Paul Graham: Zvandakadzidza kubva kuHacker News

February 2009

Hacker News yakashandura makore maviri svondo rapfuura. Yakanga yakarongedzerwa kuve chirongwa chakafanana - chikumbiro chekukudza Arc uye nzvimbo yekutsinhana nhau pakati peazvino neamangwana Y Combinator vakatanga. Yakakura uye yakatora nguva yakawanda kupfuura yandaitarisira, asi handizvidembi nokuti ndakadzidza zvakawanda nokushanda pachirongwa ichi.

Kureba

Patakatanga chirongwa ichi muna Kukadzi 2007, traffic yepakati pevhiki yaive ingangoita 1600 zuva nezuva vashanyi vakasiyana. Yakawedzera kusvika pa22000.

Paul Graham: Zvandakadzidza kubva kuHacker News

Mwero wekukura uyu wakakwira zvishoma pane zvatingade. Ndinoda kuona saiti ichikura, nekuti kana saiti yacho isiri kukura zvishoma nezvishoma, ingangove yakatofa. Asi ini handingade kuti isvike saizi yeDigg kana Reddit - zvakanyanya nekuti yaizoderedza hunhu hwesaiti, asiwo nekuti ini handidi kushandisa nguva yangu yese ndichishanda pakuyera.

Ndine matambudziko akakwana neizvi kare. Ndinoyeuka kukurudzira kwekutanga kweHN kwaiva kuedza mutauro mutsva wepurogiramu uye, zvakare, kuedza mutauro wakanga wakatarisa kuedza nekugadzirwa kwemutauro pane kushanda kwayo. Nguva yese iyo saiti yakanonoka, ndakazvichengeta ndichienda nekurangarira yakakurumbira McIlroy uye Bentley quote

Kiyi yekubudirira iri mukunaka kwemhinduro, kwete mukuedza zvese zvinogoneka sarudzo.

uye ndakatsvaga nzvimbo dzine dambudziko dzandaigona kugadzirisa nehushoma hwekodhi. Ndichiri kukwanisa kuchengetedza saiti, mupfungwa yekuchengeta kuita kwakafanana, kunyangwe kukura kwegumi nemana. Ini handizive kuti ndichaita sei kubva zvino zvichienda mberi, asi ini ndichafunga chimwe chinhu.

Aya ndiwo mafungiro angu kune saiti zvachose. Hacker Nhau kuyedza, kuyedza munzvimbo nyowani. Aya marudzi emasaiti kazhinji ane makore mashoma ekare. Kukurukurirana kweInternet sekungove makumi mashoma emakore apfuura, saka isu takangowana chidimbu chezvatichazoona.

Ndosaka ndiri kushivirira paHN. Kana tekinoroji iri nyowani, mhinduro dziripo dzinowanzo tyisa, zvinoreva kuti chimwe chinhu chiri nani chinogona kuitwa, izvo zvinoreva kuti matambudziko mazhinji anoita seasingagoneki haasi. Kusanganisira, netariro, dambudziko rinotambudza nharaunda zhinji: kuparadzwa nekuda kwekukura.

Kuderera

Vashandisi vanga vachinetsekana neizvi sezvo saiti yaingova nemwedzi mishoma yavapo. Kusvika pari zvino kutya uku hakuna chikonzero, asi izvi hazvizogara zvakadaro. Kuderera kwehupfumi idambudziko rakaoma. Asi zvichida solvable; hazvireve kuti hurukuro dzakavhurika nezve "nguva dzose" dzakaurayiwa nekusimuka kwe "nguva dzose" zvichingoreva makumi maviri chete.

