{"id":54524,"date":"2019-12-28T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-12-27T21:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/blog\/blog_prohoster\/podvedeny-itogi-golosovaniya-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian"},"modified":"2020-02-18T14:02:32","modified_gmt":"2020-02-18T11:02:32","slug":"podvedeny-itogi-golosovaniya-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prohoster.info\/sq\/blog\/news\/podvedeny-itogi-golosovaniya-o-sistemah-initsializatsii-v-debian","title":{"rendered":"Jan\u00eb p\u00ebrmbledhur rezultatet e votimit p\u00ebr sistemet e inicializimit n\u00eb Debian","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/lists.debian.org\/debian-devel\/2019\/12\/msg00212.html\">Publikuar<\/a><\/noindex> rezultatet <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.debian.org\/vote\/2019\/vote_002\">votimit t\u00eb p\u00ebrgjithsh\u00ebm<\/a><\/noindex> (GR, p\u00ebrgjigjja e p\u00ebrgjithshme) e zhvilluesve t\u00eb projektit Debian, q\u00eb marrin pjes\u00eb n\u00eb mb\u00ebshtetje t\u00eb pakove dhe mir\u00ebmbajtjen e infrastruktur\u00ebs, q\u00eb u zhvillua p\u00ebr \u00e7\u00ebshtjen e mb\u00ebshtetjes s\u00eb disa sistemeve t\u00eb inicimit. Pika e dyt\u00eb (&#171;B&#187;) n\u00eb list\u00eb fitoi \u2014 systemd mbetet preferuar, por lejohet mb\u00ebshtetje p\u00ebr sisteme t\u00eb tjera inicimi. Votimi u zhvillua me metod\u00ebn <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/ru.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%81_%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B5#%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BF_%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B5\">Condorcet<\/a><\/noindex>, ku secili votues i rendit t\u00eb gjitha opsionet sipas preferenc\u00ebs s\u00eb tij, nd\u00ebrsa gjat\u00eb llogaritjes s\u00eb rezultatit merret parasysh sa votues preferojn\u00eb nj\u00eb opsion ndaj nj\u00eb tjetri.<\/p>\n<p>Opsioni fitues pranon se nj\u00ebsit\u00eb e sh\u00ebrbimit t\u00eb systemd jan\u00eb m\u00ebnyra e preferuar p\u00ebr konfigurimin e nisjes s\u00eb daemon-\u00ebve dhe sh\u00ebrbimeve, por lejon q\u00eb t\u00eb ekzistojn\u00eb mjedise ku zhvilluesit dhe p\u00ebrdoruesit mund t\u00eb krijojn\u00eb dhe t\u00eb p\u00ebrdorin sisteme alternative t\u00eb inicializimit dhe alternativa funksionale ndaj ve\u00e7orive t\u00eb systemd. Zhvilluesve t\u00eb zgjidhjeve alternative u duhet t\u00eb ken\u00eb n\u00eb dispozicion burime p\u00ebr kryerjen e pun\u00ebs s\u00eb tyre dhe p\u00ebr paketimin e paketave. Zgjidhjet alternative, si elogind, q\u00eb p\u00ebrdoren p\u00ebr organizimin e nisjes s\u00eb aplikacioneve t\u00eb lidhura me nd\u00ebrfaqe specifike p\u00ebr systemd, mbeten t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme p\u00ebr projektin. Mb\u00ebshtetja e nismave t\u00eb tilla k\u00ebrkon bashk\u00ebpunim n\u00eb fushat ku teknologjit\u00eb alternative n\u00eb zhvillim nd\u00ebrthuren me pjes\u00ebn tjet\u00ebr t\u00eb projektit; p\u00ebr shembull, \u00ebsht\u00eb e papranueshme t\u00eb vonohen rishikimet e patch-eve dhe zhvillimi i diskutimeve.