{"id":35619,"date":"2019-10-31T22:05:22","date_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:05:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/durov-ne-imeet-nikakogo-otnosheniya-k-ton\/"},"modified":"2019-10-31T22:05:22","modified_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:05:22","slug":"durov-ne-imeet-nikakogo-otnosheniya-k-ton","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/sl\/blog\/administrirovanie\/durov-ne-imeet-nikakogo-otnosheniya-k-ton","title":{"rendered":"Durov nima nobene povezave s TON","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Durov nima nobene povezave s TON\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/371410d7b8697cc52fc1f051e2723ad8.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nNedavno je TechCrunch <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2019\/06\/10\/telegram-ton-liquid-crypto\/\">objavilo<\/a><\/noindex> po\u010detak prodaje 'gramova' 10. jula na japanskoj berzi Liquid. \u010cudno, ali svet je poverovao u potpuno izmi\u0161ljenu pri\u010du o finansijskom instrumentu Telegram.<\/p>\n<h2>Epigraf<\/h2>\n<p>\nVeliki mediji \u010desto objavljuju glasine (informacije iz proverenih izvora), ali takvu vi\u0161edeljnu pri\u010du kao \u0161to je sa TON-om, izgra\u0111enu isklju\u010divo na curenju informacija bez ikakvih zvani\u010dnih podataka, vi\u0161e ne\u0107ete prona\u0107i.<\/p>\n<p>Da, mogla je pro\u0107i vest o Apple automobilu. Ali niko nije pisao da \u0107e kompanija predstaviti taj automobil na prole\u0107e, ve\u0107 je razvijen logotip za volan, objava se odla\u017ee za jesen, u novi tip motora tajno su se ulagali nema\u010dki i francuski automobilski giganti, prednarud\u017ebine \u0107e po\u010deti na sajmu u Japanu i druge.<\/p>\n<p>Ova pri\u010da nije da bi za\u0161titila svakog od prevaranata. Optimizam imam, ali ne toliko. Zato je ova pri\u010da o postistini i novinarstvu, o marketingu i manipulaciji, o RBK, 'Komersant', 'Vedomosti', The Bell, TechCrunch i svim ostalima.<br \/>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"habracut\"><\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<h2>\u010casovnica<\/h2>\n<p>\nVra\u0107am se na kriptovalutu Telegram. Li\u010dno sam\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/ttttt.me\/groks\/501\">od po\u010detka<\/a><\/noindex>\u00a0pristupio informacijama o TON-u s velikim skepticizmom. Ali, da bih vam objasnio naslov, poku\u0161a\u0107u da rekonstruiram celu kronologiju doga\u0111aja.<\/p>\n<p>21. decembra 2017. godine (na datum kada je Pavel\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/vk.com\/durov\/SolisInvicti\">isti\u010de<\/a><\/noindex>\u00a0Dan zimskog solsticija) prvi put se pojavilo pominjanje TON-a \u2014 YouTube kanal Z\u039eFIR\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=aM03fKFTMYk\">je objavil<\/a><\/noindex>\u00a0video sa navodnom najavom blok\u010dejn sistema Telegram. Uve\u010de istog dana o pojavi videa\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/id77777\/posts\/10154846872521076\">poro\u010dal<\/a><\/noindex>\u00a0biv\u0161i zaposleni u 'VKontakte' Anton Rozenberg. Zastanimo na ovom trenutku detaljnije.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Ruskojezi\u010dni YouTube kanal Z\u039eFIR osnovan je 11. maja 2015. godine. Objavio je tri videa: dva o TON-u i jedan o hakovanju bankomata. Od prole\u0107a 2018. godine <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UC8i0U7TbxV39MtHQ19VtwSg\/about\">YouTube kanal<\/a><\/noindex>, <noindex>splet<\/noindex> in <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/t.me\/zefir_news\">Telegram kanal.<\/a><\/noindex>\u00a0'Zefira' je zapostavljen. Kreatora 'Zefira' nije mogu\u0107e prona\u0107i.<\/li>\n<li>U opisu videa o TON-u nije navedeno ko i u koje svrhe je napravljen. Tamo pi\u0161e da je nekako 'procurio' Anton Rozenberg. Za dodatne informacijedata je veza na uklonjeni prethodni sajt Z\u039eFIR (<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20180307124626\/http:\/\/zefir.site:80\/ton-telegram-open-network\">web arhiva<\/a><\/noindex>).