{"id":71699,"date":"2020-02-27T20:53:59","date_gmt":"2020-02-27T17:53:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/kak-konkurenty-mogut-legko-zablokirovat-vash-sajt"},"modified":"2020-03-03T16:14:14","modified_gmt":"2020-03-03T13:14:14","slug":"kak-konkurenty-mogut-legko-zablokirovat-vash-sajt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/sl\/blog\/administrirovanie\/kak-konkurenty-mogut-legko-zablokirovat-vash-sajt","title":{"rendered":"Kako lahko konkurenti zlahka blokirajo va\u0161o spletno stran","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"

Nedavno smo se suo\u010dili sa situacijom kada su neki antivirusni programi (Kaspersky, Quttera, McAfee, Norton Safe Web, Bitdefender i nekoliko manje poznatih) po\u010deli blokirati na\u0161 sajt. Istra\u017eivanje situacije dovelo me je do razumevanja da je veoma lako zavr\u0161iti na listi blokiranih, dovoljno je nekoliko prijava (\u010dak i bez obrazlo\u017eenja). Detaljnije \u0107u opisati problem u nastavku.<\/p>\n

Problem je prili\u010dno ozbiljan, jer skoro svaki korisnik danas ima instaliran antivirus ili vatrozid. Blokada sajta od strane velikog antivirusa kao \u0161to je Kaspersky mo\u017ee u\u010diniti sajt nedostupnim za veliki broj korisnika. Hteli bismo da skrenemo pa\u017enju javnosti na ovaj problem, jer otvara ogromne mogu\u0107nosti za prljave metode borbe sa konkurencijom.
\n\"Kako
\n<\/a><\/noindex>
\nNe\u0107u dati link ka samom sajtu ili navoditi firmu, kako to ne bi bilo shva\u0107eno kao neka vrsta reklame. Napomenu\u0107u samo da sajt posluje u skladu sa zakonom, firma ima komercijalnu registraciju, a svi podaci su dostupni na sajtu. <\/p>\n

Nedavno smo primili pritu\u017ebe od klijenata da na\u0161 sajt blokira antivirus Kaspersky kao phishing. Vi\u0161estruka testiranja s na\u0161e strane nisu otkrila nikakve probleme na sajtu. Podnio sam zahtev putem obrasca na sajtu Kaspersky-a za la\u017eno pozitivno delovanje antivirusa. Kao rezultat toga, dobijen je odgovor:<\/p>\n

Proverili smo link koji ste poslali.
\nInformacije na linku predstavljaju pretnju gubitku korisni\u010dkih podataka, la\u017eno pozitivno delovanje nije potvr\u0111eno.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\nNije dato nikakvih potvrda da sajt predstavlja pretnju. U daljim zapa\u017eanjima dobijen je slede\u0107i odgovor:<\/p>\n

Proverili smo link koji ste poslali.
\nOvaj domena<\/a> je dodat u bazu zbog prijava korisnika. Link \u0107e biti isklju\u010den iz antiphishing baza, ali \u0107e biti uklju\u010den monitoring u slu\u010daju ponovljenih prijava. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\nOdavde postaje jasno da je dovoljna osnova za blokadu sam podatak o postojanju bilo kakvih prijava. Pretpostavlja se da se sajt blokira ako je bilo vi\u0161e od odre\u0111enog broja prijava, a nikakvo potvr\u0111ivanje prijave nije potrebno.<\/p>\n

U na\u0161em slu\u010daju, zlonamerni korisnici su poslali niz prijava. I na\u0161em DC-u, i nekolicini antivirusnih programa, kao i servisima poput phishtank. Na phishtank-u, prijave su uklju\u010divale samo link ka sajtu i informaciju da je sajt phishing. I to je to, nikakve potvrde nisu date. <\/p>\n