<\/p>\n<p>N\u00eb paketa lejohet t\u00eb p\u00ebrfshihen si skedar\u00eb unit t\u00eb systemd, ashtu edhe skripte init p\u00ebr nisjen e sh\u00ebrbimeve. Paketat mund t\u00eb p\u00ebrdorin \u00e7do mund\u00ebsi t\u00eb systemd sipas d\u00ebshir\u00ebs s\u00eb mir\u00ebmbajt\u00ebsit t\u00eb paket\u00ebs, me kusht q\u00eb k\u00ebto mund\u00ebsi t\u00eb p\u00ebrputhen me k\u00ebrkesat e politikave t\u00eb Debian dhe t\u00eb mos varen nga ve\u00e7ori eksperimentale ose t\u00eb pamb\u00ebshtetura n\u00eb Debian nga paketa t\u00eb tjera. P\u00ebrve\u00e7 systemd, paketat mund t\u00eb p\u00ebrfshijn\u00eb gjithashtu mb\u00ebshtetje p\u00ebr sisteme alternative t\u00eb inicializimit dhe t\u00eb ofrojn\u00eb p\u00ebrb\u00ebr\u00ebs p\u00ebr z\u00ebvend\u00ebsimin e nd\u00ebrfaqeve specifike t\u00eb systemd. Vendimet p\u00ebr p\u00ebrfshirjen e patch-eve merren nga mir\u00ebmbajt\u00ebsit n\u00eb kuad\u00ebr t\u00eb procedurave standarde. Debian angazhohet t\u00eb bashk\u00ebpunoj\u00eb me shp\u00ebrndarjet derivative q\u00eb kan\u00eb zgjedhur sisteme t\u00eb tjera inicializimi, por ky bashk\u00ebpunim zhvillohet n\u00eb nivelin e mir\u00ebmbajt\u00ebsve, t\u00eb cil\u00ebve u takon t\u00eb vendosin se cilat mund\u00ebsi t\u00eb p\u00ebrgatitura nga shp\u00ebrndarje t\u00eb pal\u00ebve t\u00eb treta t\u00eb pranohen n\u00eb p\u00ebrb\u00ebrjen kryesore t\u00eb Debian dhe cilat t\u00eb mbeten n\u00eb shp\u00ebrndarjen derivative.<\/p>\n<p>Kujtojm\u00eb se n\u00eb vitin 2014 komiteti teknik  <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=39064\">miratoi<\/a><\/noindex> <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=38762\">kalimin<\/a><\/noindex> e shp\u00ebrndarjes si parazgjedhje n\u00eb systemd, por nuk <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=39224\">p\u00ebrcaktoi<\/a><\/noindex> nj\u00eb vendim n\u00eb lidhje me mb\u00ebshtetjen e disa sistemeve t\u00eb inicializimit (n\u00eb votim fitoi opsioni q\u00eb tregonte se komiteti nuk ishte i gatsh\u00ebm t\u00eb merrte nj\u00eb vendim p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje). Kryetari i komitetit u rekomandoi mir\u00ebmbajt\u00ebsve t\u00eb paketave t\u00eb ruanin mb\u00ebshtetjen p\u00ebr sysvinit si sistem alternativ inicializimi, por theksoi se nuk mund ta impononte k\u00ebt\u00eb q\u00ebndrim dhe se n\u00eb \u00e7do rast vendimi duhej t\u00eb merrej n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb t\u00eb pavarur. <\/p>\n<p>Pas k\u00ebsaj, nga disa zhvillues u nd\u00ebrmor <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=41088\">nj\u00eb p\u00ebrpjekje p\u00ebr t\u00eb zhvilluar<\/a><\/noindex> nj\u00eb votim t\u00eb p\u00ebrgjithsh\u00ebm, por votimi paraprak tregoi se nuk kishte nevoj\u00eb p\u00ebr marrjen e nj\u00eb vendimi lidhur me p\u00ebrdorimin e disa sistemeve t\u00eb inicializimit. Disa muaj m\u00eb par\u00eb, pas <noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=51517\">problemi<\/a><\/noindex> me p\u00ebrfshirjen e paket\u00ebs elogind (e nevojshme p\u00ebr funksionimin e GNOME pa systemd) n\u00eb deg\u00ebn testing p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb konfliktit me libsystemd, \u00e7\u00ebshtja u ngrit s\u00ebrish nga drejtuesi i projektit Debian, pasi zhvilluesit nuk arrit\u00ebn t\u00eb bien dakord dhe komunikimi i tyre u shnd\u00ebrrua n\u00eb p\u00ebrplasje dhe arriti n\u00eb ng\u00ebr\u00e7. <\/p>\n<p>Opsionet e shqyrtuara:<\/p>\n<li class=\"l\"> V\u00ebmendja kryesore p\u00ebrqendrohet te systemd. Ofrimi i mb\u00ebshtetjes p\u00ebr sisteme alternative inicializimi nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebrpar\u00ebsi, por mir\u00ebmbajt\u00ebsit mund t\u00eb p\u00ebrfshijn\u00eb opsionalisht n\u00eb paketa init-skripte p\u00ebr sisteme t\u00eb tilla.