{"id":87290,"date":"2020-07-06T19:42:10","date_gmt":"2020-07-06T17:42:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/novosti-interneta\/linus-torvalds-o-problemah-s-poiskom-mejntejnerov-rust-i-rabochih-proczessah"},"modified":"2020-07-06T19:42:10","modified_gmt":"2020-07-06T17:42:10","slug":"linus-torvalds-o-problemah-s-poiskom-mejntejnerov-rust-i-rabochih-proczessah","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/sl\/blog\/news\/linus-torvalds-o-problemah-s-poiskom-mejntejnerov-rust-i-rabochih-proczessah","title":{"rendered":"Linus Torvalds o problemima sa pronala\u017eenjem odr\u017eavatelja, Rustu i radnim procesima","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Na prej\u0161njem virtualnem konferen\u010dnem dogodku &#171;<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/events.linuxfoundation.org\/open-source-summit-north-america\/\">Open Source Summit and Embedded Linux<\/a><\/noindex>&#187; Linus Torvalds<br \/>\n<noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2020\/06\/30\/hard_to_find_linux_maintainers_says_torvalds\/\">razpravljal<\/a><\/noindex> o sedanjosti in prihodnosti jedra Linux v uvodnem govoru z Dirk Hohndelom iz podjetja VMware. Med razpravo je bila izpostavljena tema menjave generacij med razvijalci. Linus je poudaril, da kljub skoraj 30-letni zgodovini projekta, skupnost ni tako stara &#8212; med razvijalci je veliko novih ljudi, ki \u0161e niso dopolnili 50 let. Stari ma\u010dki dejansko starijo in pobelijo, vendar tisti, ki so dolgo vklju\u010den v projekt, praviloma prehajajo od pisanja nove kode k nalogam, povezanih z vzdr\u017eevanjem ali upravljanjem.<\/p>\n<p>Iskanje novih vzdr\u017eevalcev se omenja kot velika te\u017eava. V skupnosti je veliko aktivnih razvijalcev, ki so pripravljeni pisati nov kodo, a malo kdo je pripravljen posvetiti svoj \u010das vzdr\u017eevanju in preverjanju tuje kode.<br \/>\nPoleg profesionalnosti morajo vzdr\u017eevalci u\u017eivati neomejeno zaupanje. Od vzdr\u017eevalcev se zahteva tudi nenehna anga\u017eiranost v procesu in stalno delo &#8212; vzdr\u017eevalec mora biti vedno dostopen, vsak dan prebrati e-po\u0161to in nanjo reagirati. Delo v takih razmerah zahteva veliko samoorganizacije, zato je vzdr\u017eevalcev malo in jih primanjkuje, iskanje novih vzdr\u017eevalcev, ki so sposobni revidirati tujo kodo in usmerjati spremembe vi\u0161jim vzdr\u017eevalcem, postaja eden glavnih izzivov v skupnosti.<\/p>\n<p>Na vpra\u0161anje o eksperimentih v jedru je Linus dejal, da si skupnost razvijalcev jedra zdaj ne more privo\u0161\u010diti nekaterih nori\u0161\u010d, ki so se dogajala v preteklosti. \u010ce je bila prej razvojna pot brez obveznosti, je zdaj od jedra Linux odvisno preve\u010d sistemov.<\/p>\n<p>Na vpra\u0161anje o prenosu jedra na jezike, kot sta Go in Rust, ker obstaja tveganje, da bodo programerji v jeziku C postali podobni dana\u0161njim programerjem v COBOL-u do leta 2030, je Linus odgovoril, da ostaja jezik C med desetimi najbolj priljubljenimi jeziki, vendar se za manj kriti\u010dne podsisteme, kot so gonilniki naprav, preu\u010duje <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=51401\">mo\u017enost<\/a><\/noindex> mo\u017enost zagotavljanja vezij za razvoj na jezikih, kot je Rust. V prihodnosti se pri\u010dakuje ponudba razli\u010dnih modelov za pisanje takih sekundarnih komponent, ki ne bodo omejene na uporabo jezika C.<\/p>\n<p><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=53216\">Namera<\/a><\/noindex> podjetja Apple, da bi v namiznih ra\u010dunalnikih in prenosnikih uporabljalo procesorje ARM arhitekture, je Linus komentiral z upanjem, da bo ta korak pomagal ARM postati bolj dostopen za delovne postaje. V zadnjih 10 letih se je Linus prito\u017eeval, da ni mogel najti ARM-sistema, ki bi bil primeren za razvojni sistem. Tako kot je uporaba ARM-a s strani podjetja Amazon omogo\u010dila napredek te arhitekture v stre\u017eni\u0161kih sistemih, ni izklju\u010deno, da bodo zahvaljujo\u010d dejanjem podjetja Apple \u010dez nekaj let dostopni tudi zmogljivi ra\u010dunalniki ARM, ki jih bo mogo\u010de uporabiti za razvoj. Glede svojega <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=53020\">novega ra\u010dunalnika<\/a><\/noindex> na osnovi procesorja AMD je Linus omenil, da vse deluje normalno, razen hrupnega hladilnika.<\/p>\n<p>Glede dela na jedru je Linus povedal, da je to hkrati dolgo\u010dasno in zanimivo. Dolgo\u010dasno, ker se mora nenehno ukvarjati z rutino odpravljanja napak in urejanjem kode, in zanimivo, ker se mora stalno u\u010diti novih tehnologij, komunicirati z opremo na nizki ravni in nadzorovati vse, kar se dogaja.<\/p>\n<p>O COVID-19 je Linus omenil, da pandemija in izolacijski ukrepi niso vplivali na razvoj, ker so postopki sodelovanja temelji na komunikaciji po elektronski po\u0161ti in oddaljenem razvoju. Med razvijalci jedra, s katerimi sodeluje Linus, nih\u010de ni trpel zaradi oku\u017ebe. 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