Asi zvakakosha kuyeuka kuti tiri kuedza kugadzirisa dambudziko idzva, nokuti zvinoreva kuti tinofanira kuedza chimwe chinhu chitsva uye zvizhinji zvacho hazvishande. Masvondo mashoma apfuura ndakaedza kuratidza mazita evashandisi vane avhareji yepamusoro yekuverenga kuverenga muorenji.[1] Kwakanga kuri kukanganisa. Nenguva isipi tsika yakanga yanyanya kubatana yakakamurwa kuva vane naivo nevasina. Handina kuona kuti tsika dzacho dzainge dzabatana sei kusvika ndaona dzaparadzana. Zvairwadza kuona.[2]

Naizvozvo, mazita eorenji ekushandisa haadzoke. (Ndine urombo nezvazvo). Asi pachange paine dzimwe pfungwa dzinogona kungoputsika mune ramangwana, uye idzo dzinoshanda dzinogona kuita sedzakatyoka sedzisina.

Zvichida chinhu chakanyanya kukosha chandakadzidza nezvekudzikira ndechekuti inoyerwa zvakanyanya muhunhu kupfuura muvashandisi pachavo. Unoda kubvisa hunhu hwakaipa pane kuti ubvise vanhu vakaipa. Kana uri wakamirira kubva kuvanhu kuti vachazvibata zvakanaka, vanowanzoita saizvozvo; uye neimwe nzira.

Kunyange zvazvo, chokwadika, kurambidza mufambiro wakashata kazhinji kazhinji kunobvisa vanhu vakaipa nemhaka yokuti vanonzwa vakaganhurirwa zvisina kufanira kunzvimbo yavanofanira kuzvibata zvakanaka. Iyi nzira yekuvabvisa yakapfava uye pamwe inoshanda kupfuura mamwe.

Zvakajeka zvino kuti iyo yakaputsika windows theory inoshandawo kune veruzhinji nzvimbo. Dzidziso ndeyokuti zviito zviduku zvemaitiro akaipa zvinokurudzira maitiro akaipa: nzvimbo yekugara ine graffiti yakawanda uye mahwindo akaputsika inova nzvimbo iyo humbavha hunowanzoitika. Ndaigara muNew York apo Giuliani akatanga kuchinja kwakaita kuti dzidziso iyi ikurumbire, uye kuchinja kwacho kwaishamisa. Uye ini ndaive mushandisi weReddit pakaitika zvakapesana chaizvo, uye shanduko dzaive dzakanyanya.

Ini handisi kushora Steve naAlexis. Zvakaitika kuReddit zvaisave mhedzisiro yekuregeredza. Kubva pakutanga ivo vaive nemutemo wekudzora spam chete. Mukuwedzera, Reddit yakanga ine zvinangwa zvakasiyana zvichienzaniswa neHacker News. Reddit yaive yekutanga, kwete chirongwa chedivi; vavariro yavo yakanga iri yokukura nokukurumidza sezvinobvira. Sanganisa kukurumidza kukura uye zero kutsigirwa uye iwe unowana mvumo. Asi handifungi kuti vangaita chimwe chinhu chakasiyana kana vakapiwa mukana wacho. Tichifunga nezve traffic, Reddit yakabudirira zvakanyanya kupfuura Hacker News.

Asi zvakaitika kuReddit hazvizoitike kuna HN. Kune miganho yakawanda yemunharaunda yepamusoro. Panogona kuva nenzvimbo dzine mvumo yakakwana uye kune nzvimbo dzine zvazvinoreva, sezvakaita munyika chaiyo; uye vanhu vachazvibata zvakasiyana zvichienderana nekuti varipi, sezvakangoita munyika chaiyo.

Izvi ndazviona mukuita. Ndakaona vanhu vachiyambuka paReddit uye Hacker News vakatora nguva yekunyora pasi shanduro mbiri, meseji inogumbura yeReddit uye imwe yakaderera vhezheni yeHN.

Zvinhu

Kune marudzi maviri makuru ematambudziko ayo saiti yakadai seHacker News inofanira kudzivirira: nyaya dzakaipa uye mhinduro dzakaipa.Uye kukuvadzwa kwenyaya dzakaipa kunoratidzika kunge kushoma. Parizvino, nyaya dzakatumirwa papeji huru dzichiri dzakafanana nedziya dzakatumirwa apo HN yakanga ichangotanga.