<\/li>\n<li>Anton Rozenberg, koji je pustio video, postao je prili\u010dno poznat me\u0111u ruskojezi\u010dnom publikom Telegrama nakon\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/meduza.io\/feature\/2017\/09\/18\/byvshiy-top-menedzher-vkontakte-suditsya-s-bratyami-durovymi\">poznatog konflikta<\/a><\/noindex>\u00a0sa bra\u0107om Durov i kompanijom LLC '<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/vk.com\/wall1_2004359\">Telegraf<\/a><\/noindex>', u \u010dijem je rezultatu zaklju\u010den\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/vc.ru\/flood\/27942-anton-rozenberg-i-telegraf-zaklyuchili-mirovoe-soglashenie\">mirni sporazum<\/a><\/noindex>.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>9. oktobra 2018. godine na video o projektu TON\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/leevandia.com\/about\/news\/livandiya-entertejnment-snyala-videorolik-dlya-proekta-pavla-durova-ton-telegram-open-network.html\">izjavila<\/a><\/noindex>\u00a0svoja prava je preuzela ruska filmska produkcija '<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/leevandia.com\/\">Liviandia Entertainment<\/a><\/noindex>Pripadnost videa ovoj studiji veoma je sli\u010dna istini, jer\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ilya.perekopsky.7?lst=100023069194948%3A1044348315%3A1545746431\">Ilija Perekopski<\/a><\/noindex>(potpredsednik Telegrama, o kojem \u0107e biti re\u010di u nastavku) jo\u0161 od 2010. godine (ili ranije)\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/vk.com\/note99016_9959652\">je u kontaktu<\/a><\/noindex>\u00a0sa izvr\u0161nim direktorom filmske kompanije \u201eLivadija Entertainment\u201c \u2014\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/lis.producer\">Ivanom Lopat\u0438\u043d\u043e\u043c<\/a><\/noindex>.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>Ilija Perekopski je suosniva\u010d agregatora nebankarskih kreditnih organizacija\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/blackmoonfg.com\/\">Blackmoon Financial Group<\/a><\/noindex>, koji je 2017. godine\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/ru.bitcoinwiki.org\/wiki\/Blackmoon_Crypto\">organizovao ICO<\/a><\/noindex>\u00a0in\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/vimeo.com\/user11772182\">i naru\u010dio nekoliko reklamnih spotova<\/a><\/noindex>\u00a0od filmske kompanije \u201eLivadija Entertainment\u201c. Usput, spotovi Blackmoon i TON sli\u010dni su po stilu, samo \u0161to TON ima glas kao Steve Taylor iz edukativnih videa YouTube kanala\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCsXVk37bltHxD1rDPwtNM8Q\">Kurzgesagt<\/a><\/noindex>.<\/li>\n<li>I pored svega, veoma je \u010dudno \u0161to je video iz nepublikovanog projekta TON, a kasnije i njegov tehni\u010dki dokument, dospeo u ruke Rozemberga. Mnogi su po\u010deli da misle da je to marketin\u0161ki trik od Telegrama.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Prvo medijum koje je po\u010delo da pi\u0161e o ovome bilo je sajt Cointelegraph. Slede\u0107eg dana nakon objavljivanja videa o TON-u, ova informacija\u00a0<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/cointelegraph.com\/news\/exclusive-telegram-to-release-blockchain-platform-native-cryptocurrency\">je dobila nove detalje<\/a><\/noindex>\u00a0iz nepoznatog izvora:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>kripto valuta \u0107e se zvati Gram;<\/li>\n<li>bi\u0107e integrisana u popularne messenger-e;\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>platforma TON \u0107e imati lagane nov\u010danike.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\nSve to je stvorilo talas prevarantskih skupljanja novca. Ve\u0107 23. decembra, Pavel Durov je objavio tvit u kojem je upozorio da Telegram objavljuje svoja zvani\u010dna saop\u0161tenja samo na telegram.org, kao i da je sve ostalo, verovatno, prevara.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en_US\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Attention: Telegram publishes its official announcements only at <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/ePcweVcGCP\">https:\/\/t.co\/ePcweVcGCP<\/a><\/noindex>. Everything else is most likely scam.