\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> systemd mbetet zgjedhja e preferuar, por lihet e hapur mund\u00ebsia p\u00ebr mir\u00ebmbajtjen edhe t\u00eb sistemeve alternative t\u00eb inicializimit. Teknologji si elogind, q\u00eb n\u00eb mjedise alternative mund\u00ebsojn\u00eb ekzekutimin e aplikacioneve t\u00eb lidhura me systemd, konsiderohen t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme. N\u00eb paketa lejohet p\u00ebrfshirja e skedar\u00ebve init p\u00ebr sisteme alternative.\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> Mb\u00ebshtetja p\u00ebr nj\u00eb larmi sistemesh inicializimi dhe mund\u00ebsia p\u00ebr t\u00eb nisur Debian me sisteme inicializimi t\u00eb ndryshme nga systemd.<br \/>\nP\u00ebr nisjen e sh\u00ebrbimeve, paketat detyrimisht duhet t\u00eb p\u00ebrfshijn\u00eb init-skripte; ofrimi vet\u00ebm i skedar\u00ebve unit t\u00eb systemd pa sysv init-skripte nuk lejohet.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> Mb\u00ebshtetje p\u00ebr sisteme q\u00eb nuk p\u00ebrdorin systemd, por pa b\u00ebr\u00eb ndryshime q\u00eb pengojn\u00eb zhvillimin. Zhvilluesit bien dakord t\u00eb mb\u00ebshtesin disa sisteme inicializimi n\u00eb t\u00eb ardhmen e parashikueshme, por nj\u00ebkoh\u00ebsisht e konsiderojn\u00eb t\u00eb nevojshme t\u00eb punojn\u00eb p\u00ebr p\u00ebrmir\u00ebsimin e mb\u00ebshtetjes p\u00ebr systemd. Zhvillimi dhe mir\u00ebmbajtja e zgjidhjeve specifike duhet t\u00eb trajtohen nga komunitetet e interesuara p\u00ebr k\u00ebto zgjidhje, por mir\u00ebmbajt\u00ebsit e tjer\u00eb duhet t\u00eb ndihmojn\u00eb n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb aktive dhe t\u00eb kontribuojn\u00eb n\u00eb zgjidhjen e problemeve kur kjo b\u00ebhet e nevojshme. N\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb ideale, paketat duhet t\u00eb funksionojn\u00eb me p\u00ebrdorimin e \u00e7do sistemi inicializimi; p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb mund t\u00eb ofrohen init-skripte tradicionale ose t\u00eb p\u00ebrdoren mekanizma t\u00eb tjer\u00eb q\u00eb lejojn\u00eb funksionimin pa systemd. Pamund\u00ebsia p\u00ebr t\u00eb funksionuar pa systemd konsiderohet gabim, por jo gabim q\u00eb bllokon l\u00ebshimin, me p\u00ebrjashtim t\u00eb rasteve kur ekziston nj\u00eb zgjidhje e gatshme p\u00ebr funksionim pa systemd, por refuzohet t\u00eb ruhet (p\u00ebr shembull, kur problemi shkaktohet nga heqja e nj\u00eb init-skripti t\u00eb ofruar m\u00eb par\u00eb).