Ndakambofunga kuti ndinofanira kufunga nezvemhinduro dzekumisa crap kuoneka pane peji rekutanga, asi handisati ndafanirwa kuzviita kusvika zvino. Ini ndanga ndisingatarisiri kuti peji repamba rirambe rakakura kudaro, uye handisati ndanyatsonzwisisa kuti nei richidaro. Zvichida vashandisi vakangwara chete ndivo vanoteerera zvakakwana kuti vataure uye senge malink, saka mutengo wepamucheto pamushandisi wega wega unoenda kune zero. Kana kuti pamwe peji repamba riri kuzvidzivirira pacharo nekutumira zviziviso nezve izvo zvinopihwa zvariri kutarisira.

Chinhu chine njodzi kune iyo huru peji zvinhu zviri nyore kufarira. Kana mumwe munhu akaratidza dzidziso itsva, muverengi anofanira kuita rimwe basa kuti asarudze kana zvakakodzera kuifarira.Katuni inosetsa inotora nguva shoma. Mazwi mahombe ane misoro ine ruzha zvakaenzana anowana zero nekuti vanhu vanoafarira vasina kana kuaverenga.

Izvi ndizvo zvandinodaidza kuti Nhema Nheyo: mushandisi anosarudza saiti nyowani ine zvinongedzo zvinonyanya kutongwa kunze kwekunge watora matanho ekudzivirira izvi.

Nhau dzeHacker dzine marudzi maviri ekudzivirira zvisina maturo. Mhando dzakawanda dzeruzivo dzisina kukosha dzinorambidzwa sekunze kwenyaya. Mifananidzo yekittens, diatribes vezvematongerwo enyika, nezvimwewo zvinorambidzwa zvakanyanya. Izvi zvinosakura zvakawanda zvisina maturo zvisina basa, asi kwete zvese. Zvimwe zvezvibatanidza zvose hazvina maturo, mupfungwa yokuti ipfupi, uye panguva imwe chete yakakodzera zvinhu.

Hapana mhinduro imwe chete yeizvi. Kana chinongedzo chingori chisina chinhu demagoguery, vapepeti dzimwe nguva vanoiparadza kunyangwe ichienderana nemusoro wekubira, nekuti haina basa neiyo chaiyo chiyero, iyo iyo chinyorwa chinofanira kumutsa kuda kuziva. Kana zvakatumirwa pasaiti zviri zverudzi urwu, saka dzimwe nguva ndinozvirambidza, zvinoreva kuti zvinhu zvese zvitsva paURL iyi zvinongoparadzwa. Kana zita reposvo riine clickbait link, vapepeti dzimwe nguva vanoridzokorora kuti riite chokwadi. Izvi zvinonyanya kukosha kune zvinongedzo zvine mazita anopenya, nekuti zvikasadaro vanovanda "vhoti kana iwe uchitenda mune izvi neizvo" zvinyorwa, inova ndiyo inonyanya kutaurwa yehupenzi husina basa.

Iyo tekinoroji yekubata neakadaro malink inofanirwa kushanduka, sezvo iwo malink pachawo achishanduka. Kuvapo kwemaaggregator kwakatopesvedzera zvavanenge vaunganidza. Mazuvano, vanyori vanonyora zvine hungwaru zvinhu zvinozowedzera traffic pamutengo weaggregator - dzimwe nguva zvinhu chaizvo. Kune mamwe machinjiro akashata senge linkjacking - kuburitsa kudzokororwa kwechinyorwa chemumwe munhu nekuchiburitsa pachinzvimbo chepakutanga. Chimwe chinhu chakadai chinogona kuwana zvakawanda zvekufarira nokuti inochengetedza zvinhu zvakawanda zvakanaka zvaive munyaya yepakutanga; kutaura zvazviri, kana chirevo chacho chichiwedzera kufanana nekunyengedza, ruzivo rwakanyanya rwechinyorwa runochengetwa. [3]

Ini ndinofunga zvakakosha kuti saiti inoramba zvinopihwa ipe nzira yekuti vashandisi vaone zvakarambwa kana vachida. Izvi zvinomanikidza vapepeti kuti vave vakatendeseka uye, zvakangokosha, zvinoita kuti vashandisi vanzwe vaine chivimbo chekuti vachaziva kana vapepeti vari kusavimbika. Vashandisi veHN vanogona kuita izvi nekudzvanya pandima yeshowdead mune yavo mbiri ("ratidza vakafa", chaizvo). [4]

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Tsinhiro dzakaipa dzinoratidzika kuva chinetso chikuru kupfuura mazano akaipa. Nepo mhando yezvinongedzo papeji yekumba haina kunyanya kushanduka, mhando yeavhareji yekutaura yadzikira neimwe nzira.