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Pavel Durov (@durov) <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/durov\/status\/944360557318205440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">23. decembar 2017.<\/a><\/noindex><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en_US\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Otkrili smo nekoliko prevarantskih sajtova kao \u0161to su <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/Ku3rq9Y5Po\">https:\/\/t.co\/Ku3rq9Y5Po<\/a><\/noindex> \u2013 molimo vas da budete oprezni.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Pavel Durov (@durov) <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/durov\/status\/944364429747130370?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">23. decembar 2017.<\/a><\/noindex><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nU samo jednom danu, nekoliko prevaranata je brzo napravilo sajtove za la\u017enu prodaju tokene Gram. Postoji sumnja da su neki od njih ve\u0107 bili spremni za ovo i znali su o detaljima projekta.<\/p>\n<p>\nKrajem decembra 2018. godine, mnogi veliki kripto kanali ruskog interneta <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/ttttt.me\/DeCenter\/1754\">za\u010deli<\/a><\/noindex> su po\u010deli da \u0161ire glasine o TON-u. Popularni mediji, kao \u0161to su <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2018\/01\/08\/telegram-open-network\/\">TechCrunch<\/a><\/noindex>, <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/technology\">Bloomberg<\/a><\/noindex>, <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2018\/03\/04\/technology\/telegram-initial-coin-offering.html\">The New York Times<\/a><\/noindex>, \u00ab<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vedomosti.ru\/technology\/articles\/2018\/01\/10\/747299-telegram-visa-mastercard\">Vedomosti<\/a><\/noindex>\u00bb i mnogi drugi \u2014 sa clickbait naslovima i insajdima od \u201emnogobrojnih izvora\u201c.<\/p>\n<p>Pre godinu dana nisam naveo nikakva imena i \u010dak nisam ostavio linkove. Ali s obzirom na to da se ni\u0161ta nije promenilo, \u017eelim da vam poka\u017eem <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vedomosti.ru\/technology\/articles\/2018\/01\/22\/748482-telegram-zayavok\">izvanredan primer manipulacije informacijama<\/a><\/noindex> od strane \u201eVedomosti\u201c.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/ttttt.me\/groks\/538\">Zapis iz Groks, 22. januara 2018.<\/a><\/noindex><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Postfaktum ali \u00abfake news\u00bb v mednarodnih informacijskih vojnah sta postala obi\u010daj. Vendar pa je zaskrbljujo\u010de, ko ti dve besedi postaneta stil najstarej\u0161e doma\u010de medijske blagovne znamke. \u0160e posebej ob upo\u0161tevanju, da ta blagovna znamka zagovarja pristno novinarstvo in ponosno asociira z njim.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bbICO Telegram je zbral prijave v vi\u0161ini 3,8 milijarde dolarjev\u00ab \u2014 ali sem samo jaz tisti, ki ta naslov smatra za \u010dist klikbejt, ob upo\u0161tevanju pomanjkanja uradnih informacij o tem? Mislite, da lahko odgovorimo s tem, da so pri tej novici verodostojni viri? Ampak zakaj niti Bloomberg, niti TechCrunch, niti drugi, ki obravnavajo to temo in se sklicujejo na neke ruske vlagatelje, ne pi\u0161ejo v tako odlo\u010dni \u00bbPast Perfect\u00ab obliki?<\/p>\n<p>Naslov ni najpomembnej\u0161i. V\u010deraj je Durov na svojem Twitterju zapisal: \u00bb\u010ce vidite ali prejmite ponudbe za 'nakup Gramov', nas obvestite na @notoscam (Antiscam)\u00ab. Kaj se pa dogaja naprej?<\/p>\n<p>Na\u0161e medije v svojem \u010dlanku izre\u017eejo iz citata vse besede povezane s \u00bbscam\u00ab. Izkazalo se je, da gospod Durov preprosto prosi vse, naj poro\u010dajo o ponudbah za nakup Gramov. Preobrat. Novinarji sklepajo o morebitnem nastanku trga preprodaje \u017eetonov.