\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> Mb\u00ebshtetje p\u00ebr portabilitetin, pa b\u00ebr\u00eb ndryshime q\u00eb pengojn\u00eb zhvillimin. Debian vazhdon t\u00eb shihet si nj\u00eb hallk\u00eb lidh\u00ebse p\u00ebr integrimin e softuer\u00ebve t\u00eb ndrysh\u00ebm q\u00eb ofrojn\u00eb funksionalitet t\u00eb barasvlersh\u00ebm ose t\u00eb ngjash\u00ebm. Portabiliteti midis platformave harduerike dhe stack-eve softuerike konsiderohet nj\u00eb detyr\u00eb e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme, nd\u00ebrsa integrimi i teknologjive alternative \u00ebsht\u00eb i mir\u00ebpritur, edhe n\u00ebse qasjet e krijuesve t\u00eb tyre ndryshojn\u00eb nga mendimi i p\u00ebrgjithsh\u00ebm. Q\u00ebndrimi ndaj systemd dhe sistemeve t\u00eb tjera t\u00eb inicializimit p\u00ebrputhet plot\u00ebsisht me pik\u00ebn 4.\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> Kalimi i mb\u00ebshtetjes p\u00ebr disa sisteme inicializimi n\u00eb kategorin\u00eb e k\u00ebrkesave t\u00eb detyrueshme. Mund\u00ebsia p\u00ebr t\u00eb nisur Debian me sisteme inicializimi t\u00eb ndryshme nga systemd vazhdon t\u00eb ket\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsi p\u00ebr projektin. \u00c7do paket\u00eb duhet t\u00eb funksionoj\u00eb me menaxher\u00eb pid1 t\u00eb ndrysh\u00ebm nga systemd, p\u00ebrve\u00e7 rasteve kur softueri i p\u00ebrfshir\u00eb n\u00eb paket\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb krijuar q\u00eb n\u00eb fillim p\u00ebr t\u00eb punuar vet\u00ebm me systemd dhe nuk ofron mb\u00ebshtetje p\u00ebr nisje pa systemd (mungesa e skripteve init nuk konsiderohet si tregues q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb projektuar vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr systemd).\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> Mb\u00ebshtetje p\u00ebr portabilitetin dhe p\u00ebr disa implementime. Parimet e p\u00ebrgjithshme p\u00ebrputhen plot\u00ebsisht me pik\u00ebn 5, por n\u00eb lidhje me systemd dhe sistemet e inicializimit nuk p\u00ebrcaktohen k\u00ebrkesa konkrete dhe as nuk vendosen detyrime ndaj zhvilluesve. Zhvilluesit inkurajohen t\u00eb marrin parasysh interesat e nj\u00ebri-tjetrit, t\u00eb b\u00ebjn\u00eb kompromise dhe t\u00eb gjejn\u00eb zgjidhje t\u00eb p\u00ebrbashk\u00ebta t\u00eb pranueshme p\u00ebr pal\u00eb t\u00eb ndryshme.\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"l\"> Vazhdimi i diskutimit. Kjo pik\u00eb mund t\u00eb p\u00ebrdoret p\u00ebr t\u00eb ulur renditjen e varianteve t\u00eb papranueshme.\n<\/li>\n<p><noindex><a rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"link\"><\/a><\/noindex><\/p>\n<p>Burimi: <a \ncontent=\"nofollow\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.opennet.ru\/opennews\/art.shtml?num=52104\">opennet.ru<\/a><\/p>","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u041e\u043f\u0443\u0431\u043b\u0438\u043a\u043e\u0432\u0430\u043d\u044b \u0440\u0435\u0437\u0443\u043b\u044c\u0442\u0430\u0442\u044b \u043e\u0431\u0449\u0435\u0433\u043e \u0433\u043e\u043b\u043e\u0441\u043e\u0432\u0430\u043d\u0438\u044f (GR, general resolution) \u0440\u0430\u0437\u0440\u0430\u0431\u043e\u0442\u0447\u0438\u043a\u043e\u0432 \u043f\u0440\u043e\u0435\u043a\u0442\u0430 Debian, \u0443\u0447\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0432\u0443\u044e\u0449\u0438\u0445 \u0432 \u0441\u043e\u043f\u0440\u043e\u0432\u043e\u0436\u0434\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0438 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