Kune marudzi maviri makuru ekutaura kwakashata: kushaya hunhu uye kupusa.Pane kupindirana kwakawanda pakati pehunhu huviri uhwu - mashoko akashata anogona kunge akapusawo - asi nzira dzekutarisana nadzo dzakasiyana. Ukasha huri nyore kudzora. Iwe unogona kuseta mitemo inoti mushandisi haafanire kuve nehutsinye uye kana iwe ukavaita kuti vazvibate zvakanaka, saka kuchengetedza hutsinye pasi pekutonga zvinogoneka.

Kuchengeta upenzi huri pasi pesimba kwakaoma, zvichida nokuti upenzi hahusi nyore kusiyanisa. Vanhu vasina tsika vanowanzoziva kuti havana hunhu, nepo mapenzi mazhinji asingazvioni kuti akapusa.

Chimiro chine ngozi zvikuru chetsinhiro youpenzi hachisi chirevo chakareba asi chine mhosho, asi jee reupenzi. Matauriro akareba asi asina kururama haanyanyi kuitika. Pane hukama hwakasimba pakati pemhando yekutaura nehurefu hwayo; kana iwe uchida kuenzanisa hutano hwemashoko panzvimbo dzevanhu vose, chiyero chekutaura kureba chiratidzo chakanaka. Zvingangove zvichikonzerwa nehunhu hwevanhu kwete chero chinhu chakanangana nemusoro uri kukurukurwa. Zvichida upenzi hunongotora chimiro chekuva nepfungwa dzakati wandei pane kuva nepfungwa dzisina kururama.

Pasinei nechikonzero, mashoko oupenzi anowanzova mapfupi. Uye sezvo zvakaoma kunyora tsinhiro pfupi inosiyana nehuwandu hweruzivo rwainopa, vanhu vanoedza kumira pachena nekuedza kusetsa. Chimiro chinonyengetedza zvikuru chetsinhiro dzoupenzi kunofungidzirwa kuva kunyomba, zvichida nemhaka yokuti kutuka ndiyo nzira iri nyore zvikuru yokusetsa. [5] Naizvozvo, chimwe chezvakanakira kurambidza hutsinye ndechekuti inobvisawo mazwi akadaro.

Maonero akashata akafanana nekudzu: vanotora nekukurumidza. Tsinhiro dzine pesvedzero huru zvikuru pane dzimwe tsinhiro kupfuura zvikarakadzo zvemashoko matsva. Kana mumwe munhu akapa chinyorwa chakaipa, hachiite zvimwe zvinyorwa zvakaipa. Asi kana mumwe munhu akaisa benzi rekutaura munhaurirano, zvinotungamira kune toni yemashoko akafanana munzvimbo iyoyo. Vanhu vanopindura majee embeveve nemajee embeveve.

Zvichida mhinduro ndeyekuwedzera kunonoka vanhu vasati vapindura mhinduro, uye kureba kwekunonoka kunofanirwa kuenzana nemhando inofungidzirwa yemhinduro. Ipapo pachava nehurukuro dzeupenzi shoma. [6]

vanhu

Ndakaona kuti dzakawanda dzenzira dzandatsanangura ndedzekuchengetedza: dzinotarisa kuchengetedza hunhu hwesaiti pane kuivandudza. Handifungi kuti ndinorerekera kunyaya yacho. Izvi zvinokonzerwa nechimiro chedambudziko. Nhau dzeHacker dzakaita rombo rakanaka kuti dzitange zvakanaka, saka munyaya iyi inyaya yekuchengetedzwa.Asi ndinofunga kuti musimboti uyu unoshanda kunzvimbo dzine mavambo akasiyana.