<\/p>\n<p>To \u0161e ni vse, omenjal sem izjave, kot je ta: \u00bbPublika Telegrama je trenutno 150 milijonov ljudi, do januarja 2022 pa naj bi dosegla 1 milijardo\u00ab. Ampak to zagotovo niso rezultati testov v Cosmopolitan ali postavljanje ciljev v Biznis Mladost!<\/p>\n<p>Kjer <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/ru\/users\/groks\/\" class=\"user_link\">Groks<\/a><\/noindex>, ampak kje je avtoritativna poslovna \u010dasopisna hi\u0161a Rusije s svojimi kontakti po vsem svetu, se spra\u0161ujete? Ampak ne prosim, da mi verjamete. To so le #mislivsluh in vesel bom, \u010de se motim. \u010ceprav je bil bluff peticije na Change.org glede blokade Telegrame s strani istega medija razkrit lani. Na splo\u0161no pa bi \u017eelel vsem za\u017eeleti ve\u010d skepti\u010dne misli in dvomov. Osebni filter zdravega razuma v dobi postfaktuma in \u00bbfake news\u00ab je pomembnej\u0161i kot kdajkoli.<\/p>\n<p>Na koncu bom citiral nedavno izjavo Vladimira Sungorkina, generalnega direktorja Izdajateljskega doma \u00bbKomsomolskaja pravda\u00ab: \u00bbNe obstaja niti en dokaj priljubljen \u010dasopis ali priljubljeno medij v Ruski federaciji, ki ne bi objavljal pla\u010danih \u010dlankov. Ne obstaja.\u00ab<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Nekaj rusko govore\u010dih medijev <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.vedomosti.ru\/technology\/articles\/2018\/02\/16\/751315-abramovich-telegram\">pisali<\/a><\/noindex> nepotrjene informacije o investicijah v TON s strani velikih poslovne\u017eev Rusije, in \u010de malo pregledate po njihovih imenih na spletu, nih\u010de od vlagateljev, razen Davida Jakobashvilija, ni potrdil svoje vloge v TON.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b>David Jakobashvili for RBC, February 16, 2018<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Yes, I invested $10 million of my personal funds in Telegram in January. I might also participate in the Telegram ICO, which will take place in March, I haven't decided yet.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Almost every day, there was an article about the Telegram cryptocurrency from reputable publications, but it's important to mention that none of them made it to the <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/telegram.org\/press\">official press release list<\/a><\/noindex>, which is approved by the Telegram team.<\/p>\n<p>\nAt the beginning of January 2018, \"leaked\" \"white papers\" of TON started appearing, among which were several obvious fakes. <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/icorating.com\/upload\/whitepaper\/gNQ7e9z3lCGi519Wz8mmC0Kg8aA0goeZKAQ802vo.pdf\">The 23-page White Paper<\/a><\/noindex>, created on December 21, 2017, and <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/denull.ru\/telegram\/ton-tech.pdf\">the 132-page Tech Paper<\/a><\/noindex>, created on December 3, 2017, were taken by the media as authentic documents.<\/p>\n<p>In particular <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.fontanka.ru\/2018\/01\/15\/131\/\">\"Fontanka\"<\/a><\/noindex> simply takes and cites opinions about the authenticity of TON from Fyodor Skuratov from Combot, Anatoly Kaplan from Forklog, and other people not connected with the Telegram team, leaving no doubt about the fakeness of this story for the reader.<\/p>\n<p>However, the document that allegedly comes from Nikolai Durov looks very strange and actually represents an abstract description of all existing blockchain technologies, with no specifics regarding their implementation in Telegram.<\/p>\n<p>Updating formal specifications, translations between different cryptocurrencies, support for micropayment channels and off-chain transfers, self-healing vertical blockchain mechanism, instant hypercubical routing, and many other super-duper nanotechnologies, and I repeat, no connection to Telegram.