Molweni bahlali!
NgoMeyi 18, a .
Eli nqaku libonelela ngombhalo ovela kwindawo: sixoxe ngezicwangciso zexesha elide zokuphuhliswa kwenethiwekhi ye-Medium, isidingo sokusebenzisa i-HTTPS yeeepsites xa usebenzisa i-Medium network, ukuthunyelwa kwenethiwekhi yoluntu ngaphakathi kwe-I2P network, kunye nokunye okuninzi. .
Zonke izinto ezinomdla kakhulu ziphantsi kokusikwa.
1) Oku kufunda ixesha elide.
I-2) Le ngxoxo evulekileyo: unokujoyina ingxoxo kwizimvo zeposi.
3) Amagama abathathi-nxaxheba ashunqulelwe ukugcina imfihlo kunye nokufundeka.
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M.P.: Namhlanje sifuna ukuphakamisa imiba ebalulekileyo malunga nombutho wothungelwano - izicwangciso zexesha elide kunye nokunye okunjalo. Ngoku, sele siyiqalile ingxubusho encinane, sijonge phambili, saza sazinzisa ingxaki yabaphikisayo. Abanye babenexhala lokugxekwa kakubi kwiinkcazo, besithi abantu ababi baya kuza babophe wonke umntu.
Ukuze abanye abaphembeleli bangene kwinkomfa baze baqalise ukucaphukisa, kufuneka senze into engekho mthethweni-kwaye ngokwezenzo zomthetho ezikhoyo, sihambisa amanqaku e-Wi-Fi - okokuqala, asikho amaqumrhu asemthethweni , okwesibini, senza. ayiboneleli kwi-Intanethi - kuphela i-I2P.
Kwi-ajenda, yeyiphi imibuzo ephakanyisiweyo: okokuqala, le yiYggdrasil, engasiniki uxolo imini okanye ubusuku, akunjalo?
Sh.: Icandelo lomthetho...
M.P.: Icandelo elisemthethweni lilo, ewe, ewe-ngoku umhlobo wam uza kubamba, siza kuxoxa ngayo. Okulandelayo - sikwafuna ukuxoxa ngenethiwekhi yoluntu - ifile kwaye iyaphila...
Sh.: Ngaba sinokuyinyusa iHumHub eYggdrasil?
M.P.: Enyanisweni ewe. Kodwa kutheni siyiphakamisa xa sinokusuka nje sivumele ufikelelo?
Sh.: Hayi kakubi.
M.P.: Oko kukuthi, umbuzo unzima kakhulu malunga nokuthutha - i-I2P iyacotha kwaye ingcamango yenethiwekhi kwinqanaba leprotocol ayithethi ukuba iya kukhawuleza kakhulu. Oku kulungile. Ukusuka kwimbono yomsebenzisi olula, oku, ngokuqinisekileyo, akukuhle.
NKSK.: Engaphezulu kwe. Ngokubanzi, ngendlela, umbuzo malunga namanqaku: masithi nje ukuba ii-nodes zingafakwa kwiindawo ezithile ezisebenza rhoqo - ngaba uyakwenza oko?
M.P.: Ewe, ngokubanzi, ewe: kwimeko yethu, "Medium" ngumboneleli onikezelweyo, apho umqhubi ngamnye onamaphuzu akhe yi-ISP yakhe, oko kukuthi umnikezeli.
NKSK.: Umboneleli wakho.
M.P.: Ikho: umnikezeli wakho. Oko kukuthi, ukuzimela, ukunikezelwa kunye nokulawula.
NKSK.: Kuthekani ngabo bangayi kuhlala kwi-intanethi rhoqo - ukungena nokuphuma? Enye indlela okanye enye, iindawo ezikufutshane ziya kudibaniswa zonke kwaye kukho into efana nentanga yoluntu.
M.P.: Hayi, ingongoma kukuba siphawula i-nodes njenge-semi-available, kwaye akukho nto iphosakeleyo ngaloo nto, enyanisweni: yinto nje yokuba ibhloko iya kuba phuzi endaweni eluhlaza.
NKSK.: Hayi, kakuhle, ngokwesantya - ayinguye wonke umntu oya kuba nexhala malunga noqhagamshelo olusisigxina.
M.P.: Enyanisweni ewe. Kodwa le ndlela iyingxaki kuba akunakwenzeka ukuqinisekisa ubunyani bawo onke amanqaku, ukuba baya kwenza okufanayo. Umntu unokwenza ngandlel’ ithile apho ngokwemithetho yakhe.