Zvinhu zvakanaka pamusoro penzvimbo dzenharaunda zvinobva kuvanhu kwete tekinoroji; tekinoroji inowanzo shanda kana zvasvika pakudzivirira zvinhu zvakaipa kuti zvisaitike. Tekinoroji inogona zvechokwadi kuwedzera nhaurirano. Nested comments, semuenzaniso. Asi ini ndoda kushandisa saiti ine ekare maficha uye akangwara, akanaka vashandisi pane saiti inoyevedza inongoshandisa idiots nematroll.

Chinhu chinonyanya kukosha chinofanira kuitwa nesaiti yenharaunda kukwezva vanhu vainoda sevashandisi vayo. Nzvimbo inoedza kuva yakakura sezvinobvira iri kuedza kukwezva munhu wese. Asi saiti yakanangwa kune imwe mhando yemushandisi inofanirwa kukwezva ivo chete - uye, sezvakakosha, kudzinga vamwe vese. Ndakaedza nehana kuita izvi naHN. Iyo saiti graphic dhizaini iri nyore sezvinobvira uye mitemo yesaiti inodzivirira inoshamisa misoro. Chinangwa ndechekuti munhu mutsva kuHN afarire pfungwa dziri kutaurwa pano.

Iyo yakaderera pakugadzira saiti inonangana chete nemhando chaiyo yemushandisi ndeyekuti inogona kunyanya kukwezva kune avo vashandisi. Ndinonyatsoziva kuti kupindwa muropa neHacker News kunogona kuve sei. Kwandiri, sevashandisi vazhinji, iyi imhando yenzvimbo yeguta. Pandinoda kumbozorora kubva kubasa, ndinoenda kunhandare, sezvandingaita, semuenzaniso, kufamba ndichitevedza Harvard Square kana University Avenue munyika inobatika. [7] Asi nzvimbo iri pane network ine njodzi kupfuura iyo chaiyo. Kana ndikapedza hafu yezuva ndichidzungaira neUniversity Avenue, ndichazviona. Ndinofanira kufamba maira kuti ndisvikeko, uye kuenda kuchitoro chekofi kwakasiyana nekuenda kubasa. Asi kushanyira foramu yepamhepo kunoda kudzvanya kamwe chete uye kunotaridzika zvakafanana nebasa. Unogona kunge uri kutambisa nguva yako, asi hausi kutambisa nguva yako. Mumwe munhu paInternet haana kururama uye iwe unogadzirisa dambudziko racho.

Hacker Nhau zvirokwazvo inzvimbo inobatsira. Ndakadzidza zvakawanda kubva pane zvandakaverenga paHN. Ndakanyora zvinyorwa zvakati kuti zvakatanga semacomments pano. Handidi kuti nzvimbo yacho iparare. Asi ini ndinoda kuve nechokwadi kuti uku hakusi kupindwa muropa netiweki kune kugadzirwa. Ingave njodzi yakaipa sei kukwezva zviuru zvevanhu vakangwara kunzvimbo yekungopedza nguva yavo. Ndinoshuva kuti ndinogona kuva nechokwadi che100% kuti iyi haisi tsanangudzo yeHN.

Ini ndinofunga kupindwa muropa nemitambo uye kushamwaridzana maapps richiri dambudziko risati ragadziriswa. Mamiriro ezvinhu akafanana neakaitika kuChck muma1980s: takagadzira zvinhu zvitsva zvinotyisa zvinopinda muropa uye hatisati tapedza nzira dzekuzvidzivirira kubva mazviri. Tichavandudza pakupedzisira uye iyi ndeimwe yenyaya dzandinoda kutarisa pazviri munguva pfupi iri kutevera.