<\/p>\n<p>Note, this documentation is very far from what <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/core.telegram.org\/mtproto\">the Telegram team writes<\/a><\/noindex>. But I must admit, I am not an expert in blockchain, so I want to quote <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2018\/2\/21\/17037606\/telegram-open-network-app-ico-cryptocurrency-ton\">a quote<\/a><\/noindex> from The Verge by Matthew Green, a cryptographer and professor at Johns Hopkins University regarding TON:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\"The white paper reads as if someone collected the most ambitious ideas from a dozen projects on the internet and said: 'Let's do all of this, but better!'. It seems unattainable, at least at the scale they are aiming for.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I have one more very good argument for doubting the viability of the TON White Paper. It's the time. I suggest you compare the authors' plans with today's reality.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Durov nima nobene povezave s TON\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/2758f01076501f7e99221a6011c2a715.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Februarja 2018 so \u00abVedomosti\u00bb objavili novico, da je Pavel Durov poro\u010dal Komisiji za vrednostne papirje in borzo ZDA (SEC) o pridobitvi 850 milijonov USD z ICO od 81 vlagatelja. Informacije se pomno\u017eujejo, vsi se sklicujejo na nek dokument na spletni strani SEC. Nih\u010de pa ne omeni, da prisotnost tega dokumenta v EDGAR nikakor ne dokazuje vpletenosti v to SEC. Nikakor!<\/p>\n<p>Pojasnim: EDGAR je \u2014 Elektronski sistem za zbiranje, analizo in pridobivanje podatkov \u2014 grobo povedano, javni register prijav komisiji, ki jih lahko po\u0161lje kdorkoli. Zato je zelo neprofesionalno trenutno iz tega oblikovati konkretne zaklju\u010dke. O EDGAR-ju sem dodatno povpra\u0161al na Redditu v <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/investing\/comments\/7y3iyp\/is_it_valid_documents_for_sec\/\">\/r\/investing<\/a><\/noindex> in <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/StockMarket\/comments\/7y5owq\/is_it_valid_documents_for_sec\/\">\/r\/stockmarket<\/a><\/noindex>.<\/p>\n<p>Ko se je vse to dogajalo, sem se odlo\u010dil izvesti eksperiment. Pisal sem TechCrunchu, da imata informacije, vse te zadeve. Obrnil se je na mene Jon Russell. Vpra\u0161al me je, ali sem vlagatelj, in po nekaj urah objavil <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2018\/02\/16\/telegram-ico-850-million\/\">\u010dlanak<\/a><\/noindex>. TechCrunch je bil prvi med tujimi mediji, ki je pisal o prijavi v EDGAR.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/ttttt.me\/groks\/582\">Zapis iz Groks, 18. februar 2018<\/a><\/noindex><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Kako je Ilya Pestov na neki to\u010dki postal potencialni vlagatelj Telegrama.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Durov nima nobene povezave s TON\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/e8e300650de7dbcdadcf0e6c23cacb06.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Aprila 2018 <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/incrussia.ru\/news\/ilya-perekopskij-zanyal-post-vitse-prezidenta-telegram\/\">cel kup<\/a><\/noindex> <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/roem.ru\/04-04-2018\/269244\/billions-season-2\/\">vrsto<\/a><\/noindex> <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/meduza.io\/news\/2018\/04\/04\/byvshiy-vitse-prezident-vkontakte-ilya-perekopskiy-ustroilsya-v-telegram\">znanih<\/a><\/noindex> <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rbc.ru\/business\/04\/04\/2018\/5ac4efc19a79473c34f1b3c0\">medijev<\/a><\/noindex> je poro\u010dal, da je nekdanji podpredsednik podjetja \u00abVKontakte\u00bb in soustanovitelj Blackmoon Financial Group Ilya Perekopsky postal podpredsednik za razvoj poslovanja Telegrama.<\/p>\n<p>Maja 2018, ko je aktivnost pu\u0161\u010danja o TON upadla, je Telegram-kanal \u00ab10 dolarjev Buffet\u00bb <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/t.me\/buff_10\/1467\">stopil v kontakt<\/a><\/noindex> na Twitterju z navedeno podpredsednikom Telegrama Ilyo Perekopskim in od njega prejel povratne informacije:<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Durov nima nobene povezave s TON\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/6e674430cc8d325bf23827ad28bf99c7.