NKSK.: Oku kukodwa kwesixhobo...
M.P.: Oku kukodwa kuzo zonke iinethiwekhi ezinatyisiweyo ngokubanzi. Ngokusisiseko. Akunjalo malunga nezixhobo, kodwa malunga nabaqhubi - kakuhle, akazange athande into ethile, waya kuyivimba.
Ngenxa yokunyaniseka kwezi ngongoma, oko kukuthi, zonke ziqwalaselwe ngendlela efanayo, ukhuseleko lwabasebenzisi luxhomekeke. Akuyena wonke umntu onjalo ubuqili be-hacker oqonda ukuba kutheni ungeke ukwazi, umzekelo, ukufaka amagama ayimfihlo kwinethiwekhi ye-I2P ngaphandle kwe-HTTPS xa udibanisa nge "Medium"; oko kukuthi, ngokungagqibekanga luhlobo olukhuselekileyo, kodwa ukuba uhamba ngo "Medium", emva koko...
Sh.: Siza kubona amagama ayimfihlo!
M.P.: Ewe. Kufuneka kuthathwe amanyathelo okhuseleko anjalo.
Sh.: Ke ngoko, ngenxa yokhuseleko, nceda wenze amagama ayimfihlo amade, angacacanga!
M.P.: Kwaye, hayi, ingxaki kukuba oku akuzukukusindisa kwiqabane eliphambili - ndithetha ukuba sikholelwa ukuba indawo nganye "ePhakathi" ibekwe emngciphekweni ngokungagqibekanga kwaye iqabane elikhulu lihleli emva kwayo.
Awukwazi ukuya kwinethiwekhi ye-I2P ngaphandle kwe-HTTPS kuba yonke idatha ephakathi kwe-node yonxibelelwano, oko kukuthi, i-router, kunye nomrhumi, sele idluliselwe kwifom efihliweyo, oku kungakhuselekanga. Oko kukuthi, ukusuka kwesi sikhundla, naluphi na usetyenziso olunjalo kufuneka lucinezelwe.
NKSK. Kwakhona ngokuphathelele iingongoma ezingekhoyo ngqo ekhaya okanye elizweni; amanqaku anokuthi adityaniswe kumthombo othile wamandla kwaye abekwe kwindawo ethile yepaki, kuba, okwangoku, sifuna uhlobo oluthile lokugubungela nantoni na ...
Sh.: Ukubekwa ngokuzithandela-kunyanzelekileyo kunye nabahlobo kunye nezalamane.
NKSK.: Ngaba ukhe wazoba isicwangciso esirhabaxa ephepheni, sikhangeleka njani? Okanye ngaba yonke into isanda kuxoxwa ukuza kuthi ga ngoku?
M.P.: Ngokubanzi, kwithiyori, asizange sibe nombuzo onjalo wokuthatha iphepha kunye nokuzoba. Ukuzoba ntoni? Nathi, yonke into i-prosaic kwaye ivulekile kwaye iyaqondakala.
M.P.: Ewe, ngokuqhelekileyo, kuya kuba kuchanekile ukuthelekisa "oPhakathi" kwi-tumor enomdlavuza, oko kukuthi, ngelixa lincinci, lingabonakali kwaye alizange linikezele nakubani na. Xa zininzi, yintoni enokwenziwa?
NKSK.: Ngokuphathelele iinkxalabo kulawulo lonxibelelwano, sonke siyaqonda ukuba enye indlela okanye enye kukho abantu abafuna ukulawula yonke into.
M.P.: I-dissonance ilandelayo ivela: kwisimo esisembindini kukho uthungelwano olunatyisiweyo.
NKSK.: Kwaye kumbuzo wokuba i-Intanethi yakhuthazwa ngabantu babucala ekuqaleni, ngoko asinangxaki efanayo neyase China.
M.P.: Ewe, akufanele uthelekise neTshayina ngesizathu esinye: ipesenti yabantu abasaziyo isiNgesi incinci kakhulu. Kutheni befuna enye i-Intanethi? Abananto yakwenza noku konke konke.
Ndithethe nelinye iTshayina, yonke into ihamba kakuhle.
NKSK.: Hayi, kufuneka uqonde ukuba zeziphi iindawo abantu abakulungeleyo ukungena kuzo kwindawo engwevu...
M.P.: Ngandlela thile ukufumana imida yala maxesha angacacanga...
NKSK.: Ukuphelisa i-FSB kukucaphukisa ngokuthe ngqo, akufanele uyenze loo nto.