Notes

[1] Ndakaedza kuisa vashandi nehuwandu hwehuwandu hwehuwandu uye huwandu hwehuwandu hwemashoko, uye huwandu hwehuwandu (kurasa zvibodzwa zvepamusoro) zvinoratidzika kuva chiratidzo chepamusoro chepamusoro. Kunyange zvazvo huwandu hwehuwandu hwemashoko hunogona kunge huri chiratidzo chechokwadi chemashoko akaipa.

[2] Chimwe chinhu chandakadzidza kubva mukuyedza uku ndechekuti kana uchizosiyanisa pakati pevanhu, ita shuwa kuti wazviita nemazvo. Iyi ndiyo mhando yedambudziko uko kukurumidza prototyping isingashande. Muchokwadi, nharo yakatendeseka inonzwisisika ndeyokuti kusiyanisa pakati pemarudzi akasiyana-siyana evanhu kungasava pfungwa yakanakisisa. Chikonzero hachisi chokuti vanhu vose vakafanana, asi kuti zvakaipa kukanganisa uye zvakaoma kudzivisa kukanganisa.

[3] Kana ndaona crude linkjacking posts, ndinotsiva iyo URL neiyo yakakopwa. Saiti dzinowanzo shandisa linkjacking dzinorambidzwa.

[4] Digg inozivikanwa nekushaikwa kwayo kwekuzivikanwa kwakajeka. Mudzi wedambudziko hausi wekuti vakomana vane Digg vanonyanya kuvanza, asi kuti vanoshandisa iyo isiriyo algorithm kugadzira yavo peji remba. Panzvimbo pekubhururuka kubva kumusoro mukuita kwekuwana mamwe mavhoti seReddit, nyaya dzinotanga pamusoro peji uye kusundira pasi nevatsva vanosvika.

Chikonzero chemusiyano uyu ndechekuti Digg inokweretwa kubva kuSlashdot, nepo Reddit inokweretwa kubva Kunonaka/yakakurumbira. Digg is Slashdot nekuvhota pachinzvimbo chevapepeti uye Reddit Inonaka/inofarirwa nekuvhota panzvimbo yemabhukimaki. (Uchiri kukwanisa kuona zvakasara zvekwavakabva mune graphic dhizaini.)

Digg's algorithm inonzwa zvakanyanya kumitambo nekuti chero nyaya inoita kuti iende kumberi peji inyaya nyowani. Izvo zvinozoita kuti Digg ishandise nzira dzakanyanyisa dzekupikisa. Mazhinji ekutanga ane chakavanzika pamusoro pemanomano aaifanira kushandisa mumazuva ekutanga, uye ndinofungidzira chakavanzika chaDigg ndechekuti nyaya dzakanakisa dzinonyatso kusarudzwa nevapepeti.

[5] Nhaurirano pakati peBeavis neButthead yaive yakavakirwa zvakanyanya pane izvi uye pandinoverenga zvakataurwa pane dzakaipa chaizvo masaiti ndinogona kunzwa manzwi avo.

[6] Ndinofungidzira kuti nzira dzakawanda dzekugadzirisa zvirevo zveupenzi hazvisati zvawanikwa. Xkcd yakashandisa nzira yakangwara pane yake IRC chiteshi: usarege chero munhu aite chinhu chimwe chete kaviri. Kana mumwe munhu angoti β€œkukundikana,” usamurega achizvitaura zvakare. Izvi zvichabvumira tsinhiro pfupi kurangwa zvikurukuru nemhaka yokuti dzine mukana muduku wokudzivisa dzokororo.

Imwe pfungwa inovimbisa ndeye benzi sefa, inova probabilistic spam sefa, asi yakadzidziswa pazvivakwa zveupenzi uye zvakajairika mhinduro.

Zvingave zvisingaite kuuraya zvakaipa kuti ubvise dambudziko.Maonero ari pasi peshinda refu haawanzoonekwa, saka kubatanidza kufembera kwemhando mugorogoroti yekuronga mhinduro zvakakwana.

[7] Chinoita kuti masabhubhu mazhinji asvibise kushaikwa kwenzvimbo yekufamba.

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Vashandisi vakanyoresa chete ndivo vanogona kutora chikamu muongororo. Nyorera mu, Munogamuchirwa.

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