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<i>\u017dal je ra\u010dun @10dollarov blokiran, ne morem dati povezave na ta pogovor<\/i><\/p>\n<p>V tem \u010dasu so Buffetovci v zasebnem kanalu zbirali nalo\u017ebe za \u00abProjekt T\u00bb \u2014 iz njihovih objav je bilo o\u010ditno, da je govora o Telegramu. Ilya je potrdil dejstvo zbiranja denarja \u00abBuffetovcev\u00bb za TON s svojim komentarjem. Da bi se o tem prepri\u010dal, je avtor Telegram-kanala \u00abZlato Boroda\u010da\u00bb napisal Ilyi in <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/t.me\/golden_borodutch\/2727\">potvrdio<\/a><\/noindex> udele\u017ebo \u00abBuffetovcev\u00bb v zaprti prodaji TON.<\/p>\n<p>Prav tako je avtor kanala \u00abZlato Boroda\u010da\u00bb sklenil, da je gospod Perekopsky res podpredsednik Telegrama. Citiram del njegove <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/ttttt.me\/golden_borodutch\/2729\">objave<\/a><\/noindex>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Najprej, Durov je \u017ee leta 2003 registriral domeno Telegram na e-po\u0161tni naslov Perekopskega. Drugi\u010d, Ilja mi je poslal e-po\u0161to z delovnega naslova na domeni telegram.org. Ne mislim, da bi imel tak\u0161no e-po\u0161to, \u010de ne bi delal v Telegramu. In ne mislim, da bi mediji popravili svojo napoved po tem, ko je Ilja postal podpredsednik, \u010de ne bi bil res podpredsednik. To dokazuje Iljin naslov v Telegramu.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Vendar pa obstoj e-po\u0161te na domeni iz neznanih \u010dasov in objave v medijih ni\u010desar ne potrjujete. Prav tako ne vemo, ali je ta e-po\u0161tni naslov aktiven \u2014 morda je to bilo spogledovanje. \u0160e enkrat \u017eelim spomniti, da je leta 2014 Pavel Durov obto\u017eeval Perekopskega zaradi poskusa <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/roem.ru\/07-04-2014\/111638\/u-vk-i-ucp-razgorelis-yuridicheskie-boi-mailru-vstal-na-storonu-durova\/\">ukrasti<\/a><\/noindex> Telegram. A kar je najpomembneje, ne Durov ne Telegram nista izdala tiskovnih sporo\u010dil glede imenovanja Perekopskega.<\/p>\n<p>Na <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ilya.perekopsky.7\">Facebook<\/a><\/noindex> Ilja Perekopski je ozna\u010den kot \"<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/telegrampage\">VP v Telegram App<\/a><\/noindex>\". A \u010de obi\u0161\u010dete to stran, boste opazili, da na njej ni oznake za preverjanje, v nasprotju z vsemi uradnimi predstavni\u0161tvi Telegrama na Twitterju. In na splo\u0161no izgleda zelo \u010dudno. Poleg povezav do napovedi Telegrama, ki izhajajo z velikim zamikom, na njej obstajajo nesorazmerni videi z neumnostmi:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Durov nima nobene povezave s TON\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/5c1b0b85e33782695be11a20021fcc85.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\n\u0160e vedno premalo razlogov za dvom o polo\u017eaju gospoda Perekopskega? Eden od sledilcev Groks mi je delil zgodbo o tem, kako je poro\u010dal o <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/t.me\/joinchat\/AAAAAEgl6jk5rKDkIQRKCg\">zaprtem kanalu<\/a><\/noindex> \"10$ Buffet\" in <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/t.me\/enterneko1\">Enterneko<\/a><\/noindex> v Antiscam. Obe kanali sta bili prepovedani, vendar <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/t.me\/Enterneko_Invest\/3\">potvrdu<\/a><\/noindex> obstajajo samo od avtorjev enega od njiju.<\/p>\n<p>Izgleda, da je Telegram prepovedal kanal investitorjev TON, s katerimi se pogovarja sam podpredsednik Telegrama? Se mi zdi to \u010dudno?<\/p>\n<p>\nZ zmanj\u0161anjem zanimanja za kriptovalute na splo\u0161no ni bilo dolgo \u010dasa velikih novic o TON. Tema je bila oskrbovana z zanimanjem s strani blockchain skupnosti, vendar veliki mediji o tem niso poro\u010dali.