Izgleda da je mogu\u0107e blokirati ne\u017eeljene sajtove jednostavnim spamom pritu\u017ebi. Mo\u017eda \u010dak postoje i usluge koje nude ovakve usluge. Ako ih nema, sigurno \u0107e se uskoro pojaviti, s obzirom na jednostavnost dodavanja sajta u baze nekih antivirusnih programa. <\/p>\n

\u017deleo bih da \u010dujem komentare predstavnika Kasperskog. Tako\u0111e, \u017eeleo bih da \u010dujem komentare onih koji su se sami suo\u010dili sa ovakvim problemom i koliko je brzo re\u0161eno. Mo\u017eda bi neko mogao da preporu\u010di pravne metode delovanja u ovakvim situacijama. Za nas je situacija dovela do reputacionih i finansijskih gubitaka, da ne spominjem gubitak vremena na re\u0161avanje problema. <\/p>\n

\u017deleo bih da privu\u010dem \u0161to vi\u0161e pa\u017enje na situaciju, jer svaki sajt je u riziku.<\/p>\n

Dopuna.
\nU komentarima su dali link na zanimljiv post od HerrDirektora. habr.com\/ru\/post\/440240\/#comment_19826422<\/a><\/noindex> o ovom problemu. Citira\u0107u ga. <\/p>\n

Re\u0107i \u0107u vam vi\u0161e \u2014 da li \u017eelite da za 10 minuta stvorite probleme skoro bilo kom sajtu (osim velikih, poznatih i veoma poznatih)?
\nDobrodo\u0161li na phishtank.
\nRegistrujemo 8-10 naloga (bi\u0107e potrebna samo email adresa za potvrdu), biramo sajt koji nam se svi\u0111a, dodajemo ga iz jednog naloga u bazu phishtanka (da bismo ote\u017eali \u017eivot vlasniku, mo\u017eemo u obrazac za dodavanje staviti neku poruku sa reklamom gej-pornografije sa patuljcima).
\nPreostalim nalozima glasamo za phishing, dok nam ne poru\u010de \"This is phish site!\".
\nGotovo. Sede\u0107emo i \u010dekati. Iako, za dodatno osiguranje uspeha, mo\u017eemo dodati i http:\/\/ i https:\/\/ i sa i bez kose crte na kraju, ili sa dve kose crte. A ako imamo puno vremena, mo\u017eemo dodati i linkove na sajtu. Za\u0161to? Pa, evo za\u0161to:<\/p>\n

Za 6-12 sati Avast se aktivira i uzima podatke odatle. Za 24-48 sati podaci se \u0161ire po raznim \"antivirusima\" \u2014 comodo, bit defender, clean mx, CRDF, CyRadar\u2026 Odakle kasnije povla\u010di podatke prokleti virustotal.
\nNaravno, NIKO ne proverava ta\u010dnost podataka, svima je duboko svejedno.<\/p>\n

I kao rezultat, ve\u0107ina \"antivirusnih\" ekstenzija za pretra\u017eiva\u010de, besplatnih antivirusnih programa i drugog softvera po\u010dinje da se \u017eali na navedeni sajt na razne na\u010dine, od crvenih oznaka, do celih stranica koje tvrde da je sajt izuzetno opasan i da bi prelazak na njega mogao da bude smrtonosan.<\/p>\n

In order to tackle these Augean stables, each of these antivirus programs has to write to technical support. For EACH link! Avast responds quite quickly, while the others simply compile a known list.
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\nConsequently, any software or service relying on virustotal will perpetually indicate that the site is in bad shape. One can hammer away at this miserable resource for a long time and maybe get lucky and escape it. But it\u2019s just as likely that luck won\u2019t be on your side.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

* Among those blocking the site is even the provider fortinet. And we have still not removed the site from some phishing site lists.
\n* This is my first post on Habrahabr. Unfortunately, I was just a reader before, but the current situation motivated me to write a post.
\n
Izvor: habr.com<\/a> <\/p>","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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