Ukuba, ngokuthe ngqo, ubeka i-router kwindawo ethile kwintsimi eya kusasaza into ethile, kulungile, kulungile.
Akukho mfuneko yokudala ukucaphukisa. Kuko konke.
M.P.: Ndivuma ngokupheleleyo malunga nokuxhokonxa.
Sh.: Ngoku izinto ezininzi ezifanayo ziye zanda.
M.P.: Oko kukuthi, isikhundla sethu kukugcina ukungathathi hlangothi, ukuzola ... Kwaye ungagqithisi imida, masithi. Kuko konke.
Asiyi kuququzelela nayiphi na iNGO - yonke into yenziwa ngokuzithandela. Ngokusisiseko, “Phakathi” ligama nje lenqaku. I-SSID Akukho nto yenziwa imali.
Ukuba urhulumente uqala ukoyikisa abasebenzisi, lo ngumbuzo wabasemagunyeni, hayi kubasebenzisi.
Sh.: Simangele kakhulu ukuba abasemagunyeni baya kuba nomdla.
NKSK.: Sisakhuphela kwimilambo, sibukele iifilim eziphangisiweyo, uthotho lweTV-ayinamsebenzi. Asimniki nto. Kwaye kamsinya nje xa umntu ecinga ukwenza inethiwekhi yoluntu ibekwe phantsi, ngequbuliso ukusuka kwindawo ethile abantu baqala ukuthetha ngengozi ngequbuliso.
M.P.: Iingozi zibaxiwe kakhulu.
NKSK.: Ngoko ke, andiyazi ukuba kucebiseka kangakanani ukuba nexhala ... Akukho mntu uya kuphula i-butt yabo ukuze afikelele umshicileli othile owenza nje into yokuzonwabisa.
M.P.: Ukuba asiyibhali inombolo yeflethi, ke kunjalo!
NKSK.: Hayi ngoba? Umbuzo ngulo - ngoba?
M.P.: Asiyi.
NKSK.: KwiVKontakte ngoku kukho inani elikhulu lamaqela anamandla. Umbuzo: Zingaphi kuzo ezivaliweyo ngosuku?
Sh.: Zonke ezi, kwakhona, ezona zihloko-zibaso ze-paranoia - ukuvalelwa entolongweni ukuphinda zithunyelwe-zenziwa ngokusekwe kwizigwebo.
M.P.: Kwaye azenziwanga ngokukhethayo - nje ngokungenamkhethe: hop! Kwaye kuphelele apho: ukuzalisekisa isicwangciso.
NKSK.: Ngubani ofanele ukuhlala kwiprojekthi encinci yokwabela amagunya ukuze kube nomdla kubantu abanxibe iyunifomu ababambelele kakhulu ekucingeni kwabo? Oku kunokuba nomdla kwezinye iingcali, kodwa zingaphi iiprojekthi ezifanayo ezisekhona?
M.P.: Ewe kunjalo, thatha iYggdrasil efanayo, Hyperboria...
Sh.: Asiyifaki ngokwenene iLinux.
NKSK.: Kwaye kwakhona: akukho mvuzo wokubanjwa kwabantu abanjalo abangenamsebenzi ngomsebenzi wabo. Oko kukuthi, baya kufumana ntoni kule nto?
M.P.: Ewe, kuthekani ukuba, umzekelo, sithatha ibali likaBogatov, isazi sezibalo?
NKSK.: Ibali kunye neBogatov libali xa umlingane, masithi, ewe: wabeka iqhina, ngaye umntu wasongela umntu ...
M.P.: Ewe, yonke into icacile apha - wathatha kuyo yonke le mingcipheko ...
NKSK.: Ewe. Okokuqala, wathatha umngcipheko, kwaye okwesibini, ndixolele, ngokwenene kwakukho into ephazamisayo apho. Kwakhona: ngubani apha kwaye ngoku ozokwenza into ngale network?
Ngoku abantu abaza kuza kuyo baya kuba nomdla ngokukodwa kule projekthi njengeprojekthi: kungekhona ukuze kuphunyezwe into ethile okanye kuthethathethwane nokunikezelwa kweziyobisi, bulala umntu...
Inqaku lelokuba ukuba ikhe ibaluleke emntwini, iya kwenzeka xa ubunzima obubalulekileyo buqokelelwe. Yaye asiyonyaniso ukuba iya kuqokelelana.