<\/p>\n<p>\u010ceprav obstajajo izjeme v osebnosti The Bell \u2014 na primer, njihova <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/thebell.io\/skolko-stoit-gram-budushhuyu-kriptovalyutu-durova-otsenili-pochti-v-30-mlrd\/\">objava<\/a><\/noindex> \"Koliko stane Gram: prihodnjo kriptovaluto Durova so ocenili skoraj na 30 milijard dolarjev.\"<\/p>\n<p>In aprila 2019 se je informacijsko polje spet pretreslo: Pavel Durov je sklenil partnerstvo z nem\u0161kim finan\u010dnim gigantom Wirecard.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Durov nima nobene povezave s TON\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/34d46e3ea9649dd2788c12f2d964c0d5.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Durov nima nobene povezave s TON\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/5aaa104be1110262c3f021a8d55bc467.png\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<br \/>\nNenavadno je, da tudi tak\u0161ni stebri doma\u010de medijske sfere, kot sta \"Kommersant\" in RBK, niso imeli \u010dasa, da bi natan\u010dno preu\u010dili <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wirecard.com\/company\/press-releases\/wirecard-and-telegram-open-network-infrastructure-developer-ton-labs-enter-partnership\">sporo\u010dilo za javnost<\/a><\/noindex> Wirecard. Saj ni bilo nobene besede o gospodu Durovu, govorilo se je samo o TON Labs. <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/tonlabs.io\/main\">A TON Labs<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 to je nekaj nejasnega, kar je ustvaril nek Aleksander Filatov. Prav tako je znano, da je s projektom povezan zgoraj omenjeni Fjodor Skuratov, ustanovitelj Combota.<\/p>\n<p>\n24. maja 2019 je na enem izmed kanalov o TON-u objavljena povezava <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/test.ton.org\/download.html\">test.ton.org\/download.html<\/a><\/noindex>, kjer so objavljeni:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/test.ton.org\/ton-test-liteclient-full.tar.xz\">ton-test-liteclient-full.tar.xz<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 izvorna koda lahkega odjemalca za testno mre\u017eo TON;<\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/test.ton.org\/ton-lite-client-test1.config.json\">ton-lite-client-test1.config.json<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 konfiguracijska datoteka za povezavo s testno mre\u017eo;<\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/test.ton.org\/README.txt\">README<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 informacije o sestavljanju in zagonu odjemalca;<\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/test.ton.org\/HOWTO.txt\">HOWTO<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 navodila po korakih za ustvarjanje pametne pogodbe s pomo\u010djo odjemalca;<\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/test.ton.org\/ton.pdf\">ton.pdf<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 posodobljen dokument (z 2. marcem 2019) s tehni\u010dnim pregledom mre\u017ee TON;<\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/test.ton.org\/tvm.pdf\">tvm.pdf<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 tehni\u010dni opis TVM (TON Virtual Machine, virtualni stroj TON);<\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/test.ton.org\/tblkch.pdf\">tblkch.pdf<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 tehni\u010dni opis blokchaina TON;<\/li>\n<li><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/test.ton.org\/fiftbase.pdf\">fiftbase.pdf<\/a><\/noindex> \u2014 opis novega jezika Fift, namenjenega za ustvarjanje pametnih pogodb v TON-u.