{"id":39080,"date":"2019-10-31T22:27:44","date_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:27:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/otus-nashi-lyubimye-oshibki\/"},"modified":"2019-10-31T22:27:44","modified_gmt":"2019-10-31T19:27:44","slug":"otus-nashi-lyubimye-oshibki","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/sl\/blog\/administrirovanie\/otus-nashi-lyubimye-oshibki","title":{"rendered":"OTUS. Na\u0161e ljube napake","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Pred dvema in pol leti smo zagnali projekt Otus.ru in napisal sem <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/habr.com\/ru\/company\/otus\/blog\/324658\/\">ovde u \u010dlanku<\/a><\/noindex>. Rekli bi, da sem se zmotil \u2013 to je \u010disto premalo povedano. Danes bi \u017eelel narediti vmesni pregled in malo spregovoriti o projektu, kaj smo do zdaj dosegli in kaj imamo 'pod pokrovom'. Za\u010del bom morda z napakami tistega \u010dlanka.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"OTUS. Na\u0161e ljube napake\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/3ec64211351e86e161acc6376447fa71.jpg\" style=\"display:block;margin: 0 auto;\" \/><br \/>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"habracut\"><\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<h2>Izobra\u017eevanje \u2013 ali je to o zaposlitvi?<\/h2>\n<p>\nIn ne. To velja za tiste, ki \u017eelijo spremeniti poklic, izobra\u017eevanje pa je za zaposlene na\u010din, da postanejo bolj\u0161i. Kakor nenavadno se morda sli\u0161i, k nam prihajajo, da bi se u\u010dili, da bi postali najbolj\u0161i strokovnjaki. Pred \u0161estimi meseci smo izvedli anketo med na\u0161imi \u0161tudenti, takrat jih je bilo nekaj manj kot 2.500. Postavili smo preprosto vpra\u0161anje: zakaj se u\u010dite pri nas? In le 17% je odgovorilo, da je njihov cilj sprememba zaposlitve. Prevladujo\u010de \u0161tevilo sodelavcev se u\u010di za osebni razvoj, za pridobivanje znanj, zanimajo jih novosti v njihovem poklicu. To mnenje posredno potrjujejo tudi \u0161tevilke o zaposljivosti: organizirali smo tiso\u010de intervjujev, le 350 na\u0161ih \u0161tudentov se je odlo\u010dilo za spremembo zaposlitve v dveh in pol letih obstoja projekta.<\/p>\n<p>Drugi trenutek, v katerem smo se zmotili, je, da lahko sploh zaposlujemo. In ne. Noben izobra\u017eevalni center ni subjekt zaposlitvenega procesa. Ne more vplivati nanj in na tiso\u010de okoli\u0161\u010din, ki vodijo do spremembe zaposlitve. Spremenili smo svojo strategijo in zdaj preprosto priporo\u010damo svoje \u0161tudente podjetjem, podjetja pa svojim \u0161tudentom. Na nek na\u010din smo postali medij na podro\u010dju zaposlovanja v IT, a brez vsiljivosti. Zdaj imamo 68.000 strank (tako tistih, ki se u\u010dijo, kot tistih, ki so kon\u010dale izobra\u017eevanje ali \u0161e niso za\u010dele). To je pribli\u017eno 12% celotnega ruskega IT trga. Poleg tega imamo ve\u010d kot 300 podjetij, ki sodelujejo z nami in objavljajo svoje proste delovne pozicije pri nas. Toda tudi pri tej \u0161tevilki te\u017eko govorimo o zaposlovanju. Preprosto pomagamo povezati ljudi in podjetja, in to po\u010dnemo brezpla\u010dno.<\/p>\n<h2>En te\u010daj \u2013 en u\u010ditelj?<\/h2>\n<p>\nKo smo za\u010deli, smo imeli idejo, da za izdelavo odli\u010dnega te\u010daja potrebujemo le izku\u0161enega praktikanta iz produkcije, ki ga prepri\u010damo, da oblikuje te\u010daj. Takrat se je te\u010daj zdel kot prenos njegovega znanja. Imel sem celo metaforo: \"\u010dez dan programira aplikacijo, zve\u010der pa vam o tem pripoveduje\". Zelo dale\u010d sem bil od resni\u010dnosti. Izkazalo se je, da je te\u010daj zelo kompleksna struktura, ki se razlikuje glede na podro\u010dje. Poleg seminarjev (beri: predavanj) je potrebnih \u0161e prakti\u010dnih vaj (to pomeni \u2013 delavnic) in doma\u010dih nalog, poleg tega u\u010dnih materialov in podobno. Izkazalo se je, da mora na te\u010daju hkrati delati ekipa u\u010diteljev, da so dobri predavatelji, so pa tudi tisti, ki vodijo delavnice, in pomo\u010dniki, ki preverjajo doma\u010de naloge. Izkazalo se je, da jih je treba u\u010diti in u\u010diti na razli\u010dne na\u010dine. Kon\u010dno se je izkazalo, da je iskanje teh ljudi in prodajanje njihovega pou\u010devanja te\u017eje, kot jih iskanje in vodenje v na\u0161e vrste.