M.P.: Nokuba bekunomdla kwabezopolitiko abathi, masinyaniseke, abayiqondi ncam imigaqo yothungelwano lwehlabathi…
NKSK.: Owu, kwaye esi sisihloko esahluke ngokupheleleyo... Zithini izitshixo zofihlo? Izitshixo zoguqulelo oluntsonkothileyo zimalunga nokuthembana. Eli linqanaba labantu abathetha phandle ngesihloko sezitshixo zofihlo. Basondela kumntu owayefunda into kwipodium malunga nesidingo sezitshixo zokufihla - njengengcali - baya kuye baze babuze: zithini izitshixo ze-encryption? Uphendula ngelithi kufuneka sibuze kwiingcali, nangona ebonakala eyincutshe apho.
M.P.: Oko kukuthi, eyona nto ibalulekileyo kubo kukuba isiphelo sithethelela iindlela. Kodwa imizekelo emininzi inokunikwa apha: abanye abakwazi nokuphendula ukuba yintoni i-IP - Internet Protocol.
M.P.: Ngoku ndicebisa ukuba sithethe ngezothutho. Oko kukuthi, sine-I2P kwaye sineYggdrasil. Kukho ukhetho lokufakela iYggdrasil endaweni ye-I2P.
Sh.: Inketho ilungile.
M.P.: Amagqabantshintshi afunekayo. Ngoba? Kufuneka kubekho ingxoxo enyanzelisayo.
Sh.: I-Yggdrasil iya kukhawuleza.
M.P.: Kwaye siso isizathu kuphela? Kodwa ukuchonga abathathi-nxaxheba kulula kakhulu. Ewe kunjalo, kukho i-encryption apho, ngaphandle kwebhokisi - oku, kunjalo, kulungile, kodwa akufani ne-I2P.
Yintoni embi nge-I2P: iyacotha. Kodwa! Kuyo nayiphi na incwadi kwi-cryptography oyivulayo, baya kukuxelela kumaphepha okuqala - khetha: ngokukhawuleza okanye ngokukhuselekileyo. Ukusuka kwesi sikhundla, i-I2P iyaphumelela, ngaphandle kwamazwi abantu abathi: "Hayi, asiyi kuyisebenzisa le nto, akukho nto konke konke." Kaloku, kutheni kungenjalo? Ke, sikhulise iHumHub.
Oko kukuthi, apha kwakhona kufuneka sikhethe: sikhetha ntoni?I-Yggdrasil ilungile xa kukho amanqaku amaninzi kwaye i-traffic ayihambi kwi-Intanethi, kodwa phakathi kwamanqaku ngokwawo.
M.P.: Umqobo wethu sisantya okanye ukhuseleko. Sifuna ntoni? Kukho ingxaki apha, uyabona: umjelo wokudibanisa phakathi kombhalisi "ophakathi" kunye nenqaku le-I2P alikhuselekile. Oko kukuthi, sifuna izixhobo esizibonelelayo ukuba sele zine-HTTPS - oko kukuthi, ukhuseleko lomgangatho wezothutho. Ngenxa yokuba itrafikhi ikhutshiwe kwi-router ye-I2P yomqhubi we-telecom kwaye idluliselwe kwitshaneli engakhuselekanga kuthi.
Umbuzo yindlela yokukhusela abasebenzisi abanokubakho: isisombululo esilula kakhulu kukuphakamisa ipaki yemithombo - iforamu, ibhodi yemifanekiso, inethiwekhi yoluntu. inethiwekhi kwaye uzidibanise zonke kwi-HTTPS.
Sh.: Ungakwazi nokuqhagamshela nawuphi na umthunywa.
M.P.: Kwaye unokuthi, ewe, sele ucinge malunga nento enomthunywa oza kusebenza kwimowudi yokwaleka ngaphezulu kwe-I2P.
NKSK.: Kwimeko nayiphi na into, ukuba sithetha ngezithunywa ezikhawulezayo kuzo zonke, ziqulethe isicatshulwa ... Ngokwesantya, kuqhelekile.
M.P.: Ngokubanzi, kukho umbuzo onjalo - ndifuna ukuwuzisa ukuze kuxoxwe - kunokwenzeka ngexesha elinye "Ophakathi" ukuphakamisa kungekuphela nje ummeli wewebhu ocacileyo weenkonzo zewebhu, kodwa kunye nenye inkonzo yokutshintshiselana iifayile, yonke into loo moya.
Ndiyayibaxa ukuze undoqo ucace. Ukuze ibangele amanye amazibuko ekwabelwaneni ngefayile, kwaye amanye asebenzela iwebhu. Kwaye ncokola okanye umthunywa othile. Qalisa amanye amazibuko kumthunywa kwaye yonke into iya kulunga.