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\n\u010cez dva dni The Bell na svojem kanalu objavi <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/thebell.io\/durov-rasskazal-investoram-ob-uspehe-testirovaniya-blokchejn-platformy-telegram\/\">novica<\/a><\/noindex> z naslovom \u00abDurov je investitorjem sporo\u010dil o uspehu testiranja blokchain platforme Telegram\u00bb z naslednjim povzetkom: \u00abPrve uradne informacije o testiranju platforme kriptovalut Telegram\u00bb. Sledi <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/thebell.io\/kak-eto-rabotaet-kak-ustroen-blokchejn-pavla-durova-i-mozhno-li-na-nem-zarabotat\/?utm_source=telegram.me&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_campaign=blokcheyn-ot-bratiev-durovyh--odin-iz-sa\">materijal<\/a><\/noindex> \u00abBlokchain platforma Durova: naprava, denar in mo\u017enosti\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p>Vendar pa obstajajo tudi resne raziskovalne naloge. Na primer, <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/golden-borodutch\/%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80-%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BD-d8e1096b4fb0\">tehni\u010dni \u010dlanek<\/a><\/noindex> Nikita Kolmogorov, avtor zgoraj omenjenega kanala <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/ttttt.me\/golden_borodutch\">\u00abZlato Boroda\u010da\u00bb,<\/a><\/noindex>. Preu\u010dil je vse dokumente in v svoji zna\u010dilni geekovski maniri naredil podroben pregled testnega blokchaina TON. Na kratko \u2014 to je \u00absamo na hitro zmatek okoli nod\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p>Tudi jaz sem \u017eelel vsaj be\u017eno pregledati navodila, a sem se ustavil na \u0161esti strani, ko sem videl besedo \u00aboftenly\u00bb. Tudi z mojim skromnim znanjem angle\u0161\u010dine razumem, da je to enako kot videti v dokumentu besedo \u00abnjihov\u00bb ali \u00abnjen\u00bb. To opa\u017eanje, seveda, ne predstavlja stilisti\u010dne analize besedila, vendar je tovrstna napaka s strani ekipe Telegram zelo dvomljiva.<\/p>\n<p>Vendar mnogi \u0161e vedno verjamejo, da je 24. maja pri\u0161lo do novega uhajanja informacij, za vsemi tem pa stoji ali spretni intrigant ali preprosti Durov, ekipa katere je \u017ee odcedila vse, kar se je dalo.<\/p>\n<h2>Apoteoza<\/h2>\n<p><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Ni nobenega uradnega potrjenja o povezanosti TON z ekipo Telegram.<\/li>\n<li>Obstaja nejasna zgodba o samoimenovanem podpredsedniku Telegrama Ilji Perekopskem.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li>Obstajajo \u0161tevilni mediji v ru\u0161\u010dini in TechCrunch, ki poro\u010dajo o vsaki informaciji o TON v iskanju ekskluzivnosti, pri tem pa pozabljajo na dejstva.<\/li>\n<li>Je <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/ttttt.me\/groks\/951\">neomajna<\/a><\/noindex> <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/ru\/post\/453714\/\">vera<\/a><\/noindex> ljudi v to, da je molk znak strinjanja. Da, \u010de Pavel Durov ne zanika novic o TON, potem TON obstaja.<\/li>\n<li>Malokdo pomisli, da bi gospod Durov lahko namerno obdr\u017eal govorice o TON, ki so mu prinesle stotine omemb Telegrama v \u0161tevilnih medijih po vsem svetu.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\nNobenih sklepov ne bo. Tukaj se delam novinarja, prava novinarstva pa je nepristransko ugotavljanje dejstev. Izvorne presoje in sklepi na njihovi osnovi morajo ostati v glavah bralcev.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b>John Evans, kolumnist TechCrunch<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Prava te\u017eava ni v la\u017enih novicah, temve\u010d v tem, da so ljudje prenehali iskati resnico.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u010cudovita misel iz prav tako \u010dudovitega \u010dlanka, ki ga je TechCrunch nekako izbrisal. Zabavno naklju\u010dje. Hvala bogu, <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/ttttt.me\/groks\/583\">moj kanal<\/a><\/noindex> na Telegramu in <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20180313135642\/https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2018\/02\/18\/fake-news-is-not-the-real-problem\/\">web arhiva<\/a><\/noindex> vse se spomnijo.<\/p>\n<p>\n<i>Najlep\u0161a hvala uporabniku Telegrama z nikom <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/t.me\/@Kiku_Reise\">Kiku<\/a><\/noindex>. Opravil je <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/telegra.ph\/TON--skam-ili-fejk-12-27\">veliko delo<\/a><\/noindex>, kar je osnova za ta \u010dlanek. 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