<\/p>\n<p>Zato smo ustanovili svojo \u0161olo. Da, ustvarili smo \u0161olo u\u010diteljev, in u\u010dimo veliko ve\u010d, kot ostane pri nas. Poklic u\u010ditelja je zahtevna, energetsko potratna naloga, in le vsak \u010detrti, ki zaklju\u010di na\u0161e usposabljanje, \"izide\" pred ob\u010dinstvom. Nismo na\u0161li bolj\u0161ega na\u010dina za izbiro u\u010diteljev kot jih potopiti v proces izobra\u017eevanja. V enem ali dveh mesecih \u0161tudija morajo bodo\u010di u\u010ditelji ne le izdelati svoj te\u010daj, temve\u010d tudi pou\u010devati svoje so\u0161olce na prakti\u010dnih vajah. V \u010dasu obstoja projekta smo nau\u010dili u\u010diti 650 oseb, od tega 155 pou\u010duje na\u0161e \u0161tudente. <\/p>\n<h2>Ne bomo imeli veliko te\u010dajev?<\/h2>\n<p>\nKoliko ima tema u IT-u za u\u010denje? Pa, Java, C++, Python, JS. \u0160ta jo\u0161? Linux, PostgreSQL, Highload. Tako\u0111e DevOps, odvojeno mo\u017eemo imati automatizovano testiranje. I to je to. O\u010dekivali smo ovakav broj kurseva i da \u0107e u grupi biti 20-40 ljudi. \u017divot je uneo svoje ispravke. Do sada imamo 65 kurseva, ili kako ih mi nazivamo, proizvoda. I planiramo da se udvostru\u010dimo u narednih godinu i po dana. Svakog meseca pokre\u0107emo 4-6 novih, \u201eispituju\u0107i\u201c potra\u017enju za tehnologijama, programskim jezicima i alatima. Zanimljivo je, ali jo\u0161 uvek nismo uspeli da shvatimo za\u0161to neki kursevi uspevaju, a drugi ne. I\u0161li smo otprilike istim putem kao sa \u0161kolom nastavnika: kreiramo funnel i testiramo potra\u017enju \u201eu akciji\u201c. Tako\u0111e, dobro smo napredovali u oceni popunjenosti grupa: na\u0161a najve\u0107a grupa do sada ima 76 ljudi, ali \u010desto okupljamo 50 i vi\u0161e studenata. Naravno, ne dolaze svi na sve \u010dasove, ali pru\u017eamo mogu\u0107nost da ih gledaju u snimku.<\/p>\n<p>Upravo smo pre\u0161li granicu od 1 000 ljudi. To zna\u010di da u isto vreme obu\u010davamo vi\u0161e od 1 000 studenata, odr\u017eavaju\u0107i do 25 \u010dasova dnevno. Ceo ovaj rad se odvija na na\u0161oj platformi, koju razvijamo sami od trenutka osnivanja projekta. Sada na njoj radi tim od pet osoba, koji se iskreno pretrpuju sa zahtevima za novim funkcionalnostima. Oduvek pridajemo mnogo pa\u017enje kvalitetu u\u010denja, a redovno prikupljamo povratne informacije od studenata. Tokom pro\u0161le godine drasti\u010dno smo pobolj\u0161ali svoje ocene, a sada je prosek za \u010das 4,48 na petostepenoj skali (u pore\u0111enju sa 3,99 pre godinu dana).<\/p>\n<p>Kje pa sem takrat naredil napako? Verjetno v osnovni ideji projekta. \u0160e naprej vabimo na izobra\u017eevanje tiste, ki \u017ee imajo izku\u0161nje v poklicu. \u0160e naprej izvajamo vstopno testiranje, da se tisti, ki ne bodo zmogli, vnaprej pripravijo na te\u010daj. \u0160e naprej vabimo k pou\u010devanju samo praktike, ki ne govorijo praznih besed, temve\u010d natan\u010dne in koristne stvari. \u0160e naprej se osredoto\u010damo na prakso, projekte, proizvode in na vse na\u010dine razvijamo skupnost okoli nas. Pred dvema in pol letoma nisem mogel verjeti, da si bo kdorkoli kupil te\u010daj za te\u010dajem pri nas, zdaj pa je to dejstvo: 482 ljudi (kar je pribli\u017eno 13 % vseh \u0161tudentov) je pri nas kupilo ve\u010d kot en te\u010daj, rekordni obiskovalec pa je oseba, ki je pri\u0161la na kar 11 te\u010dajev. \u0160e naprej ne zagotavljamo zaposlitve, ne obljubljamo, da se boste \u00bbpoklic nau\u010dili v dveh tednih\u00ab, ne zapeljemo z miti\u010dnimi pla\u010dami. In zelo nas veseli, da je tu, na Habr\u00e9, \u017ee ve\u010d kot 12.000 ljudi, ki ste z nami. 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