M.P.: Kufuneka sixoxe ngemithetho yokuziphatha kwi-intanethi. Ucoceko lwedijithali. Zisa abantu abaqhelekileyo ngokukhawuleza ukuba kutheni, umzekelo, awukwazi ukuthumela iiphasiwedi zakho nge "Medium" ukuba ufikelela kwisiza ngaphandle kweHTTPS.
NKSK.: Eyona nto iphambili kukuba abantu abangayiqondiyo into yokuba awukwazi ukuthumela amagama ayimfihlo, uthi, VK, awukwazi ukubathumela ngencoko kwaye kuphelele apho...
M.P.: Hayi, eneneni, bendithetha kancinci malunga nenye into: ndiyathetha, ayikokunika nabani na amagama ayimfihlo, hayi kwaphela: Ndithetha ngenye into. "Phakathi" imeko ichazwa ngokwahlukileyo kancinci: esi sisizathu kanye esenza ukuba kwiTor awukwazi, ngokuthetha nje, faka igama lokugqitha lakho kwiindawo ezingakhuselekanga.
Ngokuqhelekileyo, abasebenzisi abazi ukuba usebenzisa i-router yakho ye-I2P ngaphandle kokuxhuma kwi-Medium, ngoko akukho ngxaki - itrafikhi yakho ifihliwe, awudingi ukukhathazeka malunga nedatha yakho. Kodwa xa usebenzisa "Medium", kufuneka uqale ucinge ukuba le ngongoma sele ithotyiwe nguComrade Major. UComrade Majoro uhlala apho kwaye umamele yonke into omxelela yona.
Xa ufaka igama eligqithisiweyo lakho, kwenzeka ntoni: igama eliyimfihlo ligqithiselwa kwitshaneli engakhuselekanga ukusuka kuwe ukuya kwirutha ye-comrade enkulu, kwaye kuphela emva koko ingena kwinethiwekhi ye-I2P. UComrade Majoro unokumamela. Zonke ezinye iindawo zokuhlala - iindawo zokuhamba - musa. Nantso ke ingxaki.
Ndiyakwazi ukuchaza nje ngokufutshane ngomzekelo olula kakhulu, ngendlela ecacileyo, indlela i-asymmetric cryptography isebenza ngayo kwaye kutheni i-Medium ingaphezu kokulungeleka njengezothutho.
Ngoku, khawufane ucinge ukuba sineqabane elinye elivela eMoscow kunye neqabane laseOstreliya. Omnye wabo kufuneka athumele ipakethe enesigidi seedola eOstreliya. Akafuni ukwenza oku ngeSberbank, ekubeni ikhomishini iya kuba enkulu.
NKSK.: Yiyo loo nto eyithumela ngomthunywa.
M.P.: Ikho: yiyo lonto ethumela isuitcase ngqo nemali nge courier. Ndiyithathe ndifake iqhaga kwi suitcase. Masivumelane ukuba asinakuvula isitshixo.
Ityesi siyinika umthunywa. Umthunywa uphatha isutikheyisi kumhlobo wethu osuka eOstreliya. Umhlobo waseOstreliya udidekile: “Ndiza kuyivula njani ityesi? Andinaso isitshixo!"
Ndimcele ukuba abeke isikhiya sakhe kwi suitcase asibuyisele kum. I-courier ibhidekile, kodwa ibuyisela isutikheyisi. Ndikhulula iqhaga lam. Isitshixo somhlobo sihlala phezu kwesutikheyisi. Ndithumela ityesi eOstreliya. Iqabane likhulula iqhaga lakhe.
Ubuqili besandla kwaye akukho nkohliso.
NKSK.: Ewe, ngokubanzi, uhlengahlengiso kwindlela esizivalela ngayo kwabanye ngezitshixo kufuneka lulungelelane. Akunyanzelekanga ukuba abe nefashoni.
M.P.: Yiba nemida ethile.
NKSK.: Umngxuma omkhulu wokhuseleko uya kuhlala uhleli phambi kwemonitha, emva kwekhibhodi ... Kuze kube yilapho izinga labafana abahlala kwikhompyutheni liphakanyisiwe, asiyi kukwazi ukukhusela ngokupheleleyo ukusetyenziswa kwale nethiwekhi.
M.P.: Thina, eneneni, sidinga nje ukonyusa kancinci inani leendawo kwi-I2P ezixhasa i-HTTPS. Ndikhuthaza ukuba i-HTTPS kwi-I2P kukubonelela nje umaleko wezothutho wokhuseleko.
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