e \u043f\u043e\u043d\u044f\u0442\u043d\u043e, \u0447\u0442\u043e \u0440\u0435\u0437\u0443\u043b\u044c\u0442\u0430\u0442\u0430 \u043d\u0435\u0442<\/p>\n

A nie, to nie je s\u0165a\u017enos\u0165. Na osobn\u00e9 probl\u00e9my sa d\u00e1 s\u0165a\u017eova\u0165, ale probl\u00e9my s psychikou m\u00f4\u017eu vznikn\u00fa\u0165 u ka\u017ed\u00e9ho n\u00e1hodn\u00e9ho die\u0165a\u0165a, ktor\u00e9 vie hovori\u0165 s Yandex.Stanicou.<\/p>\n

D\u00fafam, \u017ee osvetlenie probl\u00e9mu pom\u00f4\u017ee zlep\u0161i\u0165 filtr\u00e1ciu YS a \u017ee rodi\u010dia bud\u00fa vedie\u0165 o nebezpe\u010dnej hra\u010dke.<\/p>\n

A \u00e1no, ur\u010dite nap\u00ed\u0161em na RKN.<\/p>\n

UPD: Odpove\u010f Yandexu v koment\u00e1roch<